Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- A Valid Location
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- He/Him
He was known for having a particularly strong anti-rape stance, as I recall, what with killing the son of Poseidon who tried to rape his daughter.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
He was known for strong "don't touch my direct family" stance. Rape... not so much.
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I do believe this is the most red I have ever seen out of Paul in an update; possibly in the entire fic.
And that's a writer who's quite thoroughly fucked. Literally his best bet is having the law throw the book at him, and hope that the Muses and their allies consider it enough.
The Greek Pantheon is not known for it's kind and forgiving ways.
And the guy who sold her to Madoc is screwed as well, for kidnapping and illegal confinement; if he's dead, he just falls into Hades' tender mercies.
And you can be sure they'd put in a word with other divinities if he ended up in a different afterlife.
Muses are distinctive; a hypertech supercomputer cross-searching inspired/successful works of fiction in the period of time since Calliope went missing would have generated a list of possible suspects to follow up on.
Or his Ophidian Eyes trick grabbed a lot of info, and the mention of Calliope's name jogged a memory.
Or his Quintessence scan while looking for Lex's servers detected her, but he didn't know she was missing.
I do expect him to simply fall back on Power rings are awesome, though; simple, and an old excuse.
Basically, he's been cultivating a reputation for competence for so long that no one is likely to ask how he did it, just that he did.
Reputations are good for that.
Should be a past there.
I do believe this is the most red I have ever seen out of Paul in an update; possibly in the entire fic.
And that's a writer who's quite thoroughly fucked. Literally his best bet is having the law throw the book at him, and hope that the Muses and their allies consider it enough.
The Greek Pantheon is not known for it's kind and forgiving ways.
And the guy who sold her to Madoc is screwed as well, for kidnapping and illegal confinement; if he's dead, he just falls into Hades' tender mercies.
And you can be sure they'd put in a word with other divinities if he ended up in a different afterlife.
Multiple plausible explanations:
Muses are distinctive; a hypertech supercomputer cross-searching inspired/successful works of fiction in the period of time since Calliope went missing would have generated a list of possible suspects to follow up on.
Or his Ophidian Eyes trick grabbed a lot of info, and the mention of Calliope's name jogged a memory.
Or his Quintessence scan while looking for Lex's servers detected her, but he didn't know she was missing.
I do expect him to simply fall back on Power rings are awesome, though; simple, and an old excuse.
Basically, he's been cultivating a reputation for competence for so long that no one is likely to ask how he did it, just that he did.
Reputations are good for that.
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Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- He/Him
"Well, considering the state Euanthe had been kept in, I figured any Greek divines that were missing were probably being held against their will, probably for reasons relating to their domain. Muses... well, to put it bluntly, people who's exploit them for their gifts fit into a rather narrow demographic. I performed a search for writers who had unusually consistent content output, and after narrowing the profile some I did a manual sweep and scan via FTL for signs of women being held against their will. I... may have been spending too much time with John Constantine."
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- Oulu
I find myself becoming even more pedantic. This is not a good thing.
Speaking of which, "Ring, list of all privately owned homes in the US, with people kept chained up, or imprisoned in them. Forward that to the FBI, will you?"
Because, it seems like you need to be a jumped-up elemental here to get any service. Hmph.
Can the guy even be convicted if Calliope doesn't testify? If it's required, then OL just guaranteed a media circus. I mean, the author kidnapped (Mythnapped? Musenapped?) a mythological non-citizen, although Themyscira citizenship is probably easily created. Regardless, unless you can point the kidnapped person to the authorities, there's no evidence. Ugh.
Well, at least, if Calliope skips, the media circus should guarantee Madoc' life goes down the drain, more or less.
Speaking of which, "Ring, list of all privately owned homes in the US, with people kept chained up, or imprisoned in them. Forward that to the FBI, will you?"
Because, it seems like you need to be a jumped-up elemental here to get any service. Hmph.
really old jumped-up inspiration elementals, you mean?
Aaand.... that looks like it might be a step too far. I mean, I don't think Calliope will mind that much, since she's likely to get spirited away to Themyscira, but....
Can the guy even be convicted if Calliope doesn't testify? If it's required, then OL just guaranteed a media circus. I mean, the author kidnapped (Mythnapped? Musenapped?) a mythological non-citizen, although Themyscira citizenship is probably easily created. Regardless, unless you can point the kidnapped person to the authorities, there's no evidence. Ugh.
Well, at least, if Calliope skips, the media circus should guarantee Madoc' life goes down the drain, more or less.
As far as explanations for how he knew goes, I doubt anyone will interrogate him. By now he's pretty firmly established as The Guy Who Knows Stuff; he's always pulling out information other people don't know. Early on people kept asking and he had to come up with explanations, but by now they appear to have mostly just accepted that Power Rings are indeed Awesome.
Plus, they are a lot less likely to care about how he did it than what he did; rescuing rape victims is not exactly the kind of behavior that inspires the likes of Wonder Woman to start up a hostile interrogation.
Plus, they are a lot less likely to care about how he did it than what he did; rescuing rape victims is not exactly the kind of behavior that inspires the likes of Wonder Woman to start up a hostile interrogation.
Eh.
A superhero just arrested a multi-Oscar winning director, author and playwright for rape, kidnapping and false imprisonment.
Of a demigoddess.
It was guaranteed to be a media circus from the beginning.
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Come to think of it, you could probably throw in a sex trafficking charge there as well.
Dude is never seeing the light of day again.
