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No idea about Defector, but I suspect Bereave may be Indigo.

Indigo is also supposed to take place in 'The Boys' comic universe. I'm actually kind of excited.

Zoat, would an Indigo ring allow Paul to render the Compound V (I think it's called. Basically it's the thing in The Boys that gives superpowers. Developed by the Nazis.) in someone's body inert?

Because if Paul can do that, he's either become someone Butcher would want on his side quite badly or a threat all the supers would band against if they knew an Indigo Paul could depower them.
 
Based on my limited knowledge of that setting, Sweeney Todd's Maxim is in full effect; everything is so utterly, needlessly fucked and grimderp that you could drop a planet-buster on the thing and little of value would be lost.

Hopefully Indigaul has managed to improve matters.
 
specifically he monologued info he would want the league to have, namely that he's not doing this willingly and that if pushed he can kill them in there sleep.

It helps that the Anti-Green Ring is apparently obliged by its programming to allow him to give away sensitive information to its enemies, as long as its done as a part of an Evil Monologue.

"Pitiful so-called heroes, you will never be able to free me from the slavery to my Master-Ring, no matter how much this poor slave would want it to happen. Muahahahaha!"

"Foolish fools, you are too foolish to even know that my Master is weak to [...]. Not that fools like you could ever make use of that!"
 
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So, it looks like the League only went to the effort of finding and capturing Ra's when it became clear someone was going to kill him... FFS, Batman, Talia's supposedly of some use in OL-timeline, but what's your excuse this time? If you had fewer enemies you'd end up having to do something actually productive with your time?
 
It helps that the Anti-Green Ring is apparently obliged by its programming to allow him to give away sensitive information to its enemies, as long as its done as a part of an Evil Monologue.

"Pitiful heroes, you will never be able to free me from the slavery to my Master-Ring, no matter how much it would please this slave. Mwha-ha-ha-ha!"

If I were an evil Qward programmer implementing the Anti-Green Ring, I would probably allow just about anything, so long as it prompted interesting data. Slave rings and meatbags to wear them don't cost much, especially since they don't come with a Lantern or equivalent power source.

So long as you cut out any active subversion attempts and keep the bearer running around, you can probably get more data by allowing your opponents to become involved and informed. The ring is probably scanning passively almost all the time and sending reports as it goes. Assuming Qwardtech allows comms back to a remote server the current opponents can't or don't think to block, they can send packets up to the bitter end, then ensure destruction of slave and ring with an explosive that requires active measures to maintain stability, like N8, metallic hydrogen, or bottled antimatter. If other qwardtech is around, it can maintain the stability for a compromised or depleted ring, but if someone manages it out in the field, boom.
 
Zoat, would an Indigo ring allow Paul to render the Compound V (I think it's called. Basically it's the thing in The Boys that gives superpowers. Developed by the Nazis.) in someone's body inert?
Vogelbaum wasn't a Nazi. He defected to the US not long after he made Stormfront and (given that the Nazis didn't appear to ever use superhumans) probably destroyed his records before he left.
Because if Paul can do that, he's either become someone Butcher would want on his side quite badly or a threat all the supers would band against if they knew an Indigo Paul could depower them.
Other parts covered in the story.
 
So, it looks like the League only went to the effort of finding and capturing Ra's when it became clear someone was going to kill him... FFS, Batman, Talia's supposedly of some use in OL-timeline, but what's your excuse this time? If you had fewer enemies you'd end up having to do something actually productive with your time?

I can't get a full reading form the latest update if Talia was in the know herself and just acted or not, but if she was, then she could have been the one to bring Batman in when it became clear that they can't handle it alone and his father is going to die otherwise.

Or Batman could have been following the trail Paul left, as he was tracking down and killing the League of Shadows.

As for how Bruce got there first in the second case, well, it's probably easier to convince an evil slave-driving alien Power Ring that you need sleep, than for Batman to convince himself that so does he.
 
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Vogelbaum wasn't a Nazi. He defected to the US not long after he made Stormfront and (given that the Nazis didn't appear to ever use superhumans) probably destroyed his records before he left.

Other parts covered in the story.

Awesome idea: Indigo Paul emerges over Boys Earth shortly before the comic starts and is on the scene during the super fight in England where Wee Hughie loses his girlfriend when A-Train splatters her. At the end of the fight, seeing A-Train displaying a close to disinterested attitude towards the death of a Muggle Indigo scans and depowers him.

A-Train is in denial up until the local police find out they can actually arrest the bastard.

Cue everyone losing their shit if this was televised. Voight-American (spelling?) I don't know. Might send some of their Red River operatives against him rather than risk more supers being depowered.

Thoughts?
 
I know. I couldn't find a picture which showed what I wanted. Parallax was close, but he's got that weird sort of non-armour on his legs, and the white hair. Imagine a uniform like the one shown, but with dull green instead of blue.
I have only just realised that the image I linked to is a Parallax recolour with a head transplant. Give me a moment...

Ah. There we go.
 
I can't get a full reading form the latest update if Talia was in the know herself and just acted or not, but if she was, then she could have been the one to bring Batman in when it became clear that they can't handle it alone and his father is going to die otherwise.

Or Batman could have been following the trail Paul left, as he was tracking down and killing the League of Shadows.

