[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
While i originally was thinking of the other option, the early discussion started to turn me towards this one instead, the discussion that has followed since my last post has just solidified my opinion.
More social, more waried training, more potential friends for Precious, i mean it's not terrible if the other option wins, but this is the one i prefer.
While i originally was thinking of the other option, the early discussion started to turn me towards this one instead, the discussion that has followed since my last post has just solidified my opinion.
More social, more waried training, more potential friends for Precious, i mean it's not terrible if the other option wins, but this is the one i prefer.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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[X] Try to arrange weekly training sessions for the next month with just Zhengui, Wang Chao and yourself. (More focused training, higher but more narrow skill bonuses, Zhengui gets better martial training.)
Well as we see here concerns about Wang Chao's pride may be overblown.
Though Ling Qi is still super annoying to fight and such a spar may be a poor introduction, win or lose,Wang Chao isn't that weak.
On Zhengui's part, he's fairly enthusiastic about the idea of getting to strut his stuff in front of an audience,
Zhengui has good social skills.
Usually he tends to offend people with his blunt descriptions
And heres one of the issues: Ling Qi is a bit of a helicopter parent, Zhengui feels like he can't prove his strength, either she's there and being overprotective, or she's not and well...he feels lonely.
Being present without fighting his fights for him is hard.
The line between neglectful and smothering is thin.
Ling Qi's battles are quite uniquely frustrating to watch. It just whites out and then everyone's keeled over unless you have more powerful perception arts to penetrate it.
Almost certainly yes, considering how many of the founding Imperial clans are strongly spiritblooded.
Expect the Celestial Peaks types to give you snooty looks though.
So...I'd guess Ling Qi expected more intrigue or hidden motives out of any and all nobles?
Wouldn't surprise me if she did, since her introduction to noble etiquette is Meizhen.
Pretty hard to decipher whats going on...is Ling Qi really bad at reading the signs or is he more of scaroused?
Avalanche indeed. Stacking Earth momentum seems his main strategy, which would seem to react poorly with Ling Qi and Zhengui's attritional strategies, since while they're more tired, when they hit they'd probably blow through the attritional roadblocks without something more solid of an advantage
Feudal loyalty?
Sworn brotherhood?
Hmm...if I'm reading this right, he broke Paradise Rampart by striking UNDER it, its a plant, so if you damage the roots or remove the soil that supports it, it can't sustain the regrowth with nothing to draw upon, and thats a technique concept counter(like denying Liling blood) rather than a dispel
Things not being said: "Oh my god, if he's this powerful without a supporting cultivation art what would he look like with one?!"
I'm sure he'd handle charming Wang better, but he probably wouldn't find it an opportunity to grow.
...ring a ling?
Zhengui is hype.
He wants more stuff like this
...come to think of it Ling Qi's spars tend to be a bit extreme without the Golden Fields group. Both Renxiang and Meizhen are on the overwhelming crushing force side, and the 'spars' with weaker cultivators is mostly Ling Qi standing there watching them go donk on her defenses.
Side moment to comment on the fight being pretty awesome to visualize.
That'd probably make a great piece of art.
...its a Steve Irwin cultivation art?
Like an Avalanche indeed. Once he got momentum he's pretty inexorable.
Looks like a Mountain technique more than Earth now that I think of it.
Ling Qi, remember you hunted Green beasts as a Yellow without a lick of danger.
That Zhengui is doing as well as he is says much more about how powerful Zhengui is than anything else.
Is that a melee Meteor technique?
I hope Zhengui picks up that trick. Self Yeeting Turtle!
And...yeah, that is an answer to her Heart Demon.
Ling Qi needs more exposure to other points of view.
Some answers need to come from an external perspective.
Now, Wang Chao didn't really put his back into the technique, but that looks like the finishing move of one of his intermediate arts at least. And Zhengui is still standing, if embedded into the ground.
Our boi is Tonk.
Also I shudder to see ANYTHING that could provoke the kamikaze blast. Anyone getting to that point is likely to be pretty low on Qi and doing enough damage to KO Zhengui is vastly easier in melee than anything else.
When he first explodes whoever takes him out is going to need some kind of surprise negating low qi cost perfect defense.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
What Spirit beasts need most for growth is new insights and perspectives, and the same goes for Green cultivators. Raw combat ability is important, but not for cultivation. New ideas, new experiences, bypassing the limitations on your way of thought using insights from other trees.
That is, after all, how you get around a philosophical catch which you couldn't do on your own. No matter how much you self reflect, if you had the solution within you, you wouldn't have the problem to begin with.
To elaborate, it was this bit that made me think of Qingge:
She kiiinda implied that Zhengui inadequately held his own against a cultivator 2 stages his senior, and that helping him get up to her standards would be some key Nd of sacrifice on her part. It made her company go "Wait, what?"
It reminded me of Qingge complaining about Qi's height, normal kid temperament, complexion, or unruly hair(anyone who has taken care of small kids with long-ish hair knows that taking care of it falls on the adult's shoulders) when she was a kid. Things she couldn't really help and that were often unreasonable standards Qingge herself was imposing. She had sympathetic reasons but it was pretty not great.
