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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Daaaamn. I am kind of hoping for a Greek god wrath demonstration on the day of judgement, both to warn people that might come to think kidnaping a muse is a good idea, to show the world that gods are an actual thing and protect his own. Then i am imagining a big number of people suddenly engaging in god worshiping and a new era starting from the greek gods.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Depending how into Greek mythology he got, he either went to the Fields of Punishment or Hell.
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So superfucked then.
Senevri said:
Fair point. Hm. It would be a fair amount of work to sieve those out.
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"Ring, cross-reference with missing persons reports.
Cross reference with birth records for under-eighteens. Cross-reference with immigrations records".

Missing persons, minors and illegal immigrants.
False positives will be pretty much zero.
 
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Senevri said:
Fair point. Hm. It would be a fair amount of work to sieve those out. A worthy task, but not suited for orange light. Frankly, I can't think of a perfect search - only limit to those with injuries? Some injuries would be consensual, and some kidnap victims would be uninjured. Drug use? Same thing. Fear, Stress hormones? Same thing. Ugh.... drop a construct HUD in front of everyone with a question "Are you being held against your will?(y/n)", and you'll miss brainwashed ones, unconscious ones, and would be tricky with those under constant surveillance.

An interesting problem, but veering off-topic fast. Sure, a clarification into a coherent state + a purely mental query would only miss those who have been brainwashed, and those who believe they're getting tricked by their captors through some convoluted troll logic, but STILL misses some, and outside the easily-accessible capabilities of a ring-slinger.
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I think he'd probably need to use the partial Ophidian merge for something like that, like for a quintessence scan. Automated ring scans don't seem to have the necessary judgement, and even if he used Accelerated Perception so he could go through all the scan results in a reasonable amount of time he'd almost certainly run out of avarice for the job long before he finished. The partial merge would let him See The World all at once and understand what he saw.

But for locating something that's really quite rare that's a pretty significant time investment that's likely to come up empty or mostly so. If he decided to prioritize rescuing rape victims in general rather than looking for a specific victim like Calliope, there's much more effective ways. Going after human trafficking rings for example. For that matter, talk to Wonder Woman; she's probably got a list of groups of that nature she's looking into that she hasn't been able to crack open and Righteously Face Punch the ones responsible to a pulp yet.
 
dwibby said:
The courts tend to frown on warrantless searches, and jumped-up elementals tend to care less about unlawful imprisonment of individuals not related to them. Depending on how the US Courts would treat a Justice League-affiliated individual performing an obvious mass search (giving the FBI an exhaustive list, as opposed to a plausibly narrow search like "I used my ring to locate Calliope, and found that she was in danger of immediate harm") it may cause a large number of such cases to be thrown out due to fruit of the poisonous tree. 'Course, the FBI and NSA already make something similar work, so who knows.
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OL is neither police, nor a federal agent; he's not even a member of the Justice League, given that the Team are officially interns and very lowkey.
Foreign diplomat(Themysciran diplomatic passport) making a citizens arrest, and sharing intelligence.
Fruit of the poisonous tree does not apply legally, though I'm sure people will make a fuss anyway, and rightfully so.
 
Avernus said:
And as for this particular guy, he sounds like the exact sort of fellow who doesn't really consider anything about getting what he wants, now. Not future consequences. He didn't think of her as a real person, just a tool; he probably doesn't think about the rest of the Olympians even that much.
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Also, I believe there have been a list of rapes happening in Greek Mythology, some performed by Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, etc. He could have just figured that if the Greek Gods did things like that, then it was okay to do it to a Muse of Greek mythology.

If Zeus or Hades do get enraged at this, I wouldn't be surprised if they were more upset at her being imprisoned than being raped, or that it was a mortal who did it to her, or that she had been traded for a trichonobezoar (which basically means that Madoc had bought her as a slave). Or at least that's what they'd say.


Zeus: Oh, that is just unforgivable. I mean, sure, I may have committed adultery a few times and raped a few women... but I never kidnapped them for more than a week at most. And I always made sure to transform into an animal of some kind when I did it. Or a satyr. Satyrs are a type of animal. It's not rape when it's an animal doing it, it's just them being friendly.

Hades: Yeah... and my thing with Persephone. That's totally okay too because... um... she ate six pomegranate seeds and those are sacred in the Underworld. Yeah, you can't eat underworld food and leave so... she just had to become my wife even if she didn't want to. Don't ask about the kidnapping before that. That... that has a totally valid excuse I haven't made up yet.

