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Erebeal's argument has convinced me, let's make Expression a thing.
We could say "expression (thematic)" if you want, but I'd say that as a theme it's just as sound as all the others we have here. From a role perspective voting for "social (music)" would be excessively restrictive and unjustified.Ehh.
I feel Expression is leaning a bit close to the "I don't want specific abilities/attributes" border.
It's not quite there, but it's close enough that you might want to get a check on it.
You're forgetting that Mystery doesn't have to mean us being mysterious. It could also mean us finding out mysteriesAfter some thought, I am increasingly disliking Mystery due to its interaction with Sincerity. Mystery relies on hiding one's cards and keeping opponents in the dark when dealing with them. It's hard to say that this is in tune with the themes expressed by Sincerity. Can you say that you're being fully sincere when you actively try to minimize the amount of knowledge your opponents have?
There will always be situations where Ling Qi will have to hide information from her opponents. For Ling Qi to be sincere in her dealings, however, it would generally be preferable for her to expose more information about her beliefs, her worries, etc. as long as it's not necessarily harmful for her position. This exposure, in the average scenario, makes Ling Qi less mysterious. Actively trying to make Ling Qi more mysterious in spite of this brings her sincerity into question.
In my opinion, Secrets as a keyword is preferable. Everyone has secrets, and it would be unreasonable to expect even the most sincere person to expose them unnecessarily. Explicitly keeping secrets is far more in tune with Sincerity than not exposing whether you have secrets in the first place. Would this potentially make it easier for Ling Qi's enemies to ferret out more information about Ling Qi than we want them to? Perhaps, but that's the price we have to pay if we want to properly develop Ling Qi's sincerity as a facet of her character.
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You're forgetting that Mystery doesn't have to mean us being mysterious. It could also mean us finding out mysteries
Ehh I think they might be about equal but who knows.Sure, that's one aspect I talked about in an earlier post. As I explained, I believe figuring out mysteries in a social art is generally inferior to discovering secrets.
Generic social is fine, but social offense and social defense feel too limiting, we would need to that get the opposite art later.
I'm not sure how much I'd characterise HDW as social perception tbh. I'd describe it more as "radar that happens to be good at reading connections between people". Which isn't really the same thing as what you want for reading the people you're talking to.I was suggesting people pick up Social Offense/Defense if they don't want to single one out to prioritize, because we've got a social perception art and we don't need our new art to cover that too.
"You should have seen him back when he was just a first realm. He was so tiny and cute and precious!"ha! Mom- I mean, Big Sister Ling Qi gusing about her turtlesnek.
That works in the narrow circumstances of working with people you are already likely to agree with, like in this party, or with people who you share beliefs or goals with.I suppose you can interpret the keywords that way, but I'd prefer for Ling Qi to be sincere as often as possible, not sincere in some situations and mysterious in others. I'm not sure if it's likely for the arts to be designed that way even if you want a clear separation.
Regardless, there are many ways to prevent a connection from forming other than concealing your intentions, the most obvious of which is explicitly showing your intention of not wanting to make a connection. This might make enemies for Ling Qi, but I'd personally be fine with that in most situations.
Yeah, this was easymode. Gotta thank Luo for it.So, I'm going to talk about the scene in the latest update which intrigued me the most. And that is the conversation with Wu Jing.
While I don't think he was wrong, I don't think he is nearly as good at this verbal sparring thing as he thinks he is and if he was actually talking with someone who had more experience and skill (coughXiulancough) he might have been torn apart.
The moment Wu Jing started talking about how Ling Qi doesn't see some other members of the party as peers, he stepped on a potential landmine of how Ling Qi was treated by scions of the Emerald Seas nobility in the outer sect. She was scorned, ridiculed, and dismissed. Even when she became, officially, a member of the nobility nobody invited her to parties, nobody tried to introduce her to other peerage members, and nobody tried to integrate her into the peerage. She only began to attend parties when she became the retainer of Renxiang. Ling Qi, for the majority of her career as a noble, has been treated as an outsider intruding into the nobility.
You don't plant an apple tree and expect a peach tree to sprout, and the actions of the Emerald Sea's nobility as a whole have led to a situation where expecting Ling Qi to have a desire to see the peerage as peers is just as bizarre. Furthermore, Wu Jing's approach of talking about the peerage to Ling Qi opened him up to some brutal lines of discourse.
A person with sufficient knowledge of Wu Jing's position on Imperial culture and with a sharp enough wit could then transition the discourse of a commoner entering the peerage into the hypocrisy of Imperial Culture in regards to commoners. If it is a sacred and honorable duty to protect, nurture, and direct commoners then why are commoners held in contempt when the results of said protection, nurturing, and direction lead to some of them being able to assume some of the noble burdens and become immortals? Should such individuals not be celebrated as proof of cultivators ability to protect and nurture mortals to the degree that some become immortals?
By taking these tracks of discourse, Ling Qi could have directed him into a corner where he had to defend how the Emerald Sea nobility treated Ling Qi and the way Imperial Culture treats commoners becoming cultivators to Ling Qi, or try to disengage as gracefully as possible. This course would have won us no favors with him and his clique, but it could have hurt his reputation and directed individuals who don't like him towards us.
Ling Qi had the information needed to make these connections and take this route, but she certainly doesn't have the skill to actually do it at the moment, or at least not well. Wu Jing could have gone for a safer tactic and discussed how Ling Qi treating this party as if there was something treacherous/insidious when she was invited in good faith, and how disappointing it is to see a retainer of the Cai treating the peerage as if they were waiting to backstab her.
Honestly, I feel that it is good that someone breached these topics to Ling Qi, and that someone wasn't a social juggernaut. It will give Ling Qi some experience dealing with more antagonistical members of the nobility.