[x] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.

Yeah, these last few updates have really highlighted that despite how righteous many of the Host try to be, the group as a whole is rapidly shifting towards the same brutality they accuse the Gloaming of. From general tactics to personal interactions, not to mention how justified they see themselves as... not a pretty picture. Heck, these people weren't even part of the Gloaming, and yet the Host's first action here was to chuck as many as they could though a portal to... I dunno, hell? Nonexistence? My Digimon lore is weak, but even just with the clues Verge has picked up I give it a good chance of being a far worse fate than deletion.
 
I've realised something, last update it was shown that Verge and Sparks shares a bond strong enough that they shared energy, to boost each other, it made me realise that Sparks and Verge share a bond that may be enough for them to be able to jogress.

I also realised this, Sparks dialogue color is Courage Orange and that he is compatible with the digimental of Courage, in FlameWizardmons digivolution tree, it is possible for Sparks to become BlackWarGreymon.

Where I'm going with this is that I've realised that there is a very real chance for us to jogress with Sparks to form Omegamon and his variants.

There are multiple evolution paths from Gryzmon that leads to the MetalGarurumon Variants, so long as Sparks reaches BlackWarGreymon, we could possibly become Omegamon X.
 
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I'm pretty sure even Pit would be taken aback from this kind of action. As killing mon unable to defend themselves would strike way to close to home for the guy I bet considering his past.
We'll have to see about that. Pit's getting training from that MagnaAngemon, and he's a True Believer in the Host. So he may accept it as a divine will or some bullshit like that.
 
That kill stealing bastard! That data was ours (Verge and Sparks) to load.

[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
-[X] He compounds dishonor by stealing Power, slowing the growth of his subordinates.
 
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Rip Polly, may he recieve his cracker in his next run.

[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.

Also to note there is some actual logic behind Magnaprick's action. Why keep a enemy ULTIMATE alive who could backstab at any point while spending resources i.e. food and mon to guard him while being a mon who has deleted Host Soilders, when instead you can use it to heal our own wounded powerful Ultimate who'd take time to recover and can immediately get back into the fight.

It's most definitely distasteful, but the reason behind it is sound.

Also to note while the whole religious factor plays a big role here, we got to remember these guys are legitimate monsters and loading a enemy surrendered or not to heal is a natural action to take.
 
We'll have to see about that. Pit's getting training from that MagnaAngemon, and he's a True Believer in the Host. So he may accept it as a divine will or some bullshit like that.
Well we better help keep him grounded then when we get the chance, as it would be really bad if our bud goes full Zealot here. Since that would really really suck if he becomes the mon everyone seems to think he will become.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
There's one other important point to consider which neither of the vote options bring up.

The bird attacked us while claiming they were surrendering, which implies that their surrender was insincere.
as your defeated foes limb is pulled free.
foe's
The Ultimates stiff timbers back, finally crashing into the rocky slope.
?????
you lift half of the surprisingly light digimons body up and press your shoulder underneath.
digimon's
searching through the nests few remaining supplies.
nest's
Our mission is the defend that base a
is to defend
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.

If it were logical we would have loaded him already. An Ultimate would be a fine meal.
But surrenders have to be respected and executions justified. Not just convenience to be his healthpack.

At least interrogate him first for god's sake!
Bone cracks, metal crumples, and the enormous avian's head snaps back. Pain flares up from your gut and is followed by a thin trickle of rising data as your defeated foes limb is pulled free. The Ultimates stiff timbers back, finally crashing into the rocky slope.

It drew my attention upwards and used my blindspot to land a counter. Then. Ergh... was the surrender a mere distraction? Focus. You need the opinion of your officers Verge.
Mind you, Parrotmon never intended to actually surrender, so its not something that'd drive us to quit yet, but still nothing good
"It was ours." you state, plonking over towards the lightly snoring mound of feathers. With careful positions, you lift half of the surprisingly light digimons body up and press your shoulder underneath.

"Aye. I think that is the case. But how, this occurrence cannot be common perhaps... it may be wise to keep this quiet. At least until I've managed to uncover more information."


Keeping it secret... I trust Sparks. And the Host is...

You find yourself suppressing a shiver as the memory of MagnaAngemon's gate bubbles to the surface.
Indeed, the Host has gazed deeply into the Abyss
"He attempted surrender. I could have deleted him, but didn't. For now... let's see what MaganAngemon has to say."
MaganAngemon sounds like a variant Fallen form.
"Sir. I have... taken this Parrotmon prisoner."

"Indeed... And who Bellator gave you the authority needed for that decision?"

I need authority for that? Does that mean only officers can take prisoners? How does-Focus. Answer his question Verge.

"No one. He surrendered and I defeated him without permanently ending his path... Sir." The squinting angel, shrugs at your words, then ignites his energy blade with a hiss. You tense up reflexively, but the extra weight and slick ground slows your movement.

The smell of burning flesh assaults your nostrils.

Parrotmon's head falls free.

"Good job on bringing that damned bird here. You saved me the trouble of chasing another heathen down and gifted me with a way to recover." The Imperius flashes you a vicious smile as his eyes vanish behind a rapidly reforming helmet.

I ...he just. What?!
Though I suppose its still strategically useful that we went for a capture, since our strongest Ultimate is patched up.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.

