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A New Guardian build is a Green light user with the Green Light qualities the Guardians have, as opposed to just being a Green Lantern.
That kind of means nothing. It's like if I said "A new magic user is an arcane magic user with the arcane qualities wizards have, as opposed to just being a magic user."
The Queen Diana quest path unlocks it because in that timeline, the Justice Society never disbands. With an intact JS, Alan has friends who keep calling on him, and never has more than a 10 min retirement instead of setting aside the ring for decades. This advances his Green Light conversion, and his Green Light attunement.

The Rehabilitation Prison never closes because even though the scandal happens and America pulls out briefly, Diana is Queen of Greece, and it stays as a Greek/Amazon effort. Alan's Green Light skills eventually advance enough that he can weave Green light selectively into another, and uses this to strengthen the Willpower of his wife's personality, and it eventually takes back control permanently. The prison has more successes after, and the American who spearheaded the pull out ends up looking like a Nervous Nancy. His political opponent uses its success against him at election time, and after he looses America re-enters the program to save face and strengthen relations with the Amazons and Greece.

Alan eventually learns to use Green Light without Power Ring or Lantern like a Guardian. When Abin Suir send out the seeker program, and since Alan is more Green Light then anything else, it recognizes him as a Guardian, and he has full access to it's database to repair his ring.

In the new timeline OL gets the Lantern because Alan no longer needs it, And can make a new one anyway if needed. OL is his apprentice for a year directly instead of Diana as he is still an active hero.
Well that's entirely possible, but it's entirely speculation on your part so I don't see why you'd talk about it as if it was a fact rather than a theory of yours.
He never meets Ophidian, but learns to use Green Light (since it can reinforce all colors) to keep the Orange light from making him crazy.
Since when does green light reforce all colors? I doubt he could 'will himself' to not go crazy.
 
Well that's entirely possible, but it's entirely speculation on your part so I don't see why you'd talk about it as if it was a fact rather than a theory of yours.

You know that thing where you act as if the story was a game you could play? That was what I was doing. I have no idea what would happen in a hypothetical timeline Zoat has not and may never write.
 
It was lacking in video game speech so it seemed more of a lore entry than a game experience retelling.
Zoat's explanation of the 'Queen Diana' timeline was a hypothetical one, expanded from his original comment which was in the vein of the 'game' joke. Thus, Bramble's comment continued that tradition of bullshitting a hypothetical plot, even though he technically wasn't talking about video games. Understanding the tone required knowledge of the video game joke and following the thread of conversation, so I could understand that you might have missed relevant details.
 
This seems wrong. Everyone should be liking every post @Mr Zoat makes in this thread on general principle. Because he updates with new content every day, which is awesome, and deserves all the likes you can give. He need 100,000+ more posts to become the highest rated person on SV.

Why aren't you doing your part? It isn't like it costs you to like a post...
I can like this story without liking every post. Look on your user page at the 'Like's given to 'Like's received and notice the ratio. I only like something if I really like it or enjoy it. I only give a 'Funny' if a comment actually makes me laugh for example.

Mr Zoat will get to whatever 'Like' goal he's set out i a matter of time, with or without my help. He has enough fanatics and personal dedication for it.
 
Personally I never got into the time travel quests much. I found the requirements to bring about a specific timeline annoying, just kept accidentally punching one wrong guy or bystander and ending up having to go through the "reset the timeline" quest constantly. And it's so heavily weighted towards ridiculously hard ones that it just isn't worth it for me. How was I supposed to know the art museum was critical to the Nazis losing? Or that the random bystander dying meant Constantine never gets a patsy for one of his arcs and therefore Hell takes over Earth (which can get mystics some cool options, but I tend toward stealth based metahuman builds)?

You effectively need a guide and to be extraordinarily careful actually doing anything if you're going for a specific unlock. I can see what they were going for, but it's hell to navigate, especially if you're used to using AoE or crowd control. And that's before we get into stuff where it's obviously taunting you with side quests and easy experience points. Like that one thug in Gotham who is obviously mugging people frequently but if you take him down it causes you to have to deal with a shattered earth timeline because of Batman never being a thing.
 
