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I really do like Casual Diviners Poise, it's got the kind of powers and capabilities that you don't see very often. Fits in nicely with the villain like style we've got going on.

Also, at least conceptually it fits in well with the spiking nature of our high damage attacks. Since using precog to help ensure our one hit kill touch range attack actually lands and doesn't mess us up is one of the better ways to underpin a style like that.
 
[X] No, she did not want to use her friend as a crutch or a shield.

I'm sure that Li Suyin has other things to be doing right now, and I would like to see Ling Qi get his measure in 1v1 interactions. We were able to do it with Gui Tai after all, there's no reason why we can't do it with Bao Qian.
 
Some WoG from PM's regarding CDE vatiants:

Clairvoyance variant combat utility:
It won't loose what it currently has and it has some combat applications, but it is primarily support in a way that the precog one isn't. So yeah area awareness vs. 1v1 precog for combat stuff is accurate
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Precog variant non-combat utility (yrs is being ambiguous):
alectai said:
A quick question brought on by discord talks It seems to be that the "Oracular hints and nudges" would logically be in Casual Diviner's Poise as that's the one that deals with precognition, but there seems to be an argument coming up that "No actually it would be in the one that focuses on clairvoyance because that's the utility one". So, the question basically boils down to "Casual Diviner's Poise is combat focused right now because combat precognition is the easiest manifestation of it, as we were told by Xin, and it'll branch out as it's developed", or is it a strict "Full combat vs non-combat" divide here?
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yrs said:
combat precog is the simplest manifestation, so yes one is precog, one is clairvoyance
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alectai said:
Thanks, just trying to hash out what people want to go for. It does start dipping into non-combat a little bit at the late end though, right? Just like how the other version mostly focuses on utility but still has combat applications? The "Gambling while knowing the odds" part that Xin also said?
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yrs said:
Yeah they both have combat and non combat applications
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Key points in the WoG:
  • Both variants have combat applications; precog is good for 1v1, clairvoyance is good for area awareness.
  • Clairvoyance is primarily utility/support focused (think overwatch/mission control), while precog seems combat focused.
  • "Utility Precognition" is neither confirmed nor denied.
Additional considerations:
  • The CDE+ variant we pick is likely to be our sole combat perception art, plus possibly a G3 potency D-rank radar from HDW.
  • The scrying pool is of questionable marginal utility considering our focus on mobility and stealth.
  • Both variants are meridian-tetris compatible for plans to use CDE+HDW/MoSS in our explore/combat loadout (different tweaking but both are doable).
  • Both should be compatible for our build, just different areas of focus.
Tl;dr when it comes time to vote for CDE+ just vote for what you find a more interesting direction for LQ to explore; Shenhua-like area omniscience vs being a jedi.
 
I think being able to see things coming before they are actually a thing is more useful than being able to search specific areas.
Like, clairvoyance is basicly just scouting+, and can be approximated through getting more eyes in a given area.

Would love to have both, but given time constraints i would prefer precog if i have to choose.
 
Rayous said:
Man, this is much closer than I thought it would be.
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I'm glad; it's been a while since we had a close vote (apart from the keyword choices). This seems to be a real dilemma of "do we want our friend around, either for her expertise or her emotional support/deflection ability (or just because we like Li Suyin being around)?" vs. "do we think we can gain more relevant information if we're one-on-one?"

(Some people have called the prospect of Li Suyin and Du Feng joining us a double date; I would point out that, in my experience, double dates work best when both couples are on even footing, either both established or both new. Du Feng and Li Suyin have been partners in the production halls since at least the second month, probably the first, and Du Feng has a crush he is making no effort to hide. I feel like this would increase awkwardness, not reduce it.)
 
[X] No, she did not want to use her friend as a crutch or a shield.

We may be more likely to determine abs status without the extra people.
 
Black Noise said:
Tl;dr when it comes time to vote for CDE+ just vote for what you find a more interesting direction for LQ to explore; Shenhua-like area omniscience vs being a jedi.
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I mean the goal is to have both, eventually. :^
Ling Qi knows when you're awake, she knows when you've been bad or good so be good or she'll kill you a year before you can do anything.
 
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[X] Convince Li Suyin to come along. It would ease things along a good deal.
 
naths said:
I for one do care about our ability to interact more with spirits, especially since a big reason for our success is the continued favor we get from them
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I'll note that what we do about MoSS is in many ways completely seperate to the argument over PMR vs MSS vs PMR/MSS.

There is, I think, broad agreement that we want it. The question is where it falls on then priority list. There is a strong argument, I feel, for dropping 1-2 AP in it in a few months for large marginal gains. Beyond that, however, things get more complicated in terms of how the investment/return curve shifts. Level 3 costs, what, another 2 ap? Then level 4 is probably 3-4?

As you say, spirits can be super useful, but it's very much a gamble.
 
Erebeal said:
I'll note that what we do about MoSS is in many ways completely seperate to the argument over PMR vs MSS vs PMR/MSS.

There is, I think, broad agreement that we want it. The question is where it falls on then priority list. There is a strong argument, I feel, for dropping 1-2 AP in it in a few months for large marginal gains. Beyond that, however, things get more complicated in terms of how the investment/return curve shifts. Level 3 costs, what, another 2 ap? Then level 4 is probably 3-4?

As you say, spirits can be super useful, but it's very much a gamble.
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There is a good argument that MoSS might also help with Sixiang, Zhengui and Hanyi, too. Like, making sure we actually understand each others as well as we think we do.
 
Erebeal said:
As you say, spirits can be super useful, but it's very much a gamble.
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Once we know what SSC means by "rewarding dealings with the spirits of the world" though it will become much less of a gamble. We'll have some concrete information on how our cultivation art rewards us for interacting with spirits and MoSS will be incredibly valuable in having a solid art in which to better communicate with said spirits.
 
[X] No, she did not want to use her friend as a crutch or a shield.

If we want Ling Qi to start socializing on her own giving her a crutch is counterproductive, plus we never will get her an husbando if we don't put her in situations where she can develop those feelings.

A 1000 years old cat lady Ling Qi would be too sad a fate for her (even through I would lol if it happened:rofl:)
 
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[X] No, she did not want to use her friend as a crutch or a shield.

For a couple of reasons:
1) We need to get an accurate read on Bao Qian as quickly as possible to determine whether he is someone we should be factoring into our plans for the near term.
2) Li Suyin is Green 1. Any threat that would tax Bao Qian and Ling Qi would be a lethal threat to her given that she is not combat focused at all.
3) We need to work on our socialise, and if we have Li Suyin there, Ling Qi will be sorely tempted into backsliding into using her to avoid socialising. This allows us to remove that temptation.
 
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