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OL has video evidence, there's physical evidence in the basement, and likely other written evidence in the house, given the guy's propensity for writing shit.
Dude is screwed regardless of whether or not she testifies in person.
And it's not like it would be a hardship for Diana to arrange for her to give a video deposition instead of showing up physically in court.
The Bushranger
In the Danger Zone
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The thing is then you'll get a remarkable amount of 'false positives' from people who were engaging in consensual BDSM at the time.
Which is, I believe, the point. This is the Paragon equivilant of what Grayven did to the politicans.
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- madison
"I actually tried to track down a muse as a possible way to get a line to the greek pantheon, before I found out how well prayer worked for that. Ended up with a list of a few hundred authors who had a sudden jump in skill that marked them as possibles. While in hindsight I will admit that I was probably jumping to conclusions by assuming the worst, given how I found her i'm rather glad I did."
Question. Wouldn't it be a bad idea to notify yhe papers about this? People knowing that a muse was forcibly imprisoned, would not that embolden others to do something similar? You put it out there and it will give the wrong people ideas.
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You know he could just say that the name triggered a memeory from when he and his best lady were fused. It's well known that his memory of the time is quite spotty.
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- Alabama
The Recent update makes me wonder.
Is the YJ Doctor Light the pathetic wannabe from Teen Titans.
Or is he the...thing from the comics?
After all Sally is a thing here.
Is the YJ Doctor Light the pathetic wannabe from Teen Titans.
Or is he the...thing from the comics?
After all Sally is a thing here.
I was thinking less about Ares' nonexistent moral standards, than about the fact that if OL were to shout "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" in his hearing his response would be "Do you mean me or the other guy?"
Not really the sort of god whose negative attention you want to draw when you have no powers or magical defenses at all.
chaonaut
Totally Not a Spy for Orochimort
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The courts tend to frown on warrantless searches, and jumped-up elementals tend to care less about unlawful imprisonment of individuals not related to them. Depending on how the US Courts would treat a Justice League-affiliated individual performing an obvious mass search (giving the FBI an exhaustive list, as opposed to a plausibly narrow search like "I used my ring to locate Calliope, and found that she was in danger of immediate harm") it may cause a large number of such cases to be thrown out due to fruit of the poisonous tree. 'Course, the FBI and NSA already make something similar work, so who knows.
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- California
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- He/Him
It's possible to make him a legitimate threat without delving into the disturbing depths of Identity Crisis.
I've got it set up so I get alerts when the thread-starter makes a post of significant size. (over 200 words, I think) so I can always tell when Zoat is posting his chapters.
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Thank you, corrected.
Depending how into Greek mythology he got, he either went to the Fields of Punishment or Hell.
"You know, there was some debate about where you should spend eternity. Then I told Hades -"
<demon holds up a big saw>
"Why not both?!"
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
If he used the 'I remembered from that time with all the eyes' excuse, it would probably be justified under hot pursuit. And given that the crime in question is quite horrific even before it becomes an international incident and media circus, the courts are likely to see things his way.
Most surface worlders don't really know it; part of their general ignorance of the supernatural. And of those who do I suspect that for a lot of them it's at most an intellectual knowledge, something they haven't really internalized.
And as for this particular guy, he sounds like the exact sort of fellow who doesn't really consider anything about getting what he wants, now. Not future consequences. He didn't think of her as a real person, just a tool; he probably doesn't think about the rest of the Olympians even that much.
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- Oulu
Fair point. Hm. It would be a fair amount of work to sieve those out. A worthy task, but not suited for orange light. Frankly, I can't think of a perfect search - only limit to those with injuries? Some injuries would be consensual, and some kidnap victims would be uninjured. Drug use? Same thing. Fear, Stress hormones? Same thing. Ugh.... drop a construct HUD in front of everyone with a question "Are you being held against your will?(y/n)", and you'll miss brainwashed ones, unconscious ones, and would be tricky with those under constant surveillance.
An interesting problem, but veering off-topic fast. Sure, a clarification into a coherent state + a purely mental query would only miss those who have been brainwashed, and those who believe they're getting tricked by their captors through some convoluted troll logic, but STILL misses some, and outside the easily-accessible capabilities of a ring-slinger.
So, in regards to the most recent update:
This places him pretty firmly in a universe where Sandman is likely canon... but also implies that Sandman is in a very early stage of canon indeed.
This means he needs to look at:
1: Stopping Doctor Destiny from escaping Arkham, and securing the red crystal of Dream (yes, stopping the events of Twenty Four Hours from ever happening is number 1 priority, that comic was fucked up)
2: Look into the house that eats people because of Dream's sand-bag
and, less pressing but probably just as important as the above
3: Look into rescuing Dream himself
As well as anything else that happened in Sandman that caused large amounts of suffering.
This places him pretty firmly in a universe where Sandman is likely canon... but also implies that Sandman is in a very early stage of canon indeed.
This means he needs to look at:
1: Stopping Doctor Destiny from escaping Arkham, and securing the red crystal of Dream (yes, stopping the events of Twenty Four Hours from ever happening is number 1 priority, that comic was fucked up)
2: Look into the house that eats people because of Dream's sand-bag
and, less pressing but probably just as important as the above
3: Look into rescuing Dream himself
As well as anything else that happened in Sandman that caused large amounts of suffering.
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If you'd have been there, if you'd have seen it I betcha you would have done the same.
Anyway, musical theatre references aside, I really enjoyed this update. Righteously Angry Paul is awesome.
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