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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Vaermina said:
Why do you assume his teammates are similarly vulnerable?
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Well, if it were me, I would assume that they, being New Gods, and New Gods being vulnerable to Radion, would be weak to Radion like Grayven himself.

Here's a better question.

Graven himself shouldn't even be vulnerable as he shouldn't have New God's biology.

Which is what is required to be vulnerable to the stuff.
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Do you have a citation that vulnerability to Radion is a product of biology, and not a product of New God metaphysique?
 
Vaermina said:
Only conclusion I can come to is that Fatherbox must have slipped in a lot more then it told Graven when it was fixing what he did with Venom Buster.
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That is one thing I noticed: Everything else about the process of turning into a New God has been very slow, but changing from rock monster to more reasonably proportioned Grayven shape seems not to have taken any time at all.

I know a lot of people would find more Grayven grating, but I think it would make sense for Zoat to go back and add a bit of Grayven content to better explain some of the differences between Paragon and Renegade. Things like just after Renegade took the venom buster formula, getting Mr. Tawny, the things made with Fatherbox's help, and things Renegade did with the tech database he got from Stewart's ring. Stuff like that.
 
Crimson Doom said:
That'd be silly, when he can just use his orange ring to fabricate a cyborg eye fueled by orange light that would be far more efficient for seeing.
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Not if the ring allows him to see way more than his normal eyes and he can turn the ring to be eye shapped. Plus is way harder to remove an eye than a ring finger, and it looks cool.

He already used Venom Buster just for being more than human despite the horrible drawbacks. Why not get a better eye that also looks cool?
 
Pinklestia said:
Not if the ring allows him to see way more than his normal eyes and he can turn the ring to be eye shapped. Plus is way harder to remove an eye than a ring finger, and it looks cool.

He already used Venom Buster just for being more than human despite the horrible drawbacks. Why not get a better eye that also looks cool?
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Why would the ring help him see more than a cyborg eye specifically designed for seeing things? The Controllers didn't make it a Power Monocle.
 
Drich said:
Well, if it were me, I would assume that they, being New Gods, and New Gods being vulnerable to Radion, would be weak to Radion like Grayven himself.

Here's a better question.

Do you have a citation that vulnerability to Radion is a product of biology, and not a product of New God metaphysique?
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New Gods are a specific biological race highly different from Humans.
 
Crimson Doom said:
Why would the ring help him see more than a cyborg eye specifically designed for seeing things? The Controllers didn't make it a Power Monocle.
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Cause power rings are awesome and having one for an eye is cool.

Remenber the Venom Buster? The Eye of Greed is a way better upgrade than that and Conquest and Greed go hand to hand anyway.

Plus is a way for Grayven to have emotional spectrum vision.
 
So, let's get away from the salt. How do you expect Amazon interaction to ensue? Vehement Violence? Amorous associations? Pregnant pauses?
 
Pinklestia said:
Cause power rings are awesome and having one for an eye is cool.

Remenber the Venom Buster? The Eye of Greed is a way better upgrade than that and Conquest and Greed go hand to hand anyway.

Plus is a way for Grayven to have emotional spectrum vision.
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problem: Grayven (and New Gods in general) regenerate. Just as the Velocity 9/Garrick formula is washed out of his system by his body 'reseting' itself, it regenerates missing parts. Hell, the hole he cut in himself to purge the Radion taint is already regrowing itself (not as fast as he would like, granted). So if he lost an eye it would grow back. Not sure how long it would take but less than a year I'd guess.
 
Pinklestia said:
Cause power rings are awesome and having one for an eye is cool.

Remenber the Venom Buster? The Eye of Greed is a way better upgrade than that and Conquest and Greed go hand to hand anyway.

Plus is a way for Grayven to have emotional spectrum vision.
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That... isn't even remotely analogous, because physical strength and sense upgrades aren't comparable. What would be a better analogy would be if, given the option for Venom Buster, he instead went for the clearly-inferior Venom. Power Rings are designed for a lot of things, but seeing stuff through them is not one of them. Using a Power Ring as an eye is quite possibly the worst possible option for replacing your eye when you have access to a Power Ring. It would be like having this awesome sword that's indestructible, and using it as an antenna for your television. Even if it could do the job, why use it for that?

Norgarth said:
problem: Grayven (and New Gods in general) regenerate. Just as the Velocity 9/Garrick formula is washed out of his system by his body 'reseting' itself, it regenerates missing parts. Hell, the hole he cut in himself to purge the Radion taint is already regrowing itself (not as fast as he would like, granted). So if he lost an eye it would grow back. Not sure how long it would take but less than a year I'd guess.
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Also this.
 
Vaermina said:
Other then the fact that that's how it is specifically stated to work in DC. :rolleyes:
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Orange Rings canonically absorb magic and can absorb other rings' constructs, capable of being strong enough to absorb even the Guardian's constructs, yet that doesn't happen in this fic. Furthermore, they can charge to 100,000% according to the DC stuff, yet that doesn't happen here either. Just because something is "canon" doesn't mean it's true in this fic.

The main DC verse is different to the world that Grayven is in.
 
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Kaioo said:
Orange Rings canonically absorb magic and green light(capable of doing so from even the Guardians).. yet that doesn't happen in this fic. Just because something is "canon" doesn't mean it's true in this fic.

The main DC verse is different to the world that Grayven is in.
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I swear it's like talking to a brick wall.

Or Vaernina is just playing the long con troll, and I keep falling for it.

Damn.
 
Infraction under rule 3: Be civil
This is getting tedious, if everyone would kindly follow this link I believe it will resolve this discussion regarding Grayven is a new God or not or whatever you are talking about to the full satisfaction of a majority of the readers
 
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Vaermina said:
Other then the fact that that's how it is specifically stated to work in DC. :rolleyes:
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Which you have consistently failed to provide proof of.


Honestly, you make it so easy. You say some pointless shit, stick to it no matter what anybody else says, continue sticking to it without providing proof, and then authoritatively state that this is how things are done, again while providing no proof to back it up.

Troll harder Vaermina. Maybe one day people will take you seriously.
 
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