Fuck Lone Hero Tropes! Loyalty all the way! I always been high on that. We supported Flamemon and we will do the same with Sparks. It probably ruins my plans to make Verge a Dorulumon but at the moment it was impossible to reach that level of stats on short time.

Not really, Drexal said it was possible to Max out all of the stats before Verge digivolves all of the Stats, so yeah not impossible.
 
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

I knew something like this'd happen since we chose to trust the Host, I really despise the idea of gravitating even a single inch closer to them...... but abandoning Sparks just isn't kosher.
 
I knew something like this'd happen since we chose to trust the Host, I really despise the idea of gravitating even a single inch closer to them...... but abandoning Sparks just isn't kosher.
Yeah me too, considering one of their leaders or leader Seraphimon wiped out a city, and the fact that it was a betrayal as I remember it, I might be wrong, but that doesn't paint a good picture of the faction as a whole.
 
I see this quest splitting in two very diffrent dirrections based off this choice:

[] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

In this option we join the Host. We become part of a greater faction with all that implies. We will have orders and receive missions; however we should get training from the some of the other mons in this area so I wouldn't be worried about not advancing our skills. We get access to a group of organized mons that already fight against the Count that we may be able to call upon when we decide its time to attempt our revenge/jailbreak; however. From being apart of the Host and possibly advancing in rank we will also get a better scope of the Gloaming forces and hopefully take a more realistic view on the forces we are going to have to face to rescue our family. Also if we join with Sparks we can prevent the possibility of him being ensnared by any of the worst ideology or propaganda of the Host. His mind state is particularly vulnerable to that type of influence right now and I could easily see him falling to it without someone to support him. Besides that this route I feel will have us more likely come into conflict with Gnaw, but this is more of a gut feeling. Another more fringe benefit from the Host is that we might have more easily access to training in magic. We also will have more ease of access to one of the most valuable things when fighting an enemy: intel. Through the Host we will be able to more easily access intel about things like the Count's bases, estimated number of champions/ultimates/megas, what the races and abilities of those champions/ultimates/megas are, etc. By ourselves we will have a harder time getting that and may not end up knowing some of that stuff at all.

[] Refuse his Request. If you depend upon someone else again, then you'll only be weaker yourself. You'll have to be stronger than ever now, and you can't gain that power with Sparks. You refuse to die until you've had had your revenge and your family has been rescued. Irregular data or not, you'll just have to digivolve and prevent that fate from occurring.

In this option we refuse Sparks and commit ourselves to training 100% of the time. This is a total mental shift and I wouldn't be surprised if digivolving becomes a new major goal. We will most likely grow faster going this route, but we will damage our relationship with Sparks to some extent. Could be a little or it could be a lot, it's hard to tell. We also leave Sparks to possibly be preyed upon by the worst ideology and propaganda of the Host, especially if he is ordered to go somewhere else to train or be stationed. In the long term with this option we have to find our own group of digimon to assault the Count with, which uh....will probably be a task in of itself. I say this because we can't possibly fight the Count and all his subordinates by ourselves. We will need to find allies on a similar level and the Host provides an excess of them while going alone will require more finagling to find those digimon who will be our power level AND willing to assault the Gloaming. I also think this option will have a less likely chance of coming into conflict with Gnaw, again just a gut feeling. This option is also another step towards the coolest digimon I've seen yet: Dorulumon. Choosing this means we won't be constrained by any rules the Host has, we do what missions we want to do when we want to do them. Definitely more freedom with this option.


Between the 2 options I'm not sure which one appeals to me more. Will have to think more on it over the day and come back to vote.
 
Hmmm someone can help me to parody some disney songs? We are going for a training arc and a omake Series can help to improve talents of the fields that we need.
 
I am conflicted

One one hand friendship (tingled with hatred, emotional issues and unhealthy psyche!)

On the other (Vergil)

There`s also how the Dokukugomon will interpret this
 
Yeah me too, considering one of their leaders or leader Seraphimon wiped out a city, and the fact that it was a betrayal as I remember it, I might be wrong, but that doesn't paint a good picture of the faction as a whole.
Wrecked a city, he didn't entirely wipe it out. Though that was purely the side affects of his fight.

Also not a betrayal on his part.
Hmmm someone can help me to parody some disney songs? We are going for a training arc and a omake Series can help to improve talents of the fields that we need.
This could work.

