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Hm, interesting how an Orange Lantern describes the black light. After all the discussion yesterday about how the power rings of any white color can't detect the black light at all, it's interesting that an avarice enlightened one describes the black as the wanting of nothing.

I think it's because that's how the Light of Want understand it, is attacked by it. Like White, it transcends any single color, and probably expresses itself as a nihilistic expression of that color to each color. Except possibly Blue, because Hope has been established as the bane of both Anti-Life and Black Light independently.
 
I think it's because that's how the Light of Want understand it, is attacked by it. Like White, it transcends any single color, and probably expresses itself as a nihilistic expression of that color to each color. Except possibly Blue, because Hope has been established as the bane of both Anti-Life and Black Light independently.
I'd imagine that the different color rings detect the Black as some form of complete and utter lack of their specific emotion, which is why they're so bad at affecting it. Someone that lacks will can't muster enough to use a green ring. Love has no hold on someone incapable of it. Fear is useless against the fearless. Etc etc.

But, bringing hope to the hopeless? That's what the Blue Light is all about, baby.
 
Like White, it transcends any single color, and probably expresses itself as a nihilistic expression of that color to each color. Except possibly Blue, because Hope has been established as the bane of both Anti-Life and Black Light independently.

I kinda want to see how these would go now. (Though, ah, Blue isn't really the antithesis of Black unless something happened after Blackest Night that I'm not aware of. Green and any other color is: a philosophy that gives you a reason to live, and the resolve to see it through no matter how pointless it seems at the time.)

Red, which seeks to avenge evil deeds, would see Anti-Life as helpless acceptance of injustice because no matter what you do, there is always more injustice. Rage just tires you out to no real effect, so why bother?

Orange, we've seen in this update: Anti-Life is the desire for nothingness, to cease to be. Where Orange wants to be and experience existence, Anti-Life merely suffers from it and seeks an end to it.

Yellow, which seeks to minimize the need to feel fear by inflicting it upon others, would see something in Anti-Life that's caused so much suffering that fear itself has been beaten out of them. What could be worse in the future than the hell they're in right now?

Green, which seeks to stand true to its own principles, would likely see Anti-Life as a viewpoint that nothing is sacred or that no principles can ever be lived up to. Who needs resolve if they have nothing to stand for?

Blue, which seeks to cause its ideal future, would probably find Anti-Life the most abhorrent, as a "proof" that there is no conceivable future where good things happen. Why struggle to create a future that can never be?

Indigo, which seeks to minimize the suffering of others, would see Anti-Life as omnipresent suffering that can never be relieved. The only true relief from pain is the relief of nonexistence. (Which probably makes Indigo the closest to Anti-Life's philosophy; goodness knows both use horribly invasive personality death procedures. I'm not sure if that means Indigo is more vulnerable or more resistant to Anti-Life.)

Violet, which seeks a bond with others for mutual support, would see Anti-Life as evidence that no such bond can exist, that any attempts at such are merely base selfishness. Why seek partners, mentors, or students when at best you'll be giving effort that will never be reciprocated?
 
I'd imagine that the different color rings detect the Black as some form of complete and utter lack of their specific emotion, which is why they're so bad at affecting it. Someone that lacks will can't muster enough to use a green ring. Love has no hold on someone incapable of it. Fear is useless against the fearless. Etc etc.

But, bringing hope to the hopeless? That's what the Blue Light is all about, baby.

Orernge didn't percive Black as a lack of want, but as wanting oblivion. So I suspect it's more like...

Indigo would see Black as 'Existence is Suffering, be compassionate enough to let it end.'

Green as 'Striving to end it all'.


... and so on. Something like that.

I kinda want to see how these would go now. (Though, ah, Blue isn't really the antithesis of Black unless something happened after Blackest Night that I'm not aware of. Green and any other color is: a philosophy that gives you a reason to live, and the resolve to see it through no matter how pointless it seems at the time.)

Red, which seeks to avenge evil deeds, would see Anti-Life as helpless acceptance of injustice because no matter what you do, there is always more injustice. Rage just tires you out to no real effect, so why bother?

Orange, we've seen in this update: Anti-Life is the desire for nothingness, to cease to be. Where Orange wants to be and experience existence, Anti-Life merely suffers from it and seeks an end to it.

