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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Given the way the choice is introduced, it's not clear to me that Ling Qi will still touch the magic tapestry if she convinces herself there is no need to touch it. I believe she probably will turn her back on it. And she must touch the tapestry.

I suppose I'm less uptight about the possibility of her using a genealogical connection to the Tsu as a third pillar (in addition to the patronage of the Cai and her own personal power) on which to base her House's legitimacy. It would help her establish warmer relations with the Houses that cherish that sort of connection to the past like the Meng and Luo. I don't think she's going to turn into another snooty noble just because she's willing to use this info to her advantage when it can help her or her House in the future. It's a potentially useful tool, not a part of her self-definition.
 
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[x] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
More than curiosity and politics I feel like this is about the claim to a legacy. We were inducted into Zeqing's family and we had her teaching our own. We're doing the same with our Emerald Seas heritage, making it our own and learning lessons from the past. That's what legacy is to us, the knowledge and wisdom of those that came before. Lineage or no Zeqing's is not the only legacy we've adopted and this gives legitimacy to one we've already been trying to claim.

[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
The vote only says it is useful. And it is. It is a bit far fetched to immediatly decude it means basing her house on bloodlines. It is just a useful fact, to silence people resenting her for being commoner, to use in diplomacy, or plenty of other uses. It doesn't mean we immediatly reject all our previous choices, and base our clan or personality on our bloodline. Really, it doesn't even neccessarily means we will use this lineage claim. Just that it can be a useful tool to have.
 
[x] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by EternalObserver on Dec 13, 2020 at 10:28 AM, finished with 330 posts and 151 votes.
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[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.

/jk now watch as we learn papa Ling is actually young!Tsu from before his rise when he was caught in time shenanigans :V
 
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[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.

Cultivating curiosity!
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.

touchhh ittt
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
Reminder that multiple votes are valid and everyone who picks one or the other while actually wanting what my write-in says can do both :3
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The name "Ling" means "zero", but just because you're starting from zero doesn't mean it won't be fun to find out what the negative numbers were! Also, it's literally inconceivable to look at a "poke me and find out a thing" talisman and NOT poke it, damn it.
[X] There was no need for it. The character for Ling meant 'Zero' and that is what she had started as. If there were any lineage she would claim, it was her teachers, claimed through her own effort.


Blademaster said:
The vote only says it is useful. And it is. It is a bit far fetched to immediatly decude it means basing her house on bloodlines. It is just a useful fact, to silence people resenting her for being commoner, to use in diplomacy, or plenty of other uses. It doesn't mean we immediatly reject all our previous choices, and base our clan or personality on our bloodline. Really, it doesn't even neccessarily means we will use this lineage claim. Just that it can be a useful tool to have.
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Its not about how we act, its about how we tell other people it is okay to act. If we use Weilu ancestry for our clan's legitimacy and Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui don't share it then we are telling the world that Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui do not have the full protection of being in the Ling clan. That's not true, Ling Qi would shiv anyone that hurts them consequences be damned, but it would definitely be the implication.

I would prefer to avoid such implications both to avoid misunderstandings with asshole nobles and out of respect for our family.
 
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JohnnieBoy123 said:
Its not about how we act, its about how we tell other people it is okay to act. If we use Weilu ancestry for our clan's legitimacy and Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui don't share it then we are telling the world that Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui do not have the full protection of being in the Ling clan. That's not true, Ling Qi would shiv anyone that hurts them consequences be damned, but it would definitely be the implication.
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Can you please stop this ridiculous fearmongering? By your own logic, choosing "If there were any lineage she would claim, it was her teachers, claimed through her own effort" would imply that Biyu/Mum/Zhengui don't have the full protection of being in the Ling clan because they don't share our teachers.
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
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Can you please stop this ridiculous fearmongering? By your own logic, choosing "If there were any lineage she would claim, it was her teachers, claimed through her own effort" would imply that Biyu/Mum/Zhengui don't have the full protection of being in the Ling clan because they don't share our teachers.
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What ridiculous fearmongering? That nobility might misinterpret our relationship with our family? Oh no. The horror. They might do something in the future that has happened a bunch of times in the story so far. Next you'll tell me that its absurd to say that Ling Qi might get hurt if she gets into a fight. Or that she might get wet if she goes swimming. I can just see it now "How dare you say that she'll get crippled!" and "How dare you say she's going to drown!"

It's not that big a deal.

I know you probably don't care but we actually share that sort of lineage with all of them. Biyu and we were both taught by Qingge and we've taught Zhengui a lot (even leaving aside the elder lessons we took together), with all those relationships persisting because they were "claimed through (LQ's) own effort". This would also include Meizhen, Li Suyin, and arguably Su Ling (though she's more distant).
 
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JohnnieBoy123 said:
What ridiculous fearmongering? That nobility might misinterpret our relationship with our family? Oh no. The horror. They might do something in the future that has happened a bunch of times in the story so far. Next you'll tell me that its absurd to say that Ling Qi might get hurt if she gets into a fight. Or that she might get wet if she goes swimming. I can just see it now "How dare you say that she'll get crippled!" and "How dare you say she's going to drown!"

It's not that big a deal.
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The hell? Do the nobles have the psychic ability to see what's going on right now, inside of a storage ring? Does the vote say "Blab the results to the universe immediately? Is Ling Qi on Noble Outdated Broadcasting Live Entertainment being seen by millions of viewers in Xiangmen?
 
[x] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
JohnnieBoy123 said:
Its not about how we act, its about how we tell other people it is okay to act. If we use Weilu ancestry for our clan's legitimacy and Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui don't share it then we are telling the world that Biyu/Hanyi/Zhengui do not have the full protection of being in the Ling clan. That's not true, Ling Qi would shiv anyone that hurts them consequences be damned, but it would definitely be the implication.

I would prefer to avoid such implications both to avoid misunderstandings with asshole nobles and out of respect for our family.
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Nowhere in the vote does it imply that the connection(IF IT EXISTS) will be what LQ uses to establish her clan's legitimacy. It just says it will be useful to have this connection that's all. How do you go from something being useful to "IT'S GOING TO BE THE FOUNDATION OF LING CLAN" is something I don't understand.
 
ParticipantAward said:
The hell? Do the nobles have the psychic ability to see what's going on right now, inside of a storage ring? Does the vote say "Blab the results to the universe immediately? Is Ling Qi on Noble Outdated Broadcasting Live Entertainment being seen by millions of viewers in Xiangmen?
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LQ: "Hey everyone! I found some Weilu genealogies, turns out I'm descended from this person."
CRX: "How? What? Goddammit, you were supposed to stay out of trouble."
LQ: "Gan Guangli, you want to find out if you are too? Just touch the tapestry and it will show your Weilu ancestor, if any."

Yes, truly an unlikely turn of events. Bordering on the impossible, really.
 
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[X] It can't hurt to try. The name "Ling" means "zero", but just because you're starting from zero doesn't mean it won't be fun to find out what the negative numbers were! Also, it's literally inconceivable to look at a "poke me and find out a thing" talisman and NOT poke it, damn it.
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.
 
[X] It can't hurt to try. The Weilu are ancient after all, surely most everyone had a drop or two of their blood in them. Imagine how useful it would be, to claim some ancient connection.

I hope we either cause the tapestry to spit out an error message or find out we are related to the Weilu that got married to the ice witches.
 
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