Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)
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Everyone it seems that every attack will hit, and Ardat has no chance of dodging them. The thing we are voting on is the severity of the attack, Maul will hit regardless of the arguments about wind up time because Ardat will not dodge it.
Same thing with Bite and *Hug*, seriously do not use the natural weapons that can kill an ultimate on Ardat please.
Don't Maul or Bite Ardat right after her Father Scratch gave his life to digivolve us and had his dying wish be for Verge to protect Ardat.
Seriously just look at the discord channel for proof.
Also the bonus points, one for Strength, one for Agility, one for Endurance, one for Special, and one for Spirit.
Same thing with Bite and *Hug*, seriously do not use the natural weapons that can kill an ultimate on Ardat please.
Don't Maul or Bite Ardat right after her Father Scratch gave his life to digivolve us and had his dying wish be for Verge to protect Ardat.
Seriously just look at the discord channel for proof.
Also the bonus points, one for Strength, one for Agility, one for Endurance, one for Special, and one for Spirit.
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So which option are you arguing for again? You list bite and *hug* in natural weapons that can kill an ultimate and then list maul and bite as what shouldn't be used.
Also can we please keep the discord chat from becoming necessary to know what voting options are?
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Maul involves claws, and Bite involves Verge's fangs.
Seen here
I don't want to use that on Ardat, doing so could cause serious damage to her even with Ultimate Fortitude, while *Hug* is just Verge crushing her which she might shrug off, considering her Ultimate level Fortitude, and Vastly superior Strength, which as noted in the last update to be higher than the Count.
Think about this way use Claws which tore through SkullSatomon's body, or Fangs which could tear through most materials with ease coupled with the fact that Ardat upper torso could fit through Verge's mouth.
Compare that to merely trying to crush someone who likely has higher Fortitude than us, and is explicitly stronger than the Count.
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drexal15
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Something to note is that the "fight" against SkullSatomon hinges on a few key points.
1: his leg was missing give him very bad violence
2: he was shocked by what the fuck was going on and ended up scared, something he was really not used to.
3: Verge targeted his core which had already been exposed by Scratch.
===Side note, what I commented on in discord:
I'm curious, why is everyone assume mauling will somehow be more telegraphed than the "Hug"?
Vanargand
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2 in STR 1 in Spirit please
drexal15
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It's essentially Verge's gut-reaction to being hugged by a LadyDevimon. All options are violent, but the vote allows the players (you guys) to express how that ends up manifesting here.
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What we are determining is how we will harm Ardat. Do we A. Bite her with Fangs sharp enough to tear through most materials, B. Maul her with claws strong enough that it is just slightly less tougher than the armor which withstood attacks from Ultimate without a scratch, or C. Just bear hug her.
Basically we are determining the severity of the damage.
It's similar to the first encounter with Ardat with 3 similar choices. Drill, Bite, and Headbutt, which had varying levels of severity, Drill was the most lethal, Bite the middle option, and Headbutt the least.
I equate Drill to Maul, Bite to well Bite, and *Hug* to Headbutt.
Also Verge already has a fighting style, it's being a martial artist bear who has the ability to shoot Artillery grade blast of Holy light, cast Heals, and various buffs to enhance his fighting capabilities with the notable example of Flame Enchant which adds fire attributes to his weapons which in this case is his claws and fangs.
Hmmm... Verge with flaming claws and fangs something like is a good idea for a drawing.
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Knight-Radiant
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[X] *Hug*.
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I'm sorry for causing the confusion. And I had thought the reasoning unObservant gave was sound, which is why I changed my vote. With things more thoroughly explained, it all comes back full circle.
[X] *Hug*.
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Hug back mwahaha
He needs to wind up more than with a hug, where he moves her in to well...hug back.
A mauling needs a bit more rearing back to cut over smack
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A magic, martial artist bear to be precise.
Also now that we have reached Champion, clearly it is time to start hypothesizing on Ultimate forms. Because unless was on discord, I don't think they've been stated.