Poseidon: What can I say. I'm a monster. Doesn't make it okay for guys like him to do that kind of stuff. *takes a swig of wine* It just means I'm rich and powerful enough to avoid the consequences. You wanna do sick and depraved stuff to people who can't fight back? Then be born a God or something. Poseidon out!

Hera: ... This is why I don't want modern humans worshiping us.
 
Silverias said:
I'm...wondering how Grayven would have reacted to this.

I'm thinking blender construct.
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Avernus said:
I'm thinking "Agony matrix to the face!", myself.
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Tylonius said:
Followed by a blending.

When Diana shows up, he just tells her the guy slipped into the construct.
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I imagine it'd be more... "Sinestro ring. What's the best thing you have for scum like him?"

A Yellow Ring would know how to draw it out after all. Although an Agony Matrix would probably be just as good.
 
Rossum said:
Hades: Yeah... and my thing with Persephone. That's totally okay too because... um... she ate six pomegranate seeds and those are sacred in the Underworld. Yeah, you can't eat underworld food and leave so... she just had to become my wife even if she didn't want to. Don't ask about the kidnapping before that. That... that has a totally valid excuse I haven't made up yet.
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This will come up later. Though Hades did exercise some pretty poor judgement, Zeus was the one who was supposed to be making the marriage arrangements with Persephone's mother. Hades genuinely believed that things were taken care of when he went to pick her up.

Unlike Zeus -who's just looking for a warm moist hole- Hades genuinely loves his wife. He just expects them to relate to one another in a traditional way.
DamienGale said:
Imagine grayven bein asked to rescue her...
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He'd probably just sigh, disintegrate Madoc and phone the police.
 
I just read the two recent chapters.
I have hit the level of Anger where I get Creative for what I think should happen to Scum like that writer.
My mind is a place that both Scares and Disturbs me at times, and if I wasn't at Cold Fury level of Anger this would definitely be one of those times.
If I had a Red Ring I would already have Planetary Safeties disengaged, and if it exists, Galactic Safeties would be disengaged as well.
 
Night_stalker said:
Though, to be fair, depending on the myth's source, he may or may not have cheated on her with menthe.
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I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hades due to all that Satan stand-in nonsense he's had to put up with over the years. With regard to that myth; Persephone, you don't even like the guy. Shouldn't you be happy he's fucking other women, not turning them into mint?
 
Backlash177 said:
I just read the two recent chapters.
I have hit the level of Anger where I get Creative for what I think should happen to Scum like that writer.
My mind is a place that both Scares and Disturbs me at times, and if I wasn't at Cold Fury level of Anger this would definitely be one of those times.
If I had a Red Ring I would already have Planetary Safeties disengaged, and if it exists, Galactic Safeties would be disengaged as well.
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Are the Very Least, you are Positively Brimming with Strange Capitalization.
 
killfr3nzy said:
I can't see him passing up the chance to rub this in the face of Olympus/Themyscira with a bonus 'reason you suck' speech.
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If anything it would just 'prove' to the Themyscryans that men are all evil bastards. Not really what he's going for.
uju32 said:
though I'm sure people will make a fuss anyway, and rightfully so.
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Not much of a fuss though. Because of some interesting quirks of psychology anyone making the argument that it wasn't legal will sound like they are defending the huge list of slaving rapists. Then they'll get metaphorically dogpiled by the huge mass of angry people whipped up into a righteous fervour that something so horrible was actually going on. Political will to change the laws would be non-existent.
 
The Bushranger said:
The thing is then you'll get a remarkable amount of 'false positives' from people who were engaging in consensual BDSM at the time.
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Well there is that danger, but an Orange Ring is probably one of the better ones for filtering that out. Just check the person's desire on whether or not they want to be in the chains. You'll still almost certainly get false positives, but you shouldn't get nearly as many.
 
Mr Zoat said:
I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hades due to all that Satan stand-in nonsense he's had to put up with over the years. With regard to that myth; Persephone, you don't even like the guy. Shouldn't you be happy he's fucking other women, not turning them into mint?
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Do a little bit Marvels Hades. He does not want to sleep on the Ground next to his Three Head Dog Again. His Wife is the Undisputed rule off the Greek After Life when she not Visiting her Mother.
 
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