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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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I'm sure it's been noted before, but the Anti-Green Lantern Corps ring reminds me of a fusion of the Silver Age yellow ring and Volthoom from Morrison's JLA Earth 2 and Johns's Forever Evil.

Cool story, the idea that while Paul remains Paul no matter the universe, his circumstances dictates his actions and beliefs to an even greater extent. Nurture is perhaps more powerful than nature
 
Mr Zoat said:
Chaps, I thought that I made it clear that no one should make references which I don't understand.
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There are those who would say that the Star Wars prequels are set to be released at the same time as the second and third Matrix movies. Which, these people will attest, have not been made. Also, that anyone who believes that any such film already exists is a lying liar who lies and/or has terrible taste.
 
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The Anti-Life equation fragment's assault on the Renegade's soul was damaging. I though that passage made that fairly clear.
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Yes, it was damaging, but overall it seemed to do more good than harm; the beneficial effect from neutering the Grayven part of his mind outweighs the damage from its direct effect on him.

How exactly is giving someone he can reasonably expect to be grateful towards him super powers idiotic? Unwise, possibly, but the yellow rings gives him an instinct for fear so he had a reasonable idea how'd she'd behave in the short term.
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Unwise and idiotic are the same thing, to slightly different degrees.

Giving her super-powers is unwise/idiotic because he doesn't know her well enough to have a good idea about how she might use them. He didn't even warn her that if she misuses the powers he'll find out and eventually go after her.
 
Lordamnesia said:
She searched him out, offered everything she was, and then he decides to make her able to do it herself (which costs him exactly nothing but the couple of minutes it took to do it), and in the end he has a loyal new parahuman that takers her que's from him.
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Yes, she's grateful to him, and that leads to some level of loyalty, but it's not really a high enough level of loyalty that he can expect her to obey him or to not cause any trouble. Some kinds of loyalty may even make trouble more likely (what if she thinks Jade is bad for Grayven and attacks her?)

Also, even a completely loyal minion can cause trouble because of stupidity, which happened to Light in the actual series. (It's only Danner formula which affects intelligence, right? Though having Misa gain intelligence would be interesting.)
 
arromdee said:
Also, even a completely loyal minion can cause trouble because of stupidity, which happened to Light in the actual series. (It's only Danner formula which affects intelligence, right?
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I'm not aware of the Danner formula making anyone smart.

The Garrick formula can kind of fake it though, by allowing super-fast thinking.
 
Is Zoat going through Spectrum colours for each alternate universe?, if he is I'm actually worried to see a Black Lantern timeline.

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Can I also be a part of the PM please?.
I'd like to know what happened at the Source Wall, all my knowledge of the scene comes from reading some comments.

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Will Rayner realise that Slave!Paul is doing this against his will?.
 
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Ploong. Ownership transfer acknowledged. I leave the employ of Torture and pass into the service of Conquest.
Ploong. Conquest, you appear to have been greviously injured in mind, body and soul. Would you like some help with that?
Ploong. Ah, a power ring. I studied a great many of these while in the service of Torture. It can handle the body aspect.
Ploong. My reserves of Apokoliptian spiritual energy are insufficient to fully restore your soul. If I open a boom tube-. No? In that case I can do a partial restoration. I am sure that Conquest can rebuild himself from local energies, given time.
Ploong. A good many memories appear to be missing. I do not have a memory state copy and so cannot do a full restore. But I can reintroduce information I know he would have had. And delete-. No? In that case, I will simply insert the data and allow them to gradually displace the false memories.
Ploong. Human technology using the Anti-Life? Trying to infest Conquest? I think not.
Ploong. Great darkseid, it's full of stars!
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I'd like to know what happened at the Source Wall, all my knowledge of the scene comes from reading some comments.
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Then I suggest reading the story.
Will Rayner realise that Slave!Paul is doing this against his will?.
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I'm sure that Lantern Stewart will inform him.
 
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No, it was clear from Earth 2 (the last time that ring featured in anything) that it isn't particularly serious and never shuts up.
 
I picture Indigo-Paul as the prisoner-turned-medic of the Secret Society, or Injustice League, or Legion of Doom, etc.

To be fair, a lot of DC villains "had one bad day" that started their slippery slope into villainy, so Lex Luthor or Gorilla Grodd might play on Indigo-Paul's bleeding heart sympathies to keep him captive and under control. Much like Panacea and Othalla in "Worm", a healer is priceless to people who get beat up fighting/committing crime and don't want to spend months recovering from injuries.

Question: What's the opposite of Florence Nightingale Syndrome when you develop feelings for your doctor, nurse, or caretaker? Cheetah, Giganta, Killer Frost, etc.

Link: Emergency Transformation - TV Tropes

Other possibilities: Indigo-Paul is injured when the Justice League attacks the Secret Society's HQ. Cheetah performs an emergency transformation* on him to save his life at the expense of turning him into a cat-man.

*The JLU version of Cheetah was a scientist who tested her theories on herself, putting her life on the line for the sake of developing new medicine.

Cheetah: "Do you hate me for doing this to you?"
Catman!Indigo-Paul: (flexing in front of a mirror) "Sorry, I can't hear you over how ripped I look. I could grate cheese on these abs."
Killer Frost: :eyeroll:
Catwoman: "Me-ow!"
Cheetah: :rage:"Back off, I have first dibs!"

 
Hmm. It doesn't actually seem like it'd be that hard to get the Ring away from Anti-Paul. So long as he can justify what he's doing it doesn't seem to care.

Odd that it insists in being called "Master" but it doesn't seem to care if he tries to escape.

Basically, confront Jordan when he's on full charge and you're on half, then ask him to cut your hand off. What follows will surely suck, but if you survive it, you'll be free.

Not sure what was up with the Lasurus Pit comments, but presumably the Anti-ring can't fight without a bearer and we've seen power-rings being destroyed on panel before. Leave it to Jordan. Maybe make sure there's a bunch of other Heroes around to give him the edge.
 
Jetsmillion said:
I can actually think of a worse super power: Not being able to die. Nothing else, you age, you can be hurt, starve and can even be dismembered, but you just wont die.
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Eesh. Even Mr. Immortal (of Marvel Comics) doesn't have that power. Also, congrats on bringing up the ability everyone on Earth gets in Torchwood: Miracle Day.
 
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