GrapLeomon think can be safely assumed. It's a possible Digivolution for Gryzmon in most cases where Gryzmon pops up, a Beast Man form makes sense with Verge's mutant trait making him slightly more humanoid than others, and it gives spin attacks back after we've lost our drills (clearly most important thing lost). Other similar options would be WereGarurumon and MachGaogamon (normal or black variants for either), but feel this one is more likely.
Looking at wiki have both Monzaemon and Pandamon are listed as possible Digivolutions. But I'm guessing there is going to only be one giant teddy bear form as an option. And over those technically more canon two, I think we'd end up WaruMonzaemon. Reason is the left arm which is a grizzly bear rather than a stuffed animal.
Going off wikis, there are two Deva options which have already been discussed. Based off drex's dislike of the form, I expect will see Vajramon instead of Caturamon. Other option would be seeing is Mihiramon keeping the claws and fangs.
I'm expecting one more traditionally humanoid and knightly Digivolution and I think that will be Mistymon. Verge inherited some of his spells and fighting styles and I expect will probably swear some oath in his memory when combat and wrath wears off.
MadLeomon I see gets listed as an Ultimate and that's kind of what think makes sense for a dark Digivolution where lose self to wrath.
Mammothmon and Hippogriffmon are both options I see for remaining on all fours. Both also might work for continuing light magic use even if they are mythical beasts not holy beasts.
And finally Breakdramon because we must regain the drills. We need all the drills.
Looking at wiki have both Monzaemon and Pandamon are listed as possible Digivolutions. But I'm guessing there is going to only be one giant teddy bear form as an option. And over those technically more canon two, I think we'd end up WaruMonzaemon. Reason is the left arm which is a grizzly bear rather than a stuffed animal.
Going off wikis, there are two Deva options which have already been discussed. Based off drex's dislike of the form, I expect will see Vajramon instead of Caturamon. Other option would be seeing is Mihiramon keeping the claws and fangs.
I'm expecting one more traditionally humanoid and knightly Digivolution and I think that will be Mistymon. Verge inherited some of his spells and fighting styles and I expect will probably swear some oath in his memory when combat and wrath wears off.
MadLeomon I see gets listed as an Ultimate and that's kind of what think makes sense for a dark Digivolution where lose self to wrath.
Mammothmon and Hippogriffmon are both options I see for remaining on all fours. Both also might work for continuing light magic use even if they are mythical beasts not holy beasts.
And finally Breakdramon because we must regain the drills. We need all the drills.
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She's currently wrapped around our neck. Mauling is reaching up and clawing at her, not making a giant swinging claw strike.
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[X] *Hug*.
Yeah she's not in her right state of mind, also the way we've acted towards Ardat previoulsy has given her no idea to what our actual disposition is towards her. We might want to clear that up at some point, before it gets all of us killed, if we can.
From Ardat's POV we're just a cuddly friend, who likes her as much as she liked us. She'll not be expecting an attack of any sort and is incredibly unlikely to dodge. Hug is slow, can be more easily withstood by Ardat's frame, and gives some time for either us or Ardat to realise what's going on and come to our senses.
Yeah she's not in her right state of mind, also the way we've acted towards Ardat previoulsy has given her no idea to what our actual disposition is towards her. We might want to clear that up at some point, before it gets all of us killed, if we can.
From Ardat's POV we're just a cuddly friend, who likes her as much as she liked us. She'll not be expecting an attack of any sort and is incredibly unlikely to dodge. Hug is slow, can be more easily withstood by Ardat's frame, and gives some time for either us or Ardat to realise what's going on and come to our senses.
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Well to reply to your digivolution theories, I think your spot on, but I would like to add that MadLeomon is also listed as a champion, so if we somehow digivolved into him, it would probably work more as a intermediate between champion and ultimate seeing as he only has one digivolution that doesn't require jogress, which is Baalmon, who is also a straight ticket to Beelzemon so it works out.
