[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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Ok, so useful things from discord.
To give some background context to the first: last night we were talking about CDE+ etc., and I made the argument that, while they're great and cool arts, in many ways I'd prefer to not cultivate them and go and find a new perception art. The problem is that CDE, long term, doesn't integrate with Ling Qi's whole bard music-centric build really. Having eyes everywhere is adding another element that isn't really connected. I maintain, as I have argued before, that what we really want there is music/listening-based perception that would tie into Ling Qi really well and develop appropriate advanced skills etc. In that light, training CDE+ is just falling into sunk-cost fallacies and rather than continue to push ourselves down the "wrong" path, it would be better to cut our losses there and go and find a more appropriate art. Or at least that's my view.
Anyway, @naths asked @yrsillar just now if it would be possible to take our current perception arts and stick in the music keyword before making successors, and if doing so could make them evolve into something like listening arts - and yrsillar has said that that might be doable. So that's cool! Train CDE+ now, and then look at modifying it later when we make our own successors.
Secondly, I asked if my idea of modifying TRF to make a qi regen/resist focused successor was plausible - and he said that it might be stretching things a bit, but also might be possible (given we have SES to draw from). So that's also cool.
Overall then, we have some cool long term development options to think about, and some slightly better ideas about the potential scope for art development.
To give some background context to the first: last night we were talking about CDE+ etc., and I made the argument that, while they're great and cool arts, in many ways I'd prefer to not cultivate them and go and find a new perception art. The problem is that CDE, long term, doesn't integrate with Ling Qi's whole bard music-centric build really. Having eyes everywhere is adding another element that isn't really connected. I maintain, as I have argued before, that what we really want there is music/listening-based perception that would tie into Ling Qi really well and develop appropriate advanced skills etc. In that light, training CDE+ is just falling into sunk-cost fallacies and rather than continue to push ourselves down the "wrong" path, it would be better to cut our losses there and go and find a more appropriate art. Or at least that's my view.
Anyway, @naths asked @yrsillar just now if it would be possible to take our current perception arts and stick in the music keyword before making successors, and if doing so could make them evolve into something like listening arts - and yrsillar has said that that might be doable. So that's cool! Train CDE+ now, and then look at modifying it later when we make our own successors.
Secondly, I asked if my idea of modifying TRF to make a qi regen/resist focused successor was plausible - and he said that it might be stretching things a bit, but also might be possible (given we have SES to draw from). So that's also cool.
Overall then, we have some cool long term development options to think about, and some slightly better ideas about the potential scope for art development.
- Location
- UK
Did our combat style cause Meizhen to get an interest in an area denial technique of her own? For being related to an art which causes it to rain poison eventually forming a poison lake I am getting astonishingly fuzzy feelings from this.
And we were already mostly the cause of her Earth arts too!
Combining both our hungry mists and Meizhen's venemous rain is gonna be wonderful when we get around to team combat. The chilling wind and suppressing terror are gonna be the icing on the cake really. (heh, icing)
Villain Team go!
[X] Focus on your needlework and watch your friend and liege, you've never actually seen much of their interactions, and you aren't sure you want to blunder into another difficult conversation.
Disregard books, acquire threads. It's in the name of the quest, so it's clearly very important. If we don't vote for this, we'll cripple every narrative possible forever and doom all the babies Ling Qi is responsible for to boringness. True facts.
Also Ling Qi can't even dodge auto-hit field effects yet. What a scrub.
Disregard books, acquire threads. It's in the name of the quest, so it's clearly very important. If we don't vote for this, we'll cripple every narrative possible forever and doom all the babies Ling Qi is responsible for to boringness. True facts.
Note Meizhen's apparent abstention of counter art use during the match. If she had, our mists would have invited reprisal, for example, making them worse than useless. Putting aside her most polished and paradigm-defining skillset, she manhandled Ling Qi handily, with as small a cultivation gap between them as there's ever been.
Also Ling Qi can't even dodge auto-hit field effects yet. What a scrub.
- Location
- Dreamland
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
Books. Books. I love books.
Books. Books. I love books.
- Location
- foraging for beans
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
After what yrs did with Xuan Shi's book series, I kinda wanna see what Cai reads in her spare time.
After what yrs did with Xuan Shi's book series, I kinda wanna see what Cai reads in her spare time.
