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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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The whole "Stable time loop of OL" thing has been brought up before, I believe.

It's possible, but I feel unlikely.
 
Does there exist in the Young Justice universe the technology to make a 3d printer that can make all the parts of a 3d printer? If you make the the world really changes.

I think there were self replicating drones in justice league unlimited.
 
fictionfan said:
Does there exist in the Young Justice universe the technology to make a 3d printer that can make all the parts of a 3d printer? If you make the the world really changes.
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Not really. It certainly makes 3d printers and the things they can make cheaper, but it doesn't change the cost of collecting and refining the materials needed. Also, even if a 3d printer can make something, it doesn't mean that it is he best way to produce it on an industrial scale.
fictionfan said:
I think there were self replicating drones in justice league unlimited.
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Dark Heart, I believe the first episode of season 3.
 
Yubel said:
Has anyone tried to apply a word count to this story?
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Hye said:
Oh thank god:cry:

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I'm guessing... a 190K wordcount. Mostly based on how his newer chapters are around 1k to 1.5k. His older ones felt a bit longer, but that might have been because i could just binge-read them. Good times.
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Season 1 is 721.717 words while Season 2 as of 2 weeks ago is 469.667 so over all 1.191.384 words as of 2 weeks ago
 
Yubel said:
Has anyone tried to apply a word count to this story?
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Hye said:
I'm guessing... a 190K wordcount. Mostly based on how his newer chapters are around 1k to 1.5k. His older ones felt a bit longer, but that might have been because i could just binge-read them. Good times.
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Well, seeing as how updates are average about 1k words, and Zoat first posted WtR on August 14, 2013, and with an update a day, that's.... coming up to or pass a cool million words. Which is incredible, terrifying, and awesome! Way to go Zoat!

Edit: Imp'ed by Chris6666!
 
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Mr Zoat said:
but at one point the SI gains access to a time machine.
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And just like everyone else who gets access to time travel he (or at least one version of him) manages to screw up the timeline.

Wonder how many of his friends got recognisable counterparts in the new world?

Mr Zoat said:
No. Proper RPG, where what you do can change the state of the world and there are a slew of divergent ending possibilities.
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With ten thousand lines, reactivity and consequences?
 
If, and that's a big if, I run MM, there aren't actual classes. Everything is made piece by piece.

It leads to some insanely overpowered shit if the GM isn't careful.
 
Chris6666 said:
Season 1 is 721.717 words while Season 2 as of 2 weeks ago is 469.667 so over all 1.191.384 words as of 2 weeks ago
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Lordamnesia said:
Well, seeing as how updates are average about 1k words, and Zoat first posted WtR on August 14, 2013, and with an update a day, that's.... coming up to or pass a cool million words. Which is incredible, terrifying, and awesome! Way to go Zoat!

Edit: Imp'ed by Chris6666!
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For comparison purposes, the King James Bible has ~775,000 words.
 
Mr Zoat said:
No, it wasn't a joke.

I think I've mentioned it before, but at one point the SI gains access to a time machine. One of the things the game allows you to do with it is travel back to just after Diana leaves Themyscira for the first time. If the SI hands her records of exactly what the Nazis get up to in the original timeline she chooses not to accompany Steven Trevor to America and instead stays in Greece, mounting a vigorous campaign of resistance against the German and Italian occupiers. Young and inexperienced as she was, conventional forces proved singularly incapable of stopping her and the Nazis were forced to dispatch the Kriegers from the eastern front to deal with her.

Captain Nazi's first fight with her resulted in a double knockout. He was stronger but she was trained to fight people her own strength. During her recovery she became more closely affiliated with the Greek resistance movement (which fortunately included at least one person who spoke classical Greek, since she didn't speak any modern languages). Their second bout took place in Athens, as Wolf tried to use the Spear of Destiny to extend the Nazis control area over Greece. That one resulted in Diana fighting them both, killing them and taking the Spear for herself.

At that point things stalemated. The Nazis knew they couldn't push into Greece and she couldn't risk leaving. However, she was now undisputed head of the Greek government in Greece. Furthermore, her prayers in the Olympians with the Spear in hand began working its magic across the country and generally drawing her gods' attention to their former people. Olympian deities began appearing to people in their dreams, offering guidance and divine aid.

With no control area, the Nazis faced increased raids by Allied superhumans, culminating in a blitz on Berlin in 1943 which destroyed the German government and effectively ended the war in Europe. The Amazon contribution was lead by Queen Hippolyta in person and contained every demigoddess on Themyscira, which resulted in the rest of the world assuming that all Amazons had those abilities. The significance of the fact that the Amazon contingent made up a third of the force was lost on no one.

