On Thread Etiquette:
I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.
Less Rough Guideline of Grudge Rankings:
0 (Grumbling) Fools who have wronged us and refuse to pay recompense.
1 (Snide Remarks) Idiots that have knowingly harmed us in even minor fashion.
2 (Angry Shouts) Killers of innocent dwarfs.
3 (Indignant Yelling) Foes that have dealt a terrible loss to a dwarf community.
4 (Furious Rage) Individuals who have dealt a terrible loss to the Karaz Ankor. Grimgor Ironhide, Skarsnik, Queek Headtaker, Git Guzzler in general.
5 (Bellowing Hatred) the normal cap. A foe of all dwarfkind or a personal enemy who's wronged a dwarf so heinously that they'd eternally hunt them until one of them dies if they could. Bugman's personal Grudge against Git Guzzler, Kazador's Grudge against Gorfang. Elves in canon.
6 (Cold Silence) no peace, no mercy for those that offer none. A Grudge so ingrained that no amount of vengeance can truly sate it barring the absolute annihilation of the foe and anything related to them. If Grudges are a weight on a dwarf's back, this is effectively gravity. Something that will never truly disappear barring truly unlikely and mayhaps even impossible circumstances. Chaos, Skaven,URKS, Grobi.
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- Rank 2 Grudge(Angry Shouts): Trolls of the Northern Pass. For a grievous and unprovoked assault at a peaceful dwarf caravan, leading to the damage of property, the maiming of many a dwarf and the loss of 80 Dawi lives. The only payment shall be death.Actions toward settling this grudge gain +1 action worth of progress. +10 Bonus to rolls against Trolls. AVENGED TURN 3.
- Rank 4 Grudge(Furious Rage): Kholek Suneater. For the slaughter of an uncountable number of dwarfs, the destruction of a dozen minor dwarf holds, the personal sullying of thirty clan homes, and hand in eighty more, the pilfering of their wealth and the invasion of the Underway. The only recourse shall be death.Actions toward settling this grudge gain +1 action worth of progress. +5 to bonus on Man the Walls and Man the Tunnels rolls. +15 Bonus to rolls against Dragon Ogres. AVENGED TURN 19.
- Rank 2 Grudge(Angry Shouts): Haruzrildrakk. For the death of five percent of the Throng of Kraka Drakk, the illegal delving and mining of Dwarf property without permit and the assault upon the persons and works of Runelords Snorri Klausson, Lorna Hammerfall, Dwalin Thunderlung, Brynna Gilded-eyes, Bara Stoneplate and King Otrek Ironarm. The only payment shall be death.AVENGED JUST AS IT WAS STRUCK TURN 24.
- Rank 2 Grudge(Angry Shouts): The spawn of Haruzrildrakk. For the Injury of the prince and heir of Otrek Ironarm, the deaths of twenty Stout Huskarls, the decimation of the accompanying party of dwarfs and destruction of Dwarfen property. The only payment shall be death.Actions toward settling this grudge gain +1 action worth of progress. Prince Gloin Ironarm has sworn vengeance. +5 Bonus to rolls against this Dragon.AVENGED TURN 28.
- Rank 4Grudge(Furious Rage):Hogrimm Ironhand: For the continued magical assault upon the Throng, the indirect aid in the injury and death of many dwarf lives, the desecration of the hold of Karag Dum, the corruption of her inhabitants, and Betrayal on a level thought impossible, the only recompense shall be death.+25 Bonus to Breaching Roll. AVENGED TURN 31.
- Rank 3Grudge(Indignant Yelling):Hogrur: For the death of eighty-three Dwarfs, the Injury of a further one hundred and fifty-four, the crippling of Thanes Gorlbag of Clan Gorltrommal and Thane Algrim Emeraldeyes of Clan Bronzebrow, for aiding the enemies of the Dwarfs in the destruction of Karag Dum, BAH, and serving a prophet of the perfidious Hashut. The only payment is death. +15 Bonus to Rolls against Beastmen. AVENGED TURN 31.
- Rank 3 Grudge: The perfidious and muck-dwelling Fimir! For the loss of innocent Dwarf lives, the deaths of the venerable Elders and Hearthwardens Throggi Ironheart of Clan Ironarm and Barruk Gildedbeard of Clan Bronzefist, the corralling of the Beastmen into Dwarfen lands for nefarious purposes yet unknown. The only payment shall be death! Actions toward setting this Grudge have a chance to gain +1 action worth of progress. +10 Bonus to rolls against the Fimir.
- Rank 3 Grudge: The Shadow Hag, for the personal slaughter of eighty-seven Dawi and orchestrating the deaths of 3,534 Dawi as well as a sum total of 324,982 Gold and 245 Brass pieces in damage both material and emotional to the towns of Khazid-Vran, Durak's Claim, Mingol Ril, Migdhal S...
…and harm to the Holds of Kraka Krum and Kraka Grom, the sentence shall be death. Actions toward setting this Grudge have a chance to gain +1 action worth of progress. +5 Bonus to rolls against the Fimir and +10 Bonus to Rolls against the Shadow Hag. AVENGED TURN 58
[X] Plan: Continuing the Weirdness
We aren't expected to do anything of note, so we are free to do something crazy with our esoteric rune lore, and we have the social capital to actually do something
