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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Jarrik32 said:
Give her an orange ring? Of course not you heathen. I was talking about giving her a violet ring!
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Um, I'm failing to see why this is any better. There was a Star Sapphire who crystallized an entire planet, with herself on it, in order to ensure that she and her love would never become separated. Admittedly, this was back when they wore a huge gem on their foreheads rather than the marginally safer ring on the hand, but still. Violet can make people just as crazy as orange, if not more so.
 
(Not really about current episode, but I had a thought) Batman is marrying Talia soon, right? And she'll officially be Batwoman, right? Me thinks Dickie-bird should change his name to Batboy, and someone should get a Batgirl to join, and Bruce should get it on with Talia so they get Damian aka Batbaby. And ta-da! The Batfamily is complete!
:lol


Wait a sec.. I nearly forgot the Batbutler!
The Batbutler's in there too! :lol
 
Crimson Doom said:
Um, I'm failing to see why this is any better. There was a Star Sapphire who crystallized an entire planet, with herself on it, in order to ensure that she and her love would never become separated. Admittedly, this was back when they wore a huge gem on their foreheads rather than the marginally safer ring on the hand, but still. Violet can make people just as crazy as orange, if not more so.
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Um... That was the joke...
 
They can still summon Hades. Not that he will answer but again, there are oaths and memory spells so other people could do it.

Or he could just tell Wonder Woman, is her family after all. Diana could use the lasso herseft and just told what questions to ask.

And Hades would not refuse a summon by Diana, she is basicaly the only and most famous Greek Gods champion still around.

So yeah, Paul wanting to do all alone screams moronic hero syndrome.

"Hey Diana want to know who your father is or if you have one? Use the lasso of truth on your mother or ask your gods."

There, trip to the Underworld adverted.
 
Pinklestia said:
Or he could just tell Wonder Woman, is her family after all. Diana could use the lasso herseft and just told what questions to ask.
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No.
This is all happening because <insert_imprisoned_amazon_name_here> distrusts Wonder Woman and believes she has some evil plot going, she specifically doesn't want her not to know.

It has been said by Zoat, repeatedly, that her request to Paul also included a "don't tell anyone" clause, if he's not willing to break it for a random amazon in order to get the lasso used and reveal things, he's definitely not willing to break the request even further and ask WW of all people.
 
There's an easy way to do things; a hard way and then there's Paul's way. It would be cheating if he did it the easy way.

That said Queenie has very bad memories of being bound and having her daughter do it isn't really going to help much.
 
Pinklestia said:
So yeah, Paul wanting to do all alone screams moronic hero syndrome.
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Or "not particularly impressed" hero syndrome.

"The god of the dead has the information? I'll just stroll over to his place for a visit."

Hades isn't even the first god he's just decided to go and have a meeting with. OL is not a guy especially overcome with awe at the prospect of encountering gods.

EDIT: Also Hades has a reputation for being relatively reasonable, and doesn't have anything against him. It's not like he was going to visit Ares or Zeus.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
"Thirdly, it has come to our attention that the League has a youth team. And that they have used them at least once to bypass the legal restrictions on the Justice League's own actions. This has caused some disquiet in the Kremlin. Once you have joined, you will be able to recommend a person for this youth team. We have a candidate in mind. Fourthly, telemetry from your suit during Justice League fights will allow us to gain a better understanding of how the suits function in real combat than we could get merely using them against local targets. "
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Forgot to post this when yesterday's snip was posted, but the most hilarious thing about that link is the final paragraph, talking about Red Star's appearance in the Teen Titans cartoon. Specifically, "He is seen again in Titans Together helping the Titans against the Bro's of Evil." Not the Brotherhood of Evil (the actual villains), but the Bro's of Evil. I read that and had visions of a villainous frat house, somewhat similar to the Frat Boys, the frat house that lethally hazed their pledges in the Mystery Men movie.


Iron Roby said:
Ophidian, Hera and Gaia are having a nice quiant tea party. Suddenly, a golden apple is thrown inside through the open window.

"What izz thizzz?" hissed the giant orange snake who still was somehow holding a teacup and sitting in a chair.

Gaia picks it up. ""For the one most suitable to be Orange Lantern's girlfriend"."

"I do not really underzztand, but I want it, I want it!"

"I don't know about you, but I'm having a real sense of deja vu here, girls," said Hera, eyeing the golden apple with narrowed eyes.
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"CHAOS!" came the cry from outside.
 
hance1986 said:
Kidnapping goddesses before it was cool.
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Technically, the kidnapping part of it is iffy in the mythology save from Demeter's point of view.

