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Open marriages are a thing. Zeusypoo just needs to find himself a lady with a less pedestrian mindset.
He should marry Aphrodite, they both deserve each other.
Imagine all the fighting, duels, lightnings and plots being thrown about, with Ares trying to sneak in day and night.
Hephaestus will be free from being cuckolded all the damn time, so there's that too.

I'm just waiting for the day when the Olympians track down Paul to get him to pay for causing so much damn Chaos. Eris will be laughing hard that day.
 
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Hmm? Zoat retconned stuff?
Some times. In the case of the Ophidian it was more making my original intent more clear.
So, odds that Paul got kinky with Melly while we were distracted by the Renegade update? It's been three and a half hours since the last Paul update in-story, parts 4-7 took a quarter hour in-story, and Paul knows he was expected to fly now.
I assure you: when the SI gets kinky, you'll know about it.
Heck he was even ready to become a female for no specific reason and that along with the changes it would do to his brain would be a massive shift in self hood.
Yeah, no... Specific reason.

Ahem.
 
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So this has been bothering me for a bit now. In terms of power and skill, would Paul be able to defeat any of the higher-tier Olympian gods? How do the Olympian gods stack up against a power ring?
 
So this has been bothering me for a bit now. In terms of power and skill, would Paul be able to defeat any of the higher-tier Olympian gods? How do the Olympian gods stack up against a power ring?
A lot would depend on location, and how far OL is willing to go. Most obviously, if it's a killing matter OL can just use his Sword.

Location matters for at least two reasons. First, it matters because of collateral damage; OL has a number of things he could do that he avoids doing because he doesn't want to lay waste to inhabited areas. And second, it matters because it affects how much power each side has.

Mr Zoat has said in the past that while the Greek gods are not any weaker than they used to be, a lack of worship makes it harder for them to affect the mortal world; at the same time as we saw in his recent trip to the Underworld some of OL's abilities like transitioning don't work at all in at least some mystical realms. So OL against a Greek god in the mortal world is a very different proposition than trying to fight one in Olympus; in both cases, one side is hampered.

EDIT: Also, Mr Zoat said that Zeus was one of the very few beings on Earth strong enough to matter in a fight against the Ophidian. Unless he's changed his mind on that fighting Zeus without the Ophidian in Olympus where he has access to all his power is probably a really bad idea.
 
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She nods. "More even than having an avowed Discordian on a complex mechanical flying machine."
And apparently Paul is a Gremlin now. Well, at least it must be nice to finally have an answer to those people asking "What are you?", I guess?


"That's a silly superstition. Come anyway. There're going to be two demigoddesses and me there to look after them. Nothing's going to happen."
... Are we sure he is not a Gremlin? :o
 
"Serious crime" does not mean terrorist attack that results in mass death and destruction.

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There is a big difference between evacuating those only vaguely related to an attack and freeing one of the people directly responsible.
This is a pre-9/11 world, so the world "terrorism" isn't a magic word that can be applied to everything. Vertigo participated in a supervillain attack.

Also, Vertigo didn't kill anybody himself, so he'd be charged with, what ... aiding the Joker, and maybe assault if the Team pressed charges? I guess they could push for attempted murder on the "attacking the Team" thing.
And before you try to say he's the only one in charge, well, news flash kids, then that means the country just declared war on the US. And that's a bad thing.
Vertigo isn't "the one in charge", he's just politically important. Do you see anyone charging Bill Clinton with rape anytime soon?

And no, "aiding" "terrorists" is not an act of war, unless you want to argue the CIA is currently at war with most of the world.
Everyone does say that Trump is Orange.
... y'know, if he were secretly a Construct Lantern, it would explain a lot.
So would Manhattan!Paul wear clothes?
I always got the impression that the process didn't mess you up in the head, the power did.

... that said, I'm not sure how the SI would rebuild himself in the first place.
Mind you, the "hilarity" of Paul with a Death Note is the rules for them are eminently lawyerable given the "determine the time and manner of death clause".
IIRC you can't kill anyone else as a result of someone else's "method of death", and anything sufficiently improbably is also nixed.
So this has been bothering me for a bit now. In terms of power and skill, would Paul be able to defeat any of the higher-tier Olympian gods? How do the Olympian gods stack up against a power ring?
I could swear Zoat said that Zeus was somewhere around the Ophidian's level, but I can't find the quote.

Do bear in mind that Renegade, who was wearing anti-God armour from Apokalypse as well as his ring and was expecting the blow, barely tanked a middling bolt from Zeus that one time.

He may not be able to simply transmogrify Paul Arachne-style anymore, but Zeus is still a formidable foe. "Is the most powerful" is a part of his portfolio, after all.
Achlys is an interesting question. Just in raw power, I can't imagine a low-level Greek deity could match the Ophidian, which implies it could change her essential nature by force, if necessary.
Remember, Zoat has said that a god's power isn't based on their worshippers, it's free-floating "out there" and the worshippers act as a channel - kind of like Klarion or Nabu.
Does there HAVE to be an embodiment (little e) of Hellenic misery? If Paul fixes this will bad things happen?
Considering what happens if you assimilate a New God, probably, yes.
 
