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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Rem Ipsum said:
I do not agree that it is a more vital need than security of health and family. Sex is a luxury, and like all luxuries you don't really need it, even if having it might confer some psychological benefits.

Do people sometimes choose it over other, more important needs? Yes, and we criticise them for it, because it is poor prioritisation.
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And Maslow's Hierarchy doesn't criticize or judge, it just describes. it takes the why people choose things over supposedly more important stuff and organizes it into a model that is still one of the foundations of modern psychology.

Because it turns out our psychological/biological needs don't necessarily need to give a fuck about rational prioritization and what is objectively more vital and important. Maslow's Hierarchy is not some moral life guide to normal not-Orange-Lantern people, it's a psychological science tool that describes how your jumped up animal mind and body handle and prioritize needs.

And the fact is that if some of the needs in the lower level are unfulfilled, then people will prioritize and emotionally want things on the level above it less. And sex was put and stayed in the lowest level of the pyramid as a basic need not because Maslow was some free love advocate and managed to brainwash the next generation psychologists into his agenda, but because it turns out that as far as our evolution-shaped bodies are concerned? - Mating instinct is pretty important and our bodies will make sure we know that too through all sorts of frustrations it will kindly share with us to remind that.
 
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Iron Roby said:
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Once again, I completely disagree.

You can die a ninety year old virgin and be no worse off for it.(Maybe you'd have a bit more difficulty burning off stress at times, I don't know. I'm sure there are eunuchs who've lived bountiful lives?). Go a few years without human companionship, and you break. (Note that forced isolation is, by most modern metrics, a brutal form of torture.)

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand your point of view.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Are you a necromancer?"

She nods, slowly. "Lord Hades has granted me certain insights. Donna once told me that in the works of fiction of Man's World, necromancers are depicted as being able to conjure corpses and shades to do their bidding."

"It's hard to power game the ability to merely speak to the dead. Sort of an NPC class skill." Her eyebrows rise slightly.
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Honestly, I think that line would throw most people outside of Themyscira, too.

Mr Zoat said:
Hm. There's probably some big death-related metaphor here but I'm just going to try shoving…

Huh.

That was easier than I though it would be. Barely took any effort at all.
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Assuming there is a metaphorical element, I imagine they'll be a lot tougher to open on the way back up: dying is easy. Coming back to life is significantly harder.

Mr Zoat said:
No one I know well has died on this Earth, the Kahdaqis would have gone to the Silver City…
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Took me a bit longer than it should have to figure out that this was referring to modern Kahndaqis (missing a letter in the middle there, by the way), so this threw me for a minute. ...either that, or I subconsciously assumed the Silver City only covered Judaism and Christianity, which is both dumb (since Islam is very much a continuation of that trend, to the point that they share prophets) and probably doesn't say good things about me.

HanEmpire said:
What does this signify? Is Paul yawning?
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To me it reads like stifled/internal laughter, so I imagine he spotted something particularly amusing on the way down.
 
Burn. You know you're getting called out as unmerciful when Hades is said to be more forgiving. Between Orpheus and Persephone, he isn't really known for letting things out of his grasp ...
 
Rem Ipsum said:
Once again, I completely disagree.

You can die a ninety year old virgin and be no worse off for it.(Maybe you'd have a bit more difficulty burning off stress at times, I don't know. I'm sure there are eunuchs who've lived bountiful lives?). Go a few years without human companionship, and you break. (Note that forced isolation is, by most modern metrics, a brutal form of torture.)

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand your point of view.
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The hierarchy model is meant to mostly work in normal life not such extreme conditions. When a psychologist is trying to find out where a person's pent-up stress and frustration is coming from, long forced isolation is normally not an issue in the patient's history.

In normal circumstances, sexual frustration can settle in a lot quicker than feeling of loneliness. Plus extreme isolation just damages your need by breaking your mind down, sexual frustration involves your body actively frustrating you and that being working as intended.

And those eunuchs can have it pretty nice, yes, because sex relieves stress largely by relieving you from the pent-up need to have sex in the first place. It's like hormonal blackmail. If the source of the large part of the frustration is literally removed, then it's not actually that bad.

Of course, the majority of people are not willing to go for that convenient solution, for some reason. :V
 
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AliasBot said:
Took me a bit longer than it should have to figure out that this was referring to modern Kahndaqis (missing a letter in the middle there, by the way), so this threw me for a minute. ...either that, or I subconsciously assumed the Silver City only covered Judaism and Christianity, which is both dumb (since Islam is very much a continuation of that trend, to the point that they share prophets) and probably doesn't say good things about me.
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Well, from what I remember Hellblazer wise the Silver City and everything it entails only covers Christianity with Judaism being a completely different religion so far as magical shit and the afterlife is concerned. (They can't even keep away Vampires.)

While Islam to my knowledge doesn't really get mentioned at all outside of I believe a single Angel's name which could have come from anywhere. So the religion itself at least in DC comics might just be a Mormonism like offshoot of Christianity.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
"Shouldn't those have healed? Usually Themyscira's blessings-."

"Yes. I believe they are making a point. Still, it was a useful reminder that not all gods are as merciful as ours."

Oh, snap! Take that, Abraham!
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Given how the Greek gods are, that's a really nasty Take That.

Mr Zoat said:
"I'm afraid that the masons who made this corridor would not have heard of that. And would probably be offended by the suggestion that they do anything so tawdry with so holy a site."

"Right, yeah. I suppose-."

"Those are further in."
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Bwahaha! That's hilarious. :rofl:

Mr Zoat said:
How long's this going to take?
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The Underworld: surprisingly boring.
 
You know when Hades heard Hera had finally left Zeus he laugh, when he found out it wasn't a joke he laughed even harder! So hard that the many pieces of Chronos scattered in Tarturus banged on ceiling just long enough to say "Cut that racket out I'm trying to plot my revenge!"

Days latter Zeus arrived banging on Hades front drunk crying over Dionysus's wine about how Hera left him, and how Poseidon wouldn't even let him in. Now Hades being the good brother he is, invites Zeus in cause it's that time of year his wife is out visiting the mother in law, Now the Lord of the Greek Underworld can't get rid of him as such he has a job for OL "Get him out of my home! I don't care how just do it!"

that of course of think this is going to go down.
 
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