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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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You know this conversation bring up the idea of what would the superheroes do in a situation where there were no legal authorities or civilization or criminals could be put away? I mean there are several disasters that could cause America and its government and police force to just go away both physical ones like earthquakes tsunamis man-made ones like nuclear war and plague as well as something as simple and believable as economic collapse which could then cause government collapse which would then cause civilized action to collapse as we seen in countries like Venezuela I mean in a country like that what will the superhero do if they try to stop a crime like there's no prisons anymore there's no real thority accept whatever warlord is taking over a region so what do they do? This isn't something that really comes up alot at least not in any of the comics I read.
 
Flash is now my favorite. OL actually relent to his saying. It's also very logical. I'm surprised no one said anything about what OL did in space.
 
Silverias said:
I personally presumed that, immediately upon realizing there was anti-life in action on Earth, OL would kinda kick into overdrive trying to figure out what's going on.
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He looked for Apokoliptian gear after the attack on Shiruta.

In the comics in was the presence of Anti-Life on Earth which attracted Darkseid in the first place.

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bigreader said:
You know, this conversation bring up the idea of what superheroes do in a situation where there are no legal authorities or civilization. I mean, there are several disasters that could cause America and its government and police force to just go away. Physical ones like earthquakes and tsunamis, man-made ones like nuclear war and plague as well as something as simple and believable as economic collapse. In a country like that what would the superhero do? If they try to stop a crime there aren't any prisons any more, there's no real authority except whatever warlord is taking over a region, so what do they do? This isn't something that really comes up a lot, at least not in any of the comics I read.
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The example which comes immediately to mind is No Man's Land, though that was set up so that no one but Batman and Friends would get involved.

I imagine that it would depend on the local infrastructure and their own power level. Superman could brute force solutions to a lot of damage, as could a Lantern or high end magic user. In some instances, exile or penal labour could replace prisons, but an awful lot of people would have to die before most superheroes would in a position to make that judgement call.

If civilisation just vanished? I imagine they'd live with it.

Or there's cat-riding superman.
 
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bigreader said:
You know this conversation bring up the idea of what would the superheroes do in a situation where there were no legal authorities or civilization or criminals could be put away?
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We would see one panel of Superman flying holding building materials under his arm thinking "Luckily I can use my super-speed and super-architect powers to build a prison almost instantly!!" and in the next panel he is already dropping off muggers.

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CnidarianMessiah said:
We would see one panel of Superman flying holding building materials under his hand thinking "Luckily I can use my super-speed and super-architect powers to build a prison almost instantly!!" and in the next panel he is already dropping off muggers.
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Plus, you don't need to do anything fancy if you just need to hold someone for a little while/don't care too much about their living conditions. I'm reminded of a section from the Metropolitan Man, where Superman essentially just digs a gigantic hole and leaves someone at the bottom.
 
This seems like an ideal point to jump into "using superpowers to punch people instead of improving society is less than ideal" speech. If Flash doesn't want Kid Flash to be a soldier (perfectly reasonable position) he should be encouraging, ideally by his own example, his protege to use his powers productively in non-violent ways. Construction, alchemy, academia, etc.
 
Yog said:
This seems like an ideal point to jump into "using superpowers to punch people instead of improving society is less than ideal" speech. If Flash doesn't want Kid Flash to be a soldier (perfectly reasonable position) he should be encouraging, ideally by his own example, his protégé to use his powers productively in non-violent ways. Construction, alchemy, academia, etc.
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Alas, Bart Allen aside Flashes don't retain anything they read at superspeed for more than a few minutes.
 
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"Kid Flash told you I never wanted him involved in this, didn't he?" I nod. "If he'd turned eighteen and he still wanted-." He shakes his head. "Maybe. You know how violent what we do can be. I try keeping him away from the worst of it, let him fight people like Snart who pull their punches. You're a soldier?" He shrugs. "Fine, so's Captain Atom. But I don't want kids learning to be soldiers. They've got to have normal lives outside of this, and.. frankly I hope they give it up. I sure don't want them regarding what you do as 'normal'."
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Whoa. How did a grownup get involved with the Justice League?

I've always like Barry Allen, but this makes me respect him.

I spent the first half of my adult life in the military. What we did was important, and I was good at it. But I made damned sure my kids saw what it was I did, that it wasn't glamorous, and that it was dangerous, often dull, and frequently downright nasty.

That none of my kids followed me into the service is one of my achievements in life.
 
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