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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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Much as I like research progress, Master Runes are just plainly worth more. Every Master Rune a runesmith knows increases their knowledge of runecrafting itself. I can't vote for a plan that skips out on learning Master Runes. (Plus, it's pretty clear that unlike Master Yorri, the Brotherhood just don't specialize in general research like Snorri and Yorri do. 2 points for just 1 action's of progress is a horrid exchange rate, while 4 points for a Master Rune is, conversely, selling them cheap.)

[X] Plan Voidstones for Voidstone, Adamant for Adamant
[X] Plan just the runes, please
[X] Plan Void and Adamant Research
 
I mean you pretty much seemed to ignore the suggestions that used examples like the Super Gronti made using the heart that can either protect Snorri or Snorri can ride around in and control like a 40K Titan and other people can use when he isn't in battle. Or the super healing banner that also used the heart that would likely accomplish the same thing as the armor you are suggesting when stacked with a T4 Adamant armor using T4 mats.

Also the argument that the Greedy heart can help with preventing exhaustion is just, no offense, a really bad one. Besides suggesting that Snorri literally does runesmith work in literal armor made for combat you are suggesting to use a literally one of a kind material for such a minor thing as exhaustion. Not only has it not really been that big an issue but we literally can deal with it without using a one of a kind material when we can just use T4 mats and create something specifically to deal with that issue.

I'm with you on this, a piloted adamant gronti would be absolutely amazing, and it seems to be something that the Mind of Things research could lead to.

A sapient golem would also be equally amazing in its own way.
 
MORA QUESTIONS!
1. First what did kill Durin?
2. Could we offer rare bits to the fellas for points? Elder Dragon Blood, Shaggoth Corpses, that sorta thing?
Am personally heavily against the idea. T4 Mats are really hard to get and we are going to be using them in things like the Sky Kings armor. Not to mention we now have very few of them due to people voting to destroy nearly all of our Dragon Ogre mats. Besides that pretty sure that Soulcake vetoed such things to avoid things like the Deus Ex trade min max affairs where people would constantly try to get as much as possible from trade deals.
 
Am personally heavily against the idea. T4 Mats are really hard to get and we are going to be using them in things like the Sky Kings armor. Not to mention we now have very few of them due to people voting to destroy nearly all of our Dragon Ogre mats. Besides that pretty sure that Soulcake vetoed such things to avoid things like the Deus Ex trade min max affairs where people would constantly try to get as much as possible from trade deals.
Probably, but I do want to breach the possibility.

I'm mostly interested because if they're not interested in the elder dragon blood that means we're having a much bigger impact than I expected.
 
"I've heard a few tales, many say you slew it personally," she replies.

You blink in surprise, the story had spread that far south? Surprising, but also pleasant to hear if you're honest.

"Mmm, then the Skalds have gotten a bit too enthusiastic. I may have pushed it off that cliff, but I would not have survived if the Throng had not held back his horde. More than ever the dwarfs of the North will need to be able to rely on and work with each other. Perhaps more than we have ever had to before.
That was a clever transition. Not denying that, as she said, he personally slew the Greedy One, but focusing on how it ties into his next point.
 
Master Rune of Infernos [Armour](More potent, but unshareable Pyrestrike), Cost 4 points
Master Rune of Blizzards [Armour](More potent, but unshareable Hailmantle), Cost 4 points
Master Rune of the Tireless [Armour](Bearer is Tireless and Minor Regen), Cost: 4 points
Master Rune of Unyielding [Armour](Bearer has Regeneration, Tireless and Steelskin), Cost: 6 points
Rune of the Tireless/ Strollaz's Rune (Increases endurance of formation), Cost: 2 points
You know when you think about it, these particular Runes are suspicious. Blizzard and Infernos just so happen to be a more powerful if limited version of combos we've already discovered?

Tireless, MTireless and Unyielding being so similar?

It's all about comprehension. I'll bet MTireless is the result of a combo turned Master Rune with Tireless as one of them, and Unyielding a combo with MTireless as one of them.

Meanwhile we can be given Infernos and Blizzard because we've already finished the internal structure of them in the combos, while they possess the knowledge to give us the others without requiring the components (MTireless and Tireless) because they know them well enough to get it across.
 
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You know when you think about it, these particular Runes are suspicious. Blizzard and Infernos just so happen to be a more powerful if limited version of combos we've already discovered?

Tireless, MTireless and Unyielding being so similar?

It's all about comprehension. I'll bet MTireless is the result of a combo turned Master Rune with Tireless as one of them, and Unyielding a combo with MTireless as one of them.

Meanwhile we can be given Infernos and Blizzard because we've already finished the internal structure of them in the combos.

Yeah, I think we're possibly being dropped another hint like we were given about the adamant.
 
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And I'd be willing to bet there's something to be gained or learned from the building blocks in the latter three and not just the finalized product.

Probably. I also suspect that it's much easier to make a new Master Rune from three normal runes than from one including a master rune already, although we do see what looks like a precedent for this in what we're shown. As you mention, Unyielding does look a lot like Master Rune of Tireless plus the Rune of Steel plus something else.

The best places to start may well be trying to make Master Runes of Conversion and Hearthward. Particularly as we have the Holdwarder title now (or soon).
 
Rune of Tireless: The last rune we teach our apprentices.


Probably. I also suspect that it's much easier to make a new Master Rune from three normal runes than from one including a master rune already, although we do see what looks like a precedent for this in what we're shown. As you mention, Unyielding does look a lot like Master Rune of Tireless plus the Rune of Steel plus something else.

Fortitude, maybe?
 
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