[X] Focus on your needlework and watch your friend and liege, you've never actually seen much of their interactions, and you aren't sure you want to blunder into another difficult conversation.
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
We voted to try and be more socially outgoing before, and waffling on that is just gonna be too salty.
We voted to try and be more socially outgoing before, and waffling on that is just gonna be too salty.
Yeah, but all you really need to to do to fix that is swap "eyes" to "ears". Maybe "eyes and ears" if we're being greedy, but still.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[x] Focus on your needlework and watch your friend and liege, you've never actually seen much of their interactions, and you aren't sure you want to blunder into another difficult conversation.
I want to know what they're like together and I don't think we need to immediately dominate the gathering as soon they decide to include us.
I want to know what they're like together and I don't think we need to immediately dominate the gathering as soon they decide to include us.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Loooved this update.
Yay, Qi is a bad influence again! She truly is a gigantic pain in the ass to fight. You Must Be This Tall To Ride, and when you get there, she can still either attrit you to a slow death, or just punch several feet above her weight class.
Qi still wants to overcome the mountain's peak she set her eyes on in the first week of being a cultivator. Better look sharp, Meizhen, Qi is coming.
Oooooh, how cute, wearing a gift from her current crush.
Yeah, these two continue to know each other quite well, and are comfortable enough to poke fun.
Gah she knows Qi so well.
My, how the turn tables.
If she had been less composed that would've been the part where she blushes and almost trips.
Gonna rule in favor of "I have a type and both of you are in it" instead of "she looks like you".
Kinda just wanna sit back and watch them interact tbh.
Yay, Qi is a bad influence again! She truly is a gigantic pain in the ass to fight. You Must Be This Tall To Ride, and when you get there, she can still either attrit you to a slow death, or just punch several feet above her weight class.
Qi still wants to overcome the mountain's peak she set her eyes on in the first week of being a cultivator. Better look sharp, Meizhen, Qi is coming.
Oooooh, how cute, wearing a gift from her current crush.
Yeah, these two continue to know each other quite well, and are comfortable enough to poke fun.
Gah she knows Qi so well.
My, how the turn tables.
If she had been less composed that would've been the part where she blushes and almost trips.
Gonna rule in favor of "I have a type and both of you are in it" instead of "she looks like you".
Kinda just wanna sit back and watch them interact tbh.
- Location
- Israel
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
I'm interested to see what Renxiang reads for liesure.
Alternatively, Ling Qi learned to abstain from using dissonance and instead just set up MotV + Elegy (of which only elegy should provoke a counter and only a single one at that) before transitioning to other arts.
I'm interested to see what Renxiang reads for liesure.
Alternatively, Ling Qi learned to abstain from using dissonance and instead just set up MotV + Elegy (of which only elegy should provoke a counter and only a single one at that) before transitioning to other arts.
- Location
- Canada
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
She did use either dissonance though, it's right there in the text.
Only other thing it could have been is BKSD's first technique, which it couldn't have been since she hasn't cultivated the art yet.
- Location
- United States of America
It must be noted, however, that they haven't attacked Meizhen. They are waiting for Ling Qi's mark to descend. Unless Meizhen's counters have suddenly changed, then the counters would begin when the phantoms actually attacked, not when they had formed. After all, Meizhen counters attacks not things waiting to attack.
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- Location
- The Void
Well, I can tell which one's winning, therefore
[X] Focus on your needlework and watch your friend and liege, you've never actually seen much of their interactions, and you aren't sure you want to blunder into another difficult conversation.
[X] Focus on your needlework and watch your friend and liege, you've never actually seen much of their interactions, and you aren't sure you want to blunder into another difficult conversation.
- Location
- The Space Between
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
I want us to be sincere and curious where the collateral is least risky. A failure here is a place for them to give us pointers no matter how fussy or grumbly we might be about it. At worst it's a very awkward thing we have to work through, but like. At best we show we're earnest and care to be better, especially in this social field we are not so great at
I want us to be sincere and curious where the collateral is least risky. A failure here is a place for them to give us pointers no matter how fussy or grumbly we might be about it. At worst it's a very awkward thing we have to work through, but like. At best we show we're earnest and care to be better, especially in this social field we are not so great at
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?
[X] Take the lead in conversation, ask Cai Renxiang what she was reading. You are trying to be more outgoing. What could go wrong with asking about her literary interests?