Yellow, which seeks to minimize the need to feel fear by inflicting it upon others, would see something in Anti-Life that's caused so much suffering that fear itself has been beaten out of them. What could be worse in the future than the hell they're in right now?

Green, which seeks to stand true to its own principles, would likely see Anti-Life as a viewpoint that nothing is sacred or that no principles can ever be lived up to. Who needs resolve if they have nothing to stand for?

Blue, which seeks to cause its ideal future, would probably find Anti-Life the most abhorrent, as a "proof" that there is no conceivable future where good things happen. Why struggle to create a future that can never be?

Indigo, which seeks to minimize the suffering of others, would see Anti-Life as omnipresent suffering that can never be relieved. The only true relief from pain is the relief of nonexistence. (Which probably makes Indigo the closest to Anti-Life's philosophy; goodness knows both use horribly invasive personality death procedures. I'm not sure if that means Indigo is more vulnerable or more resistant to Anti-Life.)

Violet, which seeks a bond with others for mutual support, would see Anti-Life as evidence that no such bond can exist, that any attempts at such are merely base selfishness. Why seek partners, mentors, or students when at best you'll be giving effort that will never be reciprocated?


Hmm, I could be misremembering Blackest Night, because I'm pretty second hand on that. But Hope trumping the Anti-Life is old.

When Choronzon and Morpheus had their little duel, each became a thing in turn to trump the other one.

Towards the end of the duel Dream became the universe, "All things encompassing all life embracing.'

Choronzon became the Anti-life, "I am the Anti-Life. The Beast of Judgement. I am the Dark at the end of everything. The End of Universes, Gods, Worlds... ... Of Everything."

At which point Morpheus won the duel with "I am Hope."
 
Towards the end of the duel Dream became the universe, "All things encompassing all life embracing.'

Choronzon became the Anti-life, "I am the Anti-Life. The Beast of Judgement. I am the Dark at the end of everything. The End of Universes, Gods, Worlds... ... Of Everything."

At which point Morpheus won the duel with "I am Hope."

I remembered it as Entropy rather than Anti-Life, but it looks like you're right. I wonder if that changed in different publication formats.
 
What are the timelines for him learning to perform more magic? What year for what technique?
And would it be true to guess that only Paragon is destined to become a wizard per se since only he fulfills the prerequisites for becoming one?

By the way, any chance that power ring bands are made from Element X? If not, can the forging technique be improved or made easier with it?
 
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Pretty much this exactly; the ALE boils down to "nothing matters, nothing you do matters, nothing you are matters, so surrender to [ALE HOLDER], resistiance is pointless".
I know you mean Anti Life Equation but I can't help thinking of some random drunk getting severely confused about all these emotional zombies becoming his slave so long as he has an ale in hand.

"Not even you could be mad enough to think you can command Anti-Life!"

Uxas: "Hold my beer."

And so the New God of Ale Holding was born...
 
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Holy fuck, the Light cannot possibly be green lighting this right? Luthor can't be that fucking stupid can he?
They're card-carrying super villains dispite none of them having anything in their background that forced them to be, dispite having a genius frontman (compulsive Pastry serial larceny aside) capable of enacting most of their claimed goals via more subtle, legal-or-grey-area means who are (potentially literally) in bed with the forces of hell,
who in cannon funded one of their membership building an orbital mass driver intended to kill off the majority of the population they want to rule and reduce themselves to neo-barbarity with no support structure remains for themselves...

Of course the organisation as a whole is that bloody stupid!
 
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the round is touching the location
I'm guessing this meant "isn't touching"

"Opening up his skull seems like a bad idea."
Really? Under normal circumstances, sure, but you're already continuously rebuilding his brain. If it would actually lead to a solution, then skull-opening is comparatively easy to fix.
 
"Opening up his skull seems like a bad idea."
Really? Under normal circumstances, sure, but you're already continuously rebuilding his brain. If it would actually lead to a solution, then skull-opening is comparatively easy to fix.
I'm imagining a hemophobic Orange Lantern who heals people so that they don't have to look at all their gross insides.
 
Grind (part 21)
2nd November
22:50 GMT -5


I frown. "No it doesn't. BL-!"

Alan comes in through the door, plate armour style blue construct armour around him. Lantern Stewart and I barely had to spend any time beating that habit into him at all. "What have you got?"

