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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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query said:
I do wonder if there is some sort of mental taboo preventing villains from realizing they can monetize their abilities or if it is just the result of poor choices and lack of education?
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A lot of it comes down to why they became super villains in the first place. Look at Snart here, as pragmatic as he is he's still defined by his desire to defeat the Flash. No other crime he commits is going to satisfy him as much as beating the Flash once and for all.

Astro City has two exceptionally well written stories that show this. Show 'Em All does a great job of showing the super villain mentality, while the Tarnished Angel arc highlights how easy it is for criminals to waste their opportunities and fall into a repeating cycle.
 
Hampsterpig said:
This is Paul we are talking about. He has done this multiple times before. Bane, Artemis and Jade, I'm sure there are others who I don't remember right at this moment. He deals with villains by giving them what they want, and then trying to steer them towards more productive lifestyles. Leonard wants a relationship with his mother, so Paul gave him that opportunity.
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Yes, but I'm saying why Leonard might be a bit unhappy about hearing that off that bat.
 
Mr Zoat said:
He looks at the guard escorting him for a moment, then sit down opposite me.
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Sits down
Mr Zoat said:
Then I realised that freezing people in place-."
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Realized, since he's American. Unless that's one of the things you use unilaterally like 'Whaw'. I honestly don't recall.
Mr Zoat said:
Um, I didn't refer to you as 'Captain Cold' when I spoke to them and its possible that the people I
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And it's possible

So is Date Night going to be similar to Widdershins in that there isn't a main 'quest', but simply an advancing of a number of subplots?
 
iamnuff said:
Then isn't OL wrong by calling it a "Freeze ray" in this chapter, rather than a Cold gun?

I know he made a big fuss about the distinction earlier, but I don't recall which is which.
Cold named his weapon the Cold Gun though, so...
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The big post about freeze rays versus cold/ice guns is back here. Freeze rays reduce temperature, but have no other effects, and are considered 'normal' tech both on Earth and in Green Lantern space. Cold/ice guns are more novel, and until recently were only supervillain tech (Victor Fries has a bulky and inelegant version, Leonard Snart's one is the most useful but has lower rate of fire). Snart's handheld stuff is universally cold/ice guns, since he doesn't like to kill, but he at least put some freeze rays on the Fortress since freeze rays are better built for making blizzards or fixing the polar ice cap.
 
GodKiller999 said:
By your logic you'd need to be a biochemist to train your muscles. He doesn't need to understand the process which allows him to go be a peak human to be one. Also it wouldn't make him a wizard, wizards make use of spellcasting, he's making use of his inner energy. It's not because the source of energy is magical/the soul that using it makes you a wizard.
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First of all, the definition of wizard is "a man with magical powers," so yes, if Batman is using magic to enhance his physical abilities he's a wizard, by definition, but thank you for playing. Bob, please let the studio audience know what the condolence prize is!

Second of all, you completely and utterly failed to understand my point actually, so since it apparently needs to be pointed out-

"Why do you think you can figure out Batman has superpowers, but Batman, a genius with superior resources to you, cannot?"
 
Honestly if I were wondering about the state of technology in the wide DC universe, I wouldn't go to Chance, a guy stuck in the smelly armpit of the galaxy 24/7.
 
query said:
I do wonder if there is some sort of mental taboo preventing villains from realizing they can monetize their abilities or if it is just the result of poor choices and lack of education?
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Not all of them, but certainly some have serious mental issues. There's a frame from a Spider-Man comic that illustrated it well:


Misty Power said:
I can't be the only one who read Snart's dialogue in Wentworth Miller's gorgeous voice, right? It makes the whole chapter even more amazing.
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I didn't, mainly because YJ-Snart is voiced by Alan Tudyk.
 
Conu said:
I wonder what Waller is making of this? Must take a few metal contortions to wrap her mind around a superhero who isn't a gung-ho adrenalin junkie. Paul has cleaned out that island of ocean garbage, reglaciated the pole, baked a cake, started a technology revolution, started bringing magic mainstream and done more towards reforming career supervillains than pretty much the entire JL. And he has only been on this planet a few months.

At least Eris is pleased.
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I imagine that Waller called Harley and others in the prison's employment to her office to watch the video feed of Paul's meeting with the soon to be Doc. I can see her telling them that "This, gentlemen, and women, is how you rehabilitate supervillains."

I like the working relationship that Paul has built up with Waller, who I bet isn't a favorite person in the superhero community. I would love to see a scene where Paul has a civil conversation with Waller and ends up freaking one of his teammates out, as they didn't know that the Wall could be civil.
 
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