Heck, these people weren't even part of the Gloaming, and yet the Host's first action here was to chuck as many as they could though a portal to... I dunno, hell? Nonexistence? My Digimon lore is weak, but even just with the clues Verge has picked up I give it a good chance of being a far worse fate than deletion.

To be fair, they did kill a Trailmon, which, if I recall correctly, have in this quest been established as thee neutral mon to the point that even the Gloaming won't attack them directly. The Host is still on a slippery slope and have been a touch overboard, but I'm just saying that there's still some kind of reason people can think this was okay other than Deus Vult.
 
You know, with our commander having Angewomon's on hand to heal and having the ability to do such himself too, I got to ask why he felt the need to steal a load from a freaking champion under him? As he didn't need to load to deal with his wounds, since the Host is the faction with the most wide spread healing in their ranks.

So the fact that our commander choose to load and heal like that means he either made a choice to steal from a underling who would get vastly more out of the load because he couldn't be assed to tap one of the angewomons to heal him or even do it himself, as the bastard has a strong natural healing ability. Or he just didn't see anything wrong with taking hard earn bounties from his men to better himself at their cost.

Because even if one can get behind and agree with his gloaming like logic, his actions really don't paint him in a good light even by that standard.

Yeah, the more I think about this the more I start to really dislike this commander. As it has just been a constant out pouring of jackassery every time we have to deal with this guy.
 
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So the fact that our commander choose to load and heal like that means he either made a choice to steal from a underling who would get vastly more out of the load because he couldn't be assed to tap one of the angewomons to heal him or even do it himself, as the bastard has a strong natural healing ability.

You mean the Angewoman who we saw that one was passed out and the other is nursing a missing hand? And remember, we showed up days late to the base. We have no idea how long the fight was going on before we got there, and then MagnaAngemon immediately took his forces to this fight. It's not out of the question that he's just out of gas at this point.
 
....No that's just logic.

How are they supposed to restraint a Ultimate without proper equipment to do so? Also the fact at a moment's notice if given the chance, could inflict massive casualties upon the champions that make up most of our forces.

Yes he's being a prick about it, but that logic isn't sticky Gloaming's. It's just that, logic.
 
You mean the Angewoman who we saw that one was passed out and the other is nursing a missing hand? And remember, we showed up days late to the base. We have no idea how long the fight was going on before we got there, and then MagnaAngemon immediately took his forces to this fight. It's not out of the question that he's just out of gas at this point.
Huh, might have missed that about the state of the Angewomon. But in that case wouldn't it have made more sense for one of them to get the load to heal rather then him? As they seemed to have been in worst a state then our commander. An would then have the means to heal him right after anyway.

....No that's just logic.

How are they supposed to restraint a Ultimate without proper equipment to do so? Also the fact at a moment's notice if given the chance, could inflict massive casualties upon the champions that make up most of our forces.

Yes he's being a prick about it, but that logic isn't sticky Gloaming's. It's just that, logic.
He had options though, heck right off hand, he could have easily told Verge to watch over the mon until it awoke and dealt with it then. As if Verge and Sparks could have taken out the bird, there is no reason to believe they couldn't keep a eye on him too on the short term. As at least trying to pump the bird for info would have been a small cost in time and could lead to a lot of info. As Polly was a Ult and would have know at least something of note because of his power if nothing else. It's just wasteful to off him like that for a quick gain.

As for the dicks logic just being logic. No, killing defenseless enemies that surrendered just because it is easy is never a good practice. As you just create all kinds of problems down the road and make it so any enemy that fights you will fight to the last. As there is no other option from them, plus why trust the faction that so casually breaks it own stated mission for simple ease.

No, these kind of logic is something you would expect a Gloaming officer to do with thought, not Host one who is suppose to be held to a higher standard and creed.
 
No, killing defenseless enemies that surrendered just because it is easy is never a good practice.
Easy? No its being safe, he is Ultimate the amount of damage he could inflict could cripple most of the mons here if not out right delete a decent chunk of the ones who aren't as bs as the rest of our squad.

The amount of information he could possibly have is not worth the amount of lives that can be lost if the ult decides to go for an attack.

This a is cold and harsh action, but is also the safer one. As to why should he risk his troops on the words of a mon who slaughter their allies in the asssults.
 
Easy? No its being safe, he is Ultimate the amount of damage he could inflict could cripple most of the mons here if not out right delete a decent chunk of the ones who aren't as bs as the rest of our squad.

The amount of information he could possibly have is not worth the amount of lives that can be lost if the ult decides to go for an attack.

This a is cold and harsh action, but is also the safer one. As to why should he risk his troops on the words of a mon who slaughter their allies in the asssults.
Because he can easily get answers and decide if he surrendered in good faith after a quick talk. As you act like it would take so much time to just wake the bird and do a quick Q and A with him.

Then for there you can make a much more informed choice on how to deal with the bird instead of just assuming and acting like a dick.
 
[X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
 
Welp, this vote is extremly one sided.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Feb 20, 2019 at 1:15 AM, finished with 28 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
    [X] But his actions were still unacceptable. Massacring a defeated opponent, a surrendered one no less and showing such dishonor is disgusting. *Reasonable* from his point of view or not, you won't agree with the action.
    -[X] He compounds dishonor by stealing Power, slowing the growth of his subordinates.
 
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