 
Wrecked a city, he didn't entirely wipe it out. Though that was purely the side affects of his fight.

Also not a betrayal on his part.

This could work.


Yep it could work but will be long with considering what I have planned... Can I get a talent upgrade with 2000-3000 words? When I do everything it will probably end on that range.
 
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

Yeah leaving Sparks alone in his current state doesn't seem like a good idea at all.
 
Yep it could work but will be long with considering what I have planned... Can I get a talent upgrade with 2000-3000 words? When I do everything it will probably end on that range.
If it's quite literally the first word based Omake and it's that impressive, then sure!

... Though for fairness sake I'd also have to give one to Demenos and Knight Radiant each for all of their splendid work.


Edit: Hmm. Will have to think of a better way to handle it.

2nd Edit: Got it. Instead of direct Talent points I'll allow people to advance the progress Verge is on to upgrading one. (Since I am keeping track)

3rd Edit: So you wouldn't get a talent point by itself but rather increase how close Verge is to leveling a specific Talent. Which would largely depend on the quality and quantity of the Omake.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Aug 26, 2018 at 1:10 PM, finished with 72 posts and 16 votes.

  • [X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
    [X] Refuse his Request. If you depend upon someone else again, then you'll only be weaker yourself. You'll have to be stronger than ever now, and you can't gain that power with Sparks. You refuse to die until you've had had your revenge and your family has been rescued. Irregular data or not, you'll just have to digivolve and prevent that fate from occurring.
 
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[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

Our goals coincide very strongly in any case so I see no reason to not do this unless we specifically go for the lone wolf hero route... which I don't like if it means purposefully trying to make our character moe 'alone' because I've been their myself and it isn't pleasant.

That and Verge is such a mutant I'm not sure his champion form whatever it is will follow typical rules anyway so I don't see point in going for a specific one.
 
Vote is currently 11-5 in favour of Pledging to Sparks.

Hmm. Sorry for all the *Heavy* votes in such a short period of time, once we get to the start of part 1 in a few posts things should be getting more *normal* again. For a while anyway. There's one more major goal that's going to be addressed eventually.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Aug 26, 2018 at 1:10 PM, finished with 72 posts and 16 votes.

  • [X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.
    [X] Refuse his Request. If you depend upon someone else again, then you'll only be weaker yourself. You'll have to be stronger than ever now, and you can't gain that power with Sparks. You refuse to die until you've had had your revenge and your family has been rescued. Irregular data or not, you'll just have to digivolve and prevent that fate from occurring.
 
Well this seems like theres a clear winner here, and its not the lone wolf option.

But that aside I'll try one last time to persuade people to go the decline offer and here is my reasoning.

First and foremost, choosing this option gives Verge the most growth in abilities and power, ensuring that he will most definitely have a powerful champion form, not a mediocre one or god forbid by some strings of horrible decision making Numemon.

Secondly something that people might have realised this could have the effect of saving Sparks life, while it might seem like fear mongering hear me out.

Pledging to Sparks means that he will inevitably be there during the fight against the Count and Repulsa, which lets face it could lead to his death, depending on what choices have been made, and I believe that this is one of them.

While this could be averted even if we pledged ourselves to him, well, pledging would definitely raise a death flag to Sparks.

Third and finally, Sparks said he would join the Blessed host, which according to Verge's past life had their leader Seraphimon wipe out a city, which Verge was affiliated with, I feel that they are pretty much suspicious and possible antagonist in this quest, which meant that joining up with them could be considerably dangerous for Verge, I feel it is better for Verge to stay unaffiliated until new information reveals itself.

All in all this is just my opinion and an argument to persuade people.
 
[X] Refuse his Request. If you depend upon someone else again, then you'll only be weaker yourself. You'll have to be stronger than ever now, and you can't gain that power with Sparks. You refuse to die until you've had had your revenge and your family has been rescued. Irregular data or not, you'll just have to digivolve and prevent that fate from occurring.
 
[X] Refuse his Request. If you depend upon someone else again, then you'll only be weaker yourself. You'll have to be stronger than ever now, and you can't gain that power with Sparks. You refuse to die until you've had had your revenge and your family has been rescued. Irregular data or not, you'll just have to digivolve and prevent that fate from occurring.
 
