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I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hades due to all that Satan stand-in nonsense he's had to put up with over the years. With regard to that myth; Persephone, you don't even like the guy. Shouldn't you be happy he's fucking other women, not turning them into mint?
Territoriality.
Oddly enough, the wiki article only says that the unfortunate lady was plotting to seduce Hades; it doesn't say she was an old lover who Hades dumped for Perspephone.
Strabo, Geography 8. 3. 14 (trans. Jones) (Greek geographer C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) :
"Near Pylos, towards the east, is a mountain named after Minthe, who, according to myth, became the concubine of Haides, was trampled under foot by Kore (Core) [Persephone], and was transformed into garden-mint, the plant which some call hedyosmos. Furthermore, near the mountain is a precinct sacred to Haides."

Oppian, Halieutica 3. 485 ff (trans. Mair) (Greek poet C3rd A.D.) :
"Mint (Mintha), men say, was once a maid beneath the earth, a Nymphe of Kokytos (Cocytus), and she lay in the bed of Aidoneus [Hades]; but when he raped the maid Persephone from the Aitnaian hill [Mount Etna in Sicily], then she complained loudly with overweening words and raved foolishly for jealousy, and Demeter in anger trampled upon her with her feet and destroyed her. For she had said that she was nobler of form and more excellent in beauty than dark-eyed Persephone and she boasted that Aidoneus would return to her and banish the other from his halls: such infatuation leapt upon her tongue. And from the earth spray the weak herb that bears her name."

Ovid, Metamorphoses 10. 728 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) :
"Persephone of old was given grace to change a woman's [Mintha's] form to fragrant mint."
MINTHE : Naiad Nymph of Mount Mintha in Elis | Greek mythology

Not much of a fuss though.
Enough.
It's the whole panopticon thing that's likely to be the issue.
I wonder how much fast talking the JL had to do to placate privacy advocates and national security officials alike when OphidiPaul did the worldwide eyes thing.
They really need a civilian support staff.

I remember when the band Soul Asylum released the video for their song Runaway Train, it had the pictures of a bunch of missing/runaway teens (or former teens since some had been missing for years). Several were found, and were upset about it because they were happy in their current lives.
Missing person chained in basement?
Is not likely to be a happy person, or bound consensually.
Very low risk of false positives there.

Besides, there are only about 90,000 missing people in the US at any given time.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/09/23/missing-persons-children-numbers/16110709/

Also how is the ring supposed to determine if someone is an illegal immigrant or not?
Cross reference US birth and immigration records?
If their information isn't on it and they are inside the United States, they are illegal immigrants.
If they have no records and are confined in an enclosed area with/without signs of physical abuse and/or deprivation, the false positive rate is going to be exceedingly low.

Would be one hell of an amusing way to turn up extra clones, by the way, assuming someone's been up to more illegal shenanigans without warding the lab.
Can they take those back?
I don't see why not.
Milli Vanilli had their 1990 Grammy for Best New Artist withdrawn when it turned out that they lipsynched their way through the album.

Any Best Actor/Actress/Supporting Actor Oscar might stay, because no indication that the cast were involved or benefited other than tangentially from what amounts to magical performance enhancement obtained through torture.
But the Best Director award? Best Screenplay? Best Film?
Gone.

And I suspect the infamy of the case may make even any cast members who received Oscars for individual performances return it.(even if they might be dying inside while doing so).
No actor who wants people to go see his/her films needs that kind of publicity.
The film and book corporations will probably keep the bulk of their profits , but I expect they will suffer sudden attacks of social conscience, manifesting in a rash of "charitable" donations to rape survival groups.

And a subtler increase in expenditures on magical consultants and oracles, to ensure propitiation is arranged.
Given that Calliope is Zeus' daughter, Earth-16 Harvey Weinstein probably doesn't want to keep ducking the open sky; a couple million in tax-refundable expenses is a cheap price to pay for peace of mind against Acts of God(and Goddesses).
 
To be fair, Renegade probably has a deep, smooth voice.
My thinking was Mark Gatiss.
A solid pick, but I contend that Gatiss fits the bill better. Rickman sounds like the idiocy that surrounds him on a daily basis is exhausting, whereas for Gatiss it's a source of condescending amusement. Much more Grayven.
I just don't think Gatiss' voice is particularly deep.

Edit: John Noble with Received Pronunciation?
BBC Michael Ironside.

What about Charles Dance?
 
Missing person chained in basement?
Is not likely to be a happy person, or bound consensually.
Very low risk of false positives there.

Besides, there are only about 90,000 missing people in the US at any given time.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/09/23/missing-persons-children-numbers/16110709/
You never know, maybe the reason they ran away was because they were into Bondage and figured their family would try to keep them out of it. :drevil: Certainly not a likely result, admittedly.

Cross reference US birth and immigration records?
If their information isn't on it and they are inside the United States, they are illegal immigrants.
If they have no records and are confined in an enclosed area with/without signs of physical abuse and/or deprivation, the false positive rate is going to be exceedingly low.

Would be one hell of an amusing way to turn up extra clones, by the way, assuming someone's been up to more illegal shenanigans without warding the lab.
Seems like there'd be a lot of 'invasion of privacy' complaints from that sort of plan. And how are you supposed to find out who a person is? DNA scan everyone around you and try comparing to a (highly) incomplete government database? Yank their wallets out of their pockets so that you can read their driver's license/birth certificate/etc to get their name and check it against a registry of some sort?