Post war, given the choice between a monarch who fled and the warrior demigoddess who saved their country, the Greek people hailed Diana as Queen. Something which she found a little awkward when she had to inform her mother.

When the SI returns the the present, he finds it much changed. Firstly, the Justice Society never closed down and had effectively expanded to fulfill the role the Justice League had in the original timeline. Diana still rules Greece, and is married to an uncorrupted Sara Smart. Alan's inhumanity is more obvious and he uses green speech marks. Harold Jordan never became a Green Lantern, and Abin Sur was more than a little shocked to discover that his ring thought Alan was a Guardian. Superhuman defence and study is more advanced while conventional weapons development is more retarded.
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I don't see why it'd change the timeline though, rather than changing it there should be a new one entirely. I'd always expect going back in the past to create an alternate universe while going in the future to just be skipping a step in that universe time.
Mr Zoat said:
The rest of the explanation is directly above your question. I thought it was fairly complete.
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Well it defnitely made your answer a lot more clear, though the reason the answer was weird in first place was because you mentionned how you could meet someone who has it rather than telling its uses.

Still even then it doesn't really answer how having it would help with a new guardian build or what a new guardian build even entails. Avarice enlightenment seems pretty straight forward, you gotta accept that what you want is only a part of the whole to gain it. It offers a general empathic vision with a focus on avarice itself, it allows one to be perfectly aware of their avarice and the reasons for it at all time, it increases one affinity with the light of avarice, it mostly nullifies its negative side effects and it makes the soul a bit stronger.

But will isn't exactly something that you feel, it's more something that you do, so I'm not sure what the proccess would be to gain it unlike avarice. Even what you could see about will with a specialized empathic vision seems unclear, there's really a reason for someone to have it, it's just there. The same applies if you turn it inward, but I guess that it could offer a kind of absolute certainty where you simply don't needlessly doubt yourself and are always ready to make a decision with the information you have. Anyway the question is what part of this theory is correct and what's missing.
 
Silveraith said:
I enjoyed this segment enough to like it. I'm somewhat surprised how much I agree with their outlook on super-criminals.
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This seems wrong. Everyone should be liking every post @Mr Zoat makes in this thread on general principle. Because he updates with new content every day, which is awesome, and deserves all the likes you can give. He need 100,000+ more posts to become the highest rated person on SV.

Why aren't you doing your part? It isn't like it costs you to like a post...
 
Mr Zoat said:
The rest of the explanation is directly above your question. I thought it was fairly complete.

The SI is perfectly capable of creating that timeline. However, given the significant changes that would be created (including probably unexisting Kon) he most likely would chose not to.
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It's interesting how Kon's existance is the first thing on his mind. My mind was on alan 's possible family. Is there something you or Paul would like to tell us? Hmm?:p:p:p
 
GodKiller999 said:
Still even then it doesn't really answer how having it would help with a new guardian build or what a new guardian build even entails.
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A New Guardian build is a Green light user with the Green Light qualities the Guardians have, as opposed to just being a Green Lantern.

The Queen Diana quest path unlocks it because in that timeline, the Justice Society never disbands. With an intact JS, Alan has friends who keep calling on him, and never has more than a 10 min retirement instead of setting aside the ring for decades. This advances his Green Light conversion, and his Green Light attunement.

The Rehabilitation Prison never closes because even though the scandal happens and America pulls out briefly, Diana is Queen of Greece, and it stays as a Greek/Amazon effort. Alan's Green Light skills eventually advance enough that he can weave Green light selectively into another, and uses this to strengthen the Willpower of his wife's personality, and it eventually takes back control permanently. The prison has more successes after, and the American who spearheaded the pull out ends up looking like a Nervous Nancy. His political opponent uses its success against him at election time, and after he looses America re-enters the program to save face and strengthen relations with the Amazons and Greece.

Alan eventually learns to use Green Light without Power Ring or Lantern like a Guardian. When Abin Suir send out the seeker program, and since Alan is more Green Light then anything else, it recognizes him as a Guardian, and he has full access to it's database to repair his ring.

In the new timeline OL gets the Lantern because Alan no longer needs it, And can make a new one anyway if needed. OL is his apprentice for a year directly instead of Diana as he is still an active hero. He never meets Ophidian, but learns to use Green Light (since it can reinforce all colors) to keep the Orange light from making him crazy.
 
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