Another thing Breakdramon I did not think of that because Breakdramon is not listed in Gryzmon's digivolution page, but it fits well.
The only thing I have to add to your list is that Cerberumon has been discussed as a ultimate form for Verge, which coincidentally is both a Vaccine and Virus type and a mammal digimon like Drimogemon and Gryzmon.
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Of these forms:
GrapLeomon - My hands-down favorite (just look at my "Fist to Fist" Omake), mainly because it continues the whole "martial artist beast" theme. On top of that it allows us a chance to break the freaking "Leomon always dies tragically" meme.
MachGaogamon/WereGarurumon - Another good martial artist animal man, I don't think it's quite as likely due to the general speed requirements of that line. Though it could be an interesting change for Verge becoming a canine as opposed to a bear.
Monzaemon/Pandamon/Warumonzaemon - Out of the three options I would honestly say that Monzaemon would be more likely. Plus Verge would look absolutely terrifying anyway, so a Warumonzaemon would be a bit of overkill. Even if it does have a link to Gryzmon thanks to having a Kuma Tsume on one paw.
Vajramon - nice mystical connection, and it leverages strength, though on the downside it would probably restrict our magic use further.
Mistymon/Knightmon - Possible due to the influx of data from Scratch, but not probable I think.
Madleomon - Isn't this a champion?
Mammothmon - all of the strength, none of the hands. The trunk doesn't give us nearly the same kind of versatility.
Hippogriffmon - Has claws that are at least somewhat allow for manipulation, plus flight. Though with enough power Verge can figure out DBZ-style flight on his own.
*Takes a look at Gryzmon's wiki/evolution candidates*
You have overlooked the single best option available to us:
Delumon!
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Well to clarify Mistymon is the form Drexal said that would be available to us regardless of what champion we digivolved into, it would have been available at Gladimon, it would have been available at Digmon, and in this case it would have been available to Gryzmon.
Yep he is a champion but he is also counted as an ultimate as seen here in his profile page.
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Think of MadLeomon as a similar digimon to Whamon and Minotarumon, who both have a champion and ultimate version of themselves
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drexal15
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Uh... when the heck did I say that?!
Edit: Pretty sure I didn't.
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I think it was when you started talking about Gladimon, you said Gladimon is not normally available to rookie Drimogemons, and only became available to Verge because of a certain ultimate evolution that is possible for him, and when people started talking about how said ultimate is a Knightmon because of the Knightmon featured prominently in Verge's dream, you clarified that Knightmon is not the evolution that caused Gladimon to become a possible digivolution for Verge, and that Mistymon is the Digimon form that allowed Gladimon Verge to be a possibility, you then said that form would be available to Verge regardless of what champion form he ended up digivolving too, and then you clarified again that Knightmon is only available to Gladimon Verge.
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I honestly forgot about Cerberumon and he is great. One of the few ultimates with an alt mode and has both Plutomon and Anubismon as options (I think) both of which I feel are good thematic final forms.
Why would Vajramon limit magic?
And I kinda hope DBZ-style flight doesn't occur until reach Mega at least.
Clearly would be too powerful/broken to be granted to us.
drexal15
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Erm, not quite.
I mentioned that there was an artificial reason as to why Verge a rookie Drimogemon could become a Gladimon. If Verge became something other than Gladimon that does not go away, even if the Knightmon form itself is blocked off as a natural evolution. It wasn't a direct confirmation.
I never said that Mistymon as a potential ultimate was the reason why Verge could become Gladimon. Especially since it's really not true.
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[X] *Hug*.
My thought was that she'd see us reaching back with our massive murderclaws in a manner that couldn't really be mistaken for a friendly gesture, but apparently completely forgot that she was already hugging us and was therefore not seeing much of anything. So if that's not happening, I'm all for the bear hug.
My thought was that she'd see us reaching back with our massive murderclaws in a manner that couldn't really be mistaken for a friendly gesture, but apparently completely forgot that she was already hugging us and was therefore not seeing much of anything. So if that's not happening, I'm all for the bear hug.