It sounds like this sort of thing would be really time and power intensive, rather invasive, and possibly illegal.
 
At the very moment a living thing first existed in the DC universe other than the White Entity, Death came into being. When the very last living thing in the universe dies - or when the concept of entropy is finally abolished - her job will be finished.

Death the Endless came into existence shortly after the first lifeforms appeared in the universe.

If I had to guess it was probably around the time where beings that could actually age and die showed up.

So probably a bit after the Old Gods and Maltusians.
 
Death the Endless came into existence shortly after the first lifeforms appeared in the universe.

If I had to guess it was probably around the time where beings that could actually age and die showed up.

So probably a bit after the Old Gods and Maltusians.

Maltusians die. Certainly the early ones, but we've seen corpses from modern ones too.
 
Is Prometheus still chained to the rock on earth 16 or has he been freed? If not we have Paul's next stop.

lso what was wonder woman doing in mount Justice at night? That seems rather odd.
 
One of the themes in Sandman is that the Endless also embody their opposites, isn't it? So Death is also in charge of Life, and such.
No. Destruction is the only one who claimed that and A: everyone else agreed he was talking out his ass and B: he is so bad at creating things that his dog literally makes fun of him for it.

Destiny utterly lacks free will to the point where he only does anything when his book says he will. Death is so disconnected from life that the only way she can even begin to understand it is turning herself mortal for one day a year. The biggest reason for Dream's angst is that the only permanent connections he has with people who aren't his siblings or his subjects are negative ones because dreams fade but nightmares can leave permanent scars.

It is fair to say that some of the Endless are fascinated by their opposites, but that is because they are immortal nigh-omnipotent beings reacting to the only things they can't have.

lso what was wonder woman doing in mount Justice at night? That seems rather odd.
Either being the current Team minder, or just spending time with her son.
 
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I don`t know about corpses, per se, (then again I`m not that knowledgeable about all DCstuff) but Scar definitely died. :)
We've seen dead Guardians in-story.

I send a probe construct forwards. Ah. With no artificial gravity objects have fallen down. There's a pile of crushed bones and partially burned and torn robes at the apparent bottom of the room, and- ooh shit! Is that a Manhunter? Robotic humanoid, but… The outer surface isn't red and it doesn't have that white faceplate they usually do. I can't see any obvious damage and it's partially buried under the remains of its masters. Looks like.. three Guardians? Assuming a standard humanoid skeletal structure.
 
welcome to the less asinine side of the internet zoat...at least here if you badmouth a mod they don't pitch a hissy fit. you will certainly be welcomed...by most of the community.
 
OL wishes he had Keith David's rich molasses-y voice.

Point of order- so does everyone.

At the very moment a living thing first existed in the DC universe other than the White Entity, Death came into being.

Oh, please don't bring the Entities into the argument with the Endless, because then we get into the "Who actually has dominion over what," argument, because we have both Death and Nekron... unless Black Hand was the Black entity, I was never really sure about that. And then there's about nine or ten different groups on Earth that claim that their gods were the ones that created the damn place, and those gods are corporeal and agree, but then how does that fit into the White Entity's story and the Guardians...

Also, Lust vs. The Predator, MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE.

Furthermore, at one point, Dream states that Hope is more powerful than Anti-Life, so... how that relates into Blue Lanterns is unknown...

Look, what I'm trying to say is that comic books are really confusing.
 
Point of order- so does everyone.



Oh, please don't bring the Entities into the argument with the Endless, because then we get into the "Who actually has dominion over what," argument, because we have both Death and Nekron... unless Black Hand was the Black entity, I was never really sure about that. And then there's about nine or ten different groups on Earth that claim that their gods were the ones that created the damn place, and those gods are corporeal and agree, but then how does that fit into the White Entity's story and the Guardians...

Also, Lust vs. The Predator, MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE.

Furthermore, at one point, Dream states that Hope is more powerful than Anti-Life, so... how that relates into Blue Lanterns is unknown...

Look, what I'm trying to say is that comic books are really confusing.
Black Hand was Nekron`s Herald. Nekron was the Entity.
But I agree on dominions being confusing if you take more than one group of...whoevers...alone.
 
Black Hand was Nekron`s Herald. Nekron was the Entity.
But I agree on dominions being confusing if you take more than one group of...whoevers...alone.

Okay, thank you. Although now I'm confused as to what exactly a herald is...

Or, for that matter, why gods of a specific emotion aren't sought out by rings for that color. Why is Aphrodite not a Star Sapphire? Hades a Black Lantern? Phobos a member of the Sinestro Corps? Elpis a Blue Lantern? Lyssa a Red Lantern?

I freely admit that I freshly googled these, but the point remains. There's lots of these guys floating around being EXACTLY the sort of things that these corps would recruit...
 
Okay, thank you. Although now I'm confused as to what exactly a herald is...

Or, for that matter, why gods of a specific emotion aren't sought out by rings for that color. Why is Aphrodite not a Star Sapphire? Hades a Black Lantern? Phobos a member of the Sinestro Corps? Elpis a Blue Lantern? Lyssa a Red Lantern?

I freely admit that I freshly googled these, but the point remains. There's lots of these guys floating around being EXACTLY the sort of things that these corps would recruit...
Well, I`m not sure on exact definition myself. But there is Silver Surfer TAS, I believe available on Youtube, and Silver Surfer was Galactus` Herald, so... Maybe watching it will give you some idea?

I don`t know. Corps Leaders not wanting them as members? Or something totally different. Idk.
 
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