I think I've mentioned it before, but at one point the SI gains access to a time machine.
Ow, ow, ow, ow!

Ow.

I know that that DC has a... fluid, relationship with how Time works, but...

How does Paul travel back in Time if the Timeline changes sufficiently that; in the new Timeline he would no longer would have the same motivation, reasoning or perhaps even methods to go back in time?

Does the Time Machine he acquires kick him outside of Time permanently? Or does it somehow maintain a temporal paradox?
 
Zoat's explanation of the 'Queen Diana' timeline was a hypothetical one, expanded from his original comment which was in the vein of the 'game' joke. Thus, Bramble's comment continued that tradition of bullshitting a hypothetical plot, even though he technically wasn't talking about video games. Understanding the tone required knowledge of the video game joke and following the thread of conversation, so I could understand that you might have missed relevant details.
Ah I see why I missed it.
No, it wasn't a joke.

I think I've mentioned it before, but at one point the SI gains access to a time machine. One of the things the game allows you to do
I hadn't noticed that when reading the post initially, plus with Zoat responding that it wasn't a joke to my asking further confused me Thread be getting so meta jokes and facts have just become one big mess. Truly Zoat is a professional at immersing us in the abomination called british 'humor'.
 
I read that hypotehtical Queen Diana timeline, and the main question it provoked in me was, "Why Sara Smart?"

Not that giving her a better fate than the shit show she got in canon isn't an objectively good thing, it just seems weird that that's the person who'd end up with Queen Diana out of all other potential candidates.
 
I read that hypotehtical Queen Diana timeline, and the main question it provoked in me was, "Why Sara Smart?"

Not that giving her a better fate than the shit show she got in canon isn't an objectively good thing, it just seems weird that that's the person who'd end up with Queen Diana out of all other potential candidates.
She's immortal and superpowered, for one.
 
I read that hypothetical Queen Diana timeline, and the main question it provoked in me was, "Why Sara Smart?"

Not that giving her a better fate than the shit show she got in canon isn't an objectively good thing, it just seems weird that that's the person who'd end up with Queen Diana out of all other potential candidates.
Simple enough. They met in Berlin and kept in touch, giving Sara her first exposure to hard core feminism. When her parents died as per the original timeline and the social workers tried sending her to an orphanage she point blank refused to comply while requesting Diana's help. With Greek government involvement those who refused to believe her about her age got a clue. Sara ended up moving to Greece, joining the Society and as the years went by she and Diana got closer.
 
Date Night (part 18)
31st March
17:56 GMT +2


"…like to see more a' her, but you know how much time this job takes."

Guy and I descend through the air towards the entrance to the entrance to Dyrehavsbakken, which apparently is the world's oldest operating amusement park. He's wearing a green shirt with a suit jacket and trousers in a slightly darker green, and as a result looks a little like a Leprechaun bodybuilder.

"I will in three months, yes."

I'm wearing fawn trousers with an orange sigil belt buckle along with a blue shirt under a darker blue jumper. Not exactly warm at this time of the year and while neither Guy nor I have secret identities I doubt the evening would be improved by us being pestered for autographs or some sort of performance.

"Oh yeah." He frowns slightly as we touch down behind some streets just off the main road. "What you planning to do when your probation runs out? Just head off out there, straight to Maltus?"

"No, I was thinking about visiting Vega first. Get the lay of the land in one of the few places John's ring didn't have up to date information."

He glances at me with a raised left eyebrow. "And run right int' that Larfleeze guy? That really a good idea?"

I shrug. "I have the Sword of Second and Third. If it really comes down to it I can probably kill him."

"Why's it called that again?"

"What, the sword?" He nods as we come out onto the pavement and turn towards the amusement park. "Because it was made from the remains of the Second of the Fallen and the Third of the Fallen to kill the First of the Fallen."

"So… Why don't ya just call it the Sword of the Fallen?"



"Um."

He smirks. "Didn't think of it, did ya?"



"No."

Smirk has evolved into Grin. And learned Beam.

"Anyway, I'm not sure who would win in a direct fight between myself and Larfleeze, but I need to know he's not assimilating the whole population of Okaara or something like that."