Hades went to Zeus and got permission to marry Persephone, then Demeter pitched a fit about her daughter ending up in the Underworld and nearly killed everyone on the planet in a fit over it...from all actual accounts from later myths, they were the only really stable couple there among the Olympians with Poseidon's marriage being the only other one that didn't seem on the rocks, but still had a lot of cheating unlike Hades and Persephone.

For a garden, in myth, Persephone did have a large garden in the underworld...
 
Rem Ipsum said:
I do not agree that it is a more vital need than security of health and family. Sex is a luxury, and like all luxuries you don't really need it, even if having it might confer some psychological benefits.

Do people sometimes choose it over other, more important needs? Yes, and we criticise them for it, because it is poor prioritisation.
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I think it might mean sex in terms of reproduction, because it also has sexual intimacy two tiers above.
Vaermina said:
The addendum was only that she would have to spend half her time in the underworld not that she couldn't spend longer if she wished.
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Persephone is required to spend half her time in the underworld because she ate the food of the underworld. She is required to spend half her time with her mother because she throws a fit and tries to starve the world to death when her daughter is gone. While she isn't bound to return to her mother, she still has to.
 
Avernus said:
Also Hades has a reputation for being relatively reasonable, and doesn't have anything against him. It's not like he was going to visit Ares or Zeus.
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Would Ares have that much of a problem with him? He didn't single handedly stop a war in Bialya or anything, and he planned well in advance an attack on the Khandaqi government, even if that plan got interrupted by other circumstances. Aside from that, I'm not sure he's really done more to Ares than call him 'a bit of a dick', and if he can't take that gentle ribbing after 3000 years then he doesn't deserve the mantle of 'god'. Plus, OL fights a lot. Like, a lot. And makes the people around him better at fighting.
 
Empiricist2 said:
Would Ares have that much of a problem with him? He didn't single handedly stop a war in Bialya or anything, and he planned well in advance an attack on the Khandaqi government, even if that plan got interrupted by other circumstances. Aside from that, I'm not sure he's really done more to Ares than call him 'a bit of a dick', and if he can't take that gentle ribbing after 3000 years then he doesn't deserve the mantle of 'god'. Plus, OL fights a lot. Like, a lot. And makes the people around him better at fighting.
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Thing is, if we're going by Greek myth, Ares has a chip on his shoulder, no sense of priorities, and is a bully to boot. Not easy to not accidentally tick off.
 
LapisLantern said:
Persephone is required to spend half her time in the underworld because she ate the food of the underworld. She is required to spend half her time with her mother because she throws a fit and tries to starve the world to death when her daughter is gone. While she isn't bound to return to her mother, she still has to.
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I wonder if there wouldn't be a way to bypass that... if nothing else, Demeter shouldn't have the worship to affect the world on a large scale anymore, should she?
 
Empiricist2 said:
Would Ares have that much of a problem with him?
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It's more Ares just being Ares that's the problem. Both in myth and every DC portrayal I've heard of he's a bloodthirsty warmonger or worse.

In Greek literature, he often represents the physical or violent and untamed aspect of war, in contrast to his sister the armored Athena, whose functions as a goddess of intelligence include military strategy and generalship.[2]​

The Greeks were ambivalent toward Ares: although he embodied the physical valor necessary for success in war, he was a dangerous force, "overwhelming, insatiable in battle, destructive, and man-slaughtering."[3]​ His sons Fear (Phobos) and Terror (Deimos) and his lover, or sister, Discord (Enyo) accompanied him on his war chariot.[4]​ In the Iliad, his father Zeus tells him that he is the god most hateful to him.[5]​
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It would be pretty interesting if Ares is totally a fan of Paul.
He is upteching people, and he's demonstrated such fun new weaponry.

Plus Danner Formula?
A way to basically make fighters the likes of which Spartans would've killed for, en masse (sure, might not be how Paul would conceive of it but I bet you that's how Ares sees it)?

If Ares isn't at least a little giddy at all Paul is doing, I'd be surprised.

...Admittedly then he went and convinced his mom to break up with his dad, but eh.
 
Avernus said:
Athena might like OL, I doubt Ares does.
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Oh definitely. But I doubt that he would actively have a problem with OL like Zeus probably would. More 'I don't approve of everything this guy does, but I'm still replaying that kill of the angel' than 'Murder on sight'. Might be projecting a bit too much civility to him, but I don't think my position is untennable.
 
Empiricist2 said:
Oh definitely. But I doubt that he would actively have a problem with OL like Zeus probably would. More 'I don't approve of everything this guy does, but I'm still replaying that kill of the angel' than 'Murder on sight'. Might be projecting a bit too much civility to him, but I don't think my position is untennable.
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I think that Ares would be more interested in recent events in Shiruta than in a successful ambush on a single target, regardless of the target.

The First of the Fallen made Paul a killer.

Shiruta made Paul a warrior.
 
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