As for how Bruce got there first in the second case, well, it's probably easier to convince an evil slave-driving alien Power Ring that you need sleep, than for Batman to convince himself that so does he.
It's still a problem, because;

- Ra's al Ghul was a mass-murdering criminal and
- Batman knew of and opposed Ra's yet
- Ra's was still an active threat until
- Someone not!Batman began rapidly dismantling the League of Shadows therefore
- Batman somehow finds, abducts and replaces Ra's al Ghul before the newcomer can even arrive

The facts have some ugly implications as to Batman's motivations.
 
It's still a problem, because;

- Ra's al Ghul was a mass-murdering criminal and
- Batman knew of and opposed Ra's yet
- Ra's was still an active threat until
- Someone not!Batman began rapidly dismantling the League of Shadows therefore
- Batman somehow finds, abducts and replaces Ra's al Ghul before the newcomer can even arrive

The facts have some ugly implications as to Batman's motivations.

I think you are both over (first 4 points) and underestimating (the last one) Batman here.

So maybe:

- Batman was simply unable to find Ra's al Ghul before, because Ra's has been playing the game far longer than he has and was simply better at it.
- If Talia didn't just tell him, then someone not!Batman beginning to dismantle the League of Shadows in a way they did was exactly what allowed him to find Ra's, by going over what was left in the scenes after Paul was done and looking for connections between the dead.
- Paul pretty much explicitly mentions that he has been taking things as slow as he is allowed to and has recently been given the privilege of sleep again; and Batman with Justice League resources is not exactly tied down to mundane transport either.
 
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- Paul pretty much explicitly mentions that he has been taking things as slow as he is allowed to and has recently been given the privilege of sleep again; and Batman with Justice League resources is not exactly tied down to mundane transport either.
Being allowed to sleep was quite recent, and as for mundane transport, would that be better or worse than Faster-Than-Light transitioning?
- Batman was simply unable to find Ra's al Ghul before, because Ra's has been playing the game far longer than he has and was simply better at it.
Ra's personal bodyguards are mentioned as having fought Batman before - by AntiPaul, so it's slightly unreliable, but if they've never met that only makes this sudden display of competence even worse.
- If Talia didn't just tell him, then someone not!Batman beginning to dismantle the League of Shadows in a way they did was exactly what allowed him to find Ra's, by going over what was left in the scenes after Paul was done and looking for connections between the dead.
Except no, because all PaulGreenie would have likely done is transition in and burn their heart out. Even if Batman catches on to the admittedly unusual murders spread all over the states and starts investigating, there isn't any more evidence than there was to start with - he'd still have to investigate and work his way up the chain.

Paul was several steps ahead, knew who he was going after, and had Power Ring-derived hacking and tracking abilities, so while I'm not saying Batman's unable to match that effort - in fact, I'm noting the opposite - that Bruce went from zero to finish faster than Paul can only suggest his previous efforts were not so dedicated.

To put their roles in somewhat-less fantastical terms, if I knew that an officer of the law was a lot more dedicated to or talented at saving the lives of serial killers than actually stopping them - especially when the skills to do so are the same - then I would have some serious concerns about the motivations of that officer and the suitability of his service.
 
Is paul using that every time though? He has to conserve charge.
Well, it is true that so far in this latest chapter he used a scramjet construct to try and escape, rather than an FTL transition, which would be a lot more reliable. Then again, he doesn't seem to have any worries about how much charge he has, which seems odd considering how much more power he's expending today...
 
Except no, because all PaulGreenie would have likely done is transition in and burn their heart out. Even if Batman catches on to the admittedly unusual murders spread all over the states and starts investigating, there isn't any more evidence than there was to start with - he'd still have to investigate and work his way up the chain.

Paul was several steps ahead, knew who he was going after, and had Power Ring-derived hacking and tracking abilities, so while I'm not saying Batman's unable to match that effort - in fact, I'm noting the opposite - that Bruce went from zero to finish faster than Paul can only suggest his previous efforts were not so dedicated.

Paul mentioned that the intelligence services had likely figured out who it were that he was killing, so quite likely did Batman. And even just finding out names he didn't know before allows Batman to search for connections between them to track assets.

Also, it would stand to reason that some of those databases Paul found were near the Shadows he killed. There's nothing saying Paul destroyed them after, so Batman might have found them following the bodies and hacked them too.

Also, nothing says that Batman started from zero, he just didn't know enough to directly pinpoint to Ra's. Following after Paul who was using methods Bruce would be unable and unwilling to use might have given Batman the last pieces he needed and, being a lot better detective, made the connections before Paul did.

To put their roles in somewhat-less fantastical terms, if I knew that an officer of the law was a lot more dedicated to or talented at saving the lives of serial killers than actually stopping them - especially when the skills to do so are the same - then I would have some serious concerns about the motivations of that officer and the suitability of his service.

It would be more accurate to say that Batman is more dedicated to stopping murderous vigilantes, than murderous supervillains.

Batman is afraid he would snap if he killed someone. He might feel, that if he didn't stop someone, who he actually wouldn't mind dying, from getting murdered, that he is also responsible, because he might have held back subconsciously, to let someone else do his dirty work. So he gives his 110% into stopping it.

And yeah, it varies depending on the work, but most of the time it's basically canon that he is almost as damaged as his rogues gallery in many ways, he has just found a more moral and constructive way to channel it. But yeah, no realistic police force would hire Bruce, after taking one look at his psych profile.
 
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