"Okay, so you have a look around. Then what?"

"See what needs doing. Do it. Gordanians, Psions, Spider Guild, Branx Warriors… As I understand it, the place is a bit of a mess."

He nods approvingly. "Okay! Now you're talkin' like a real Sector Lantern."

"Might even-" I hold up my right hand and have the ring sparkle. "-pick up a recruit."

"Yeah, the guy I got this suit from said somethin' about that. You really lend it to that assassin girl?"

"Yes, and she did an excellent-."

"Hey." He fans out his hands. "I ain't complaining. She did good work. I had t' have Kilowog shout'n at me fer a few weeks before I could even create constructs." He regards me curiously. "You, ah… Plannin' on takin' her with you?"

"Probably not. It's three months away and I want her to have a chance to experience normalcy before making that kind of decision."

"Y'know, sometimes you can give a girl too much space."

"Alright. First one to make a romantic relationship last a year wins."

"Psh. I've got a four month head start and even I ain't dumb enough to mess things up with Tora."

"One year continuous. Break up for a fortnight and it's back to the start."

"You're on. But I ain't worried." We reach the park entrance and come to a halt. "Where do we buy the tickets?"

"We don't. Entrance is free and you buy tickets or armbands at the kiosks for rides. It's probably easiest if we wait for Ms Olafsdotter and f-."

"You ain't actually gunna call her that, right?"

"Tora and friend, then buy armbands." Guy nods, then looks around, then checks his watch. "You could just scan-."

"Nah, that's just creepy. I don't want her thinkin' I'm looking over her shoulder the whole time." He tries looking through the crowds again. "Alright, so, what you gunna do when you're done sorting out Vega?"

"Maltus. If Larfleeze confronts me and I win, I'll pick up the Central Power Battery and go straight there. Um, can you.. tell me if Central Power Batteries have any sort of area effect I should know about?"

He screws up his face in thought. "I dunno. I always feel better bein' next t' the Green one, but that might just be 'cause it's the center of the whole Corps, y'know?"

"Well, anyway, I can't just leave it there. I'll have to take the risk. But otherwise, I think I'll probably try and meet up with a Darkstar inside Reach territory. Help them out, get an introduction. Then on to Maltus. What happens after that depends on the Controllers."

"What d'you want-"

"Hah."

"-to happen?"

"I want them to help me defeat Larfleeze without killing him. We will get Orange Lanterns who can't cope, who get overloaded like I nearly did a couple of times-."

"You did get overloaded."

"The Ophidian doesn't count. I mean, just normal usage. You remember when you and Diana talked to me after the thing with the intelligent Gorillas?"

He nods. "Yeah, I know what you mean."

"The rings the Guardians give you aren't green because they want to make your lives harder. Not going crazy is a pretty big bonus. And if we can help Larfleeze, we can help the others too. Anyway, then we'd transport the Orange Central Power Battery back to Maltus and start recruiting. Any Darkstars who can handle it, probably, and I've got a list of people I want to talk to."

"Yeah? Like who?"

"First would be Vril D-."

"Guy!"

We look around, and Guy smiles beatifically as Tora climbs out of the taxi and walks in our direction. I think she'd be running if the heels on her boots allowed it. Guy moves away from me and meets her half way, their arms wrapping around each other as Tora lays her head on his chest and he kisses her hair.

Aww.

Guess whoever I'm supposed to be escorting is still in the taxi. I head towards it, ready to open the door and help her out.

"Oh, hey." Guy and Tora separate a little, though I notice that he's holding her left hand in his right. "This is my friend Paul."

"Good evening, Tora. And whom do I have the pleasure of escorting this evening?"

Her eyes widen slightly as she sees me. "Ah. Oh!" She turns back towards the taxi as a woman with pale green hair gets out. "Bea-."

"Okay, so who did Gardner saddle me-?"

She stops as I step forwards. "Hello there."

She blinks, looking me over. "You're the guy who-."

"Giant cake, yes, I kn-."

"-put those eyes everywhere!"
 
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well its about fucking time someone remembers those damn eyes! :lol:rofl::lol

EDIT: what he said
 
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