[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

In for a penny, in for a pound. right now Sparks is the only real friend we have left short of the KoDokugumon, and they aren't very good conversationalists.
Right now, Sparks needs us so he can get his head screwed back on straight(and summarily help us get ours screwed back on straight). and we aren't in the best of headspaces ourselves, so going it alone, especially in a death-world like all Digital Worlds often are is, as one would say, A Bad Idea.

In other words, as Arbormon over in Digimon World: Infamy so often said, 'A Friend in need is a Friend in need!'
 
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[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

I don't see the benefits of running solo right now. Just hope most of the Host aren't racist against virus and mutants
 
Honestly, this vote is a hard one to make and given what we know. Either can go wildly different directions depending on how we act.

What sways my vote towards the Blessed Host is actually quite simple. We need a way to provide for our family as well, something that will be far less certain if we go lone wolf, especially as we need to eat an extrordainary amount of food for a Rookie. Revenge is certainly something that we will strive all of our efforts towards, and getting a more powerful evolution certainly is something that we want. However, joining the Blessed Host merely delays our growth not out potential, if even that I mean an organisation such as theirs would normally be quite chuffed about recruits that are so willing to gain strength. Moreover, we can get our few Spider bois to have a safe shelter, secure constant supply of food, protection, and a place where there are mon mer versed in training than we ourselves ever could be.

I mean we're not exactly going ot be training programming, or any skills that require high levels of expertise on our own. At least not without significant amounts of effort.

[X] Pledge to Sparks that you'll join him to delete Count and his servants. After all, you were planning to delete them all anyway. However, point out that Lunamon and Thresh are still alive. The two of you need to save them as well, and if you don't make it with whatever time you have left... You'll need his help to do it.

I will say this though, if it turns out much worse than we expected we can always attempt to extract ourselves from their ranks.
 
Sparks headspace is pretty much shattered right now he needs an anchor and we are all he has got left if we leave him he might degenerate even further.
 
First and foremost, choosing this option gives Verge the most growth in abilities and power, ensuring that he will most definitely have a powerful champion form, not a mediocre one or god forbid by some strings of horrible decision making Numemon.
What evidence at all do you have to support this? Besides your own belief?
Secondly something that people might have realised this could have the effect of saving Sparks life, while it might seem like fear mongering hear me out.

Pledging to Sparks means that he will inevitably be there during the fight against the Count and Repulsa, which lets face it could lead to his death, depending on what choices have been made, and I believe that this is one of them.

While this could be averted even if we pledged ourselves to him, well, pledging would definitely raise a death flag to Sparks.
Sparks intends to go after them anyway. If we're there with him along the way, that means we can help him get his head on straight again, and make sure that he doesn't commit suicide by Ultimate.
Third and finally, Sparks said he would join the Blessed host, which according to Verge's past life had their leader Seraphimon wipe out a city, which Verge was affiliated with, I feel that they are pretty much suspicious and possible antagonist in this quest, which meant that joining up with them could be considerably dangerous for Verge, I feel it is better for Verge to stay unaffiliated until new information reveals itself.
Right now we don't know what the actual Host is like. Also, @drexal15 has implied that if we try to go to Alt City in order to join up at their stronghold, Verge and the Kodokugumon likely wouldn't be accepted due to their viral natures, which would force Sparks to make the choice again. He'll have had time to calm down some, and hopefully we'll have steadied emotionally as well. We may be able to take the Third Option at that point without actually joining the Host. Conjecture, I know, but no more than most of your own.
 
Yeah, I honestly forgot about culinary needs. at least with the Host we'll be guaranteed our needed three squares a day, plus extra training most likely.
Besides, Count wanted to add us to his 'collection', so joining the Host can also be seen as a means of rebelling against him. plus it gives us good odds of actually managing to stake the bastard.
 
What evidence at all do you have to support this? Besides your own belief?
I can confirm that it will lead to Verge trying to get personal power more than the other option.
Right now we don't know what the actual Host is like. Also, @drexal15 has implied that if we try to go to Alt City in order to join up at their stronghold, Verge and the Kodokugumon likely wouldn't be accepted due to their viral natures, which would force Sparks to make the choice again. He'll have had time to calm down some, and hopefully we'll have steadied emotionally as well. We may be able to take the Third Option at that point without actually joining the Host. Conjecture, I know, but no more than most of your own.
Considering that Alt City is pretty much on the other side of the continent, it's not soemthing Verge has to worry about.
 
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