Also, Vertigo didn't kill anybody himself, so he'd be charged with, what ... aiding the Joker, and maybe assault if the Team pressed charges? I guess they could push for attempted murder on the "attacking the Team" thing.
He attacked London. In Britain we have this useful thing called 'joint enterprise' which would mean that they could all be convicted of murder, regardless of which one actually controlled the plants.
 
He attacked London. In Britain we have this useful thing called 'joint enterprise' which would mean that they could all be convicted of murder, regardless of which one actually controlled the plants.
In America its Felony Murder. If someone dies during the commission of certain felonies, then all criminals participating can be charged with murder.
 
In America its Felony Murder. If someone dies during the commission of certain felonies, then all criminals participating can be charged with murder.
It can even go further than that. If they're feeling vindictive, and depending on where you are, you can get hit with Felony Murder for anything that could reasonably be expected to happen due to the crime.

Cop accidently hits a civilian with a stray bullet during a hostage situation? Your responsibility, because cops shooting at you for taking hostages is something you can reasonably expect to happen.
 
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I still think the economist is Best Olympian but the King Of The Dead is a very close second.

Paul may want to be a bit more circumspect about calling down divine wrath while standing next to people who can't tank lightning bolts.

So did the theatre troupe study English in preparation or will they be relying on translators?
 
This is a pre-9/11 world, so the world "terrorism" isn't a magic word that can be applied to everything. Vertigo participated in a supervillain attack.

Also, Vertigo didn't kill anybody himself, so he'd be charged with, what ... aiding the Joker, and maybe assault if the Team pressed charges? I guess they could push for attempted murder on the "attacking the Team" thing.

Oddly enough, in a sane world, this would actually be the 9/11 equivalent, at the very least. The attacks were wide spread enough that it would be difficult to find someone with access to television who didn't know, personally, someone who was in danger of dying to this attack.

As for what they could be charged with? Even if they somehow didn't kill anyone, they still hit multiple cities with attacks that could have easily killed large portions of the population of those cities.

And no, 'We knew the law enforcement people would stop it' doesn't make it not attempted murder.

Moreover, they went on an international broadcast to tell everyone about it.

And no, recording a crime and publishing it doesn't make it not attempted murder either.

Even without the various conspiracy laws (designed to make it possible to prosecute organized crime, which this pretty clearly would be), accessory to attempted murder alone can carry a life sentence in many places. Most of which these attacks hit. With just London and New York Metropolis they'd be looking at over ten million counts of that.

Even if they managed to beat the murder charges, somehow, this much property damage doesn't just carry a fine.

As far as diplomatic immunity goes, here's the wikipedia article on it, and the section on people who actually committed serious crimes, like a piddling two or three counts of assault or murder. While deportation (Persona non grata) does happen, and diplomats can get away with drug smuggling and parking violations, in more serious cases the immunity is often waved by the country of origin.

When it isn't, well, sometimes nothing comes of it, but a few murders involving embassies have contributed to outright conflict. The shooting of a British police officer from the inside of the Libyan embassy that led to a breakdown in relations, and later contributed to Thatcher's support of Reagan's bombing of Libya, being the one that most stands out in my mind.

And this is a little more than 'just a few murders.'
 
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Oddly enough, in a sane world, this would actually be the 9/11 equivalent, at the very least. The attacks were wide spread enough that it would be difficult to find someone with access to television who didn't know, personally, someone who was in danger of dying to this attack.
Didn't they attack only like, 4 cities? 3? with the damage spread to 1~2 blocks on each? none near skyscrapers?

I seriously doubt your statement.

As for what they could be charged with? Even if they somehow didn't kill anyone, they still hit multiple cities with attacks that could have easily killed large portions of the population of those cities.
Unless by 'large portions' you mean less than 0.001%, then no. At most, they threatened less than 100 people per city. It's still a lot of people to threaten and a grave crime, but it's nowhere near what you claim.

designed to make it possible to prosecute organized crime, which this pretty clearly would be
Why? organized crime and this have very little to do with each other, with the only thing they have in common is both being crime.

When it isn't, well, sometimes nothing comes of it, but a few murders involving embassies have contributed to outright conflict. The shooting of a British police officer from the inside of the Libyan embassy that led to breakdown in relations, and later contributed to Thatcher's support of Reagan's bombing of Libya, being the one that most stands out in my mind.
Your own example took years to see any actual backlash, and nobody was arrested for it at any point. The timeframe we have on Vertigo is less than an eyeblink in diplomatic relations.

As you just said, normally, the procedure is to see what the parent country wants to do, and if the country doesn't revoke their immunity, then the backlash doesn't really fall on the diplomat who gets to walk away free, but on the country itself any number of years later.
 
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So 5 cities if you count the initial metropolis attack, two in areas with short buildings (of which one was ridiculously tiny while the other grew to a significant size and managed to threaten a couple blocks radius), one on a bridge, one on a plant that should be far from people and should have failsafes, and one actually on a monument that should have a lot of people. I doubt they managed to put in danger more than, say, 3000 people at most, with the kill/injured count being far, far lower.
 
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It's also important to remember that what happened in the show isn't necessarily what happened in this story. Easy example being the ritual with all the magic users that apparently had little to effect on the world at large in the show. While in this story that was obviously not the case.

Edit: Because it's on TV and supposed to be aimed at youth and young adults they can't exactly show boat loads of people dying; hence the like five plants that did basically nothing and hurt maybe three people on screen.
 
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