The situations aren't exactly the same. For one, Ling Qi is doing a much better job of encouraging the guy to his face. But there are similarities.
TimEd
Meteor maker
I dont think this was a thing?
Qingge kept disparaging Ling Qi's appearance in front of her customers to make her customers dismiss her. And Ling Qi's height made it seem like she was older than she was, which again draws the eye of Qingge's customers. And I dont remember anything mentioned about Ling Qi's jid temperament, but it may just be that a 'bright young child' again draws the eye since Ling Qi didnt know enough to hide.
Qingge has been shown to be a single mother whose just dealing with things as best that she is able. Heck, I think the only "true" hurt she caused (aside from things due to her profession) Ling Qi was after a particularly brutal customer beat Qingge up so she was a bit short with Ling Qi (though this was from FoD, so it might have been changed or something).
These were from FoD, so I might be misremembering things though. I think this was from that mirror challenge. And further introspection showed that these were just due to her childhood perspective (mostly).
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Nah, as far as I can recall, we only know of one instance Ling Qi had any awareness of customers eyeing her, and that was the night before she ran away. Also, there's two instances of Qingge getting roughed up(though it definitely happened more than that), iirc: one was the incident where a Red guardsman knocked out a younger working girl's teeth and she fared a bit better, the other is the customer who was leering at Ling Qi, which yeah lead to Qingge being short with the girl and acting as the nail in the coffin that inspired running away. I believe at one point Ling Qi mused about how a rich mortal merchant was able to get away without consequences, but a cultivator wasn't.
Ling Qingge wanted a better life for Ling Qi. The way she was raised, that meant being a proper lady and marrying well. The problem is Ling Qi doesn't fit the (Celestial Peaks) standard of what that looks like. There have been a number of mentions of how Ling Qingge was critical of Ling Qi's appearance. The criticism came from a place of genuine anxiety on Qingge's part, who really really wanted a better lfie for Ling Qi, but who was operating from a narrow context and also was a young parent. She knew her own social status meant the chances were stacked against finding Ling Qi a good match, so she was twice as worried over anything else she saw as a barrier. And since Imperial culture is a bit shit, that meant her looks.
The "kid temperament" was things like Ling Qi not liking being dressed up, or not focusing on lessons with tutors. Which would have been super hard for Qingge to afford in the first place, holy heck. One of the bigger pieces of evidence Qingge was trying to raise Ling Qi to have good marriage prospects.
Qingge absolutely was a single mother who was dealing with things as best she was able. She deserves our sympathy. She also deserves our respect for copping to her mistakes not too long ago. Here:
zamin
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[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
Wow, finally caught up through both threads. That was only about 5,000 pages of great discussion and math... lots of math.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
This seems like the best balance of what we're trying to accomplish here.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
This seems like the best balance of what we're trying to accomplish here.
TimEd
Meteor maker
I can sort of see the logic to their experience being similar, but its still different enough I thing. Another way to see it is that Ling Qi is emulating more of Zeqing than she realizes, and is suffering somewhat similar decision.
Lets just hope that the ending isnt as explosive as Zeqing. Or if it is explosive, then it explodes to someone else's direction.
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Presumably because people think the circumstances have now changed. We made a good first impression, now is time for the follow-up. He's less likely to take things badly now after a good first step, so something rude by vague implication is probably going to have him either ask to clarify, or assume no ulterior motive beyond the obvious.
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Also we will not be coming out of the blue, we are not trying to arrange a regular(ish) meeting with him, and other people he knows, to train our precious boy he has now met and has a good impression of.
First impressions matter, we made a decent one here, now we can start building a social link, instead of coming out of nowhere potentially causing problems for him.
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Also when we read from Qingge's perspective, we saw her reflections of the mistakes she made when raising a young LQ. The fact LQ looks like her dad led to Qingge being shorter with her a lot of the time. It brought up associations Qingge had with the man who romanced her and then disappeared immediately after getting what he wanted. Note that I'm not criticizing Qingge here, ofc she deserves our respect for all of the things she's survived.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Yeah, and Ling Qi has a ridiculous sort of patience regarding her spirits.
She wants to give her Spirit Family all the time that they require (by themselves) to progress at their pace while pushing herself to unreasonable standards. And she wants to reconcile the two so her rush to the top also includes her conpanions beside her.
She wants to give her Spirit Family all the time that they require (by themselves) to progress at their pace while pushing herself to unreasonable standards. And she wants to reconcile the two so her rush to the top also includes her conpanions beside her.
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Welcome to the thread, and the Forum in general, enjoy your stay!Wow, finally caught up through both threads. That was only about 5,000 pages of great discussion and math... lots of math.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
This seems like the best balance of what we're trying to accomplish here.
... And, y'know, we've seen that he likes having his friends around, while trying to get him where Ling Qi + Zhengui outnumber him is kinda a social power-play in its own right.
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[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