"Karl Wilson. He's been mind controlled, and his controller is trying to make his brain collapse. His emotional resonance is almost nonexistent. I've been trying to infuse him with orange light with partial success, but it's not enough. He needs your help."

He nods. "Of course. Ah… How?"

"See the symbols I've put around his body? Copy those. And.. try and.. project things that make you hopeful into-." I put a construct manacle around the woman's arm as she lunges for me, the sigil on her forehead now glitching in the same way Mr Wilson's was. "Into him."

"Alright." He raises his right hand, blue cables extending from his ring and attaching themselves to Mr Wilson. "What's her story?"

"She's a member of the Order of Stone. Evil worshipping warrior monks." She swings up her right leg, kicking at my head. I catch her ankle in another construct manacle and then float her back against the far wall. "And-. Actually." I put a construct muzzle on her. "She's got the same thing he has, but it doesn't seem to be affecting her in the same way."

Alan squints slightly. He still doesn't find fine detail as easy as I do, but blue lines in the pattern already traced by my construct begin moving across Mr Wilson's skin. "I.. think I can feel what you're talking about. What is that?"

"Not sure, but it doesn't look too healthy. Any joy?"

"Black light infection fading, Orange Lantern. Mister Wilson will be restored shortly."

"Blue Lantern?"

"She's been getting more talkative the longer I wear her. Should I be worried?"

"Not unless she turns yellow. Fear isn't useful without a yellow ring."

"Alright then."

The blue ring's right. I can see the black lines fading slightly. Maybe if we had other colours to go with it we could go faster? Seems logical, but I don't particularly feel like having a tête-à-tête with Sinestro, so… That can wait. I reach into the sarcophagus and recover my ring, because I don't think dealing with that should be the first thing Mr Wilson has to do when he awakens.

Rings, total charge remaining?

Fifty four percent.

Drat.

"This isn't a viable long term solution."

"Seems to be working fine to me."

"One Blue Lantern in existence. Two Orange Lanterns on Earth, one of whom has agreed not to use his ring until his trial date. Between zero and four Green Lanterns. Orange Lanterns don't come more powerful than me, and I couldn't purge him on my own. That means we need to grab… Green Lantern A is on Earth at the moment, right?"

"I haven't spoken to him since our last training session."

"Even if three of us makes it faster, that means it takes three Lanterns to fix. Per person. We need a better solution-" The last black strands evaporate, and the colours behind them surge-.

I step back, cancelling my infusion constructs. Alan glances my way.

"That it done?"

"Hope's a little less… Dangerous than avarice. Give him a moment or two."

Ring, is his brain still collapsing?

Decay has ceased.

Restore his brain to its original organic state. I'm.. not exactly sure what happens to a human who has not-exactly-organic parts to their brain for a prolonged period, but I don't have any reason to find out.

Compliance.

Mr Wilson's eyes snap open. "Uuuuuuumgh?"

I transform the sarcophagus into a camping bed and set it down on the floor. "Okay, Blue Lantern, that should do."

Alan withdraws his hand, his construct fading. "How are you doing, sir?"

"Uh?" He shudders. "Like-. Like everything I've ever tried has been a total failure. Oh God."

"Sir, do you remember your name?"

"Um. Karl. Karl Wilson."

"Do you know where you are?"

"Aaaah…" He looks around, spotting the woman attached to the wall. "Wh-?"

"Mister Wilson, please try to focus. I appreciate that you've been through a trying time, but I need to assess your mental state."

"Right, right, sorry. No." He shakes his head. "No, I don't. I don't… I don't remember…"

"Don't worry, sir. That's probably for the best."

"Oh. Oh God, what did I do?"

"That we know about, one act of petty theft. I-."

Alan puts his right hand on my chest. I stop talking. "Which wasn't your fault, and neither was anything else you did while you were being controlled."

Mr Wilson looks stunned for a moment. "Ah. Yeah. Of course not."

"Now, I realise that you've been through a traumatic experience, but when you've had a chance to-."

He smiles. "Actually, I feel pretty good right now. If you want to ask me any questions, you can go right ahead."

I glance at Alan for a moment. "Thank you, Mister Wilson, but I think we should probably wait until you're in a police station." He nods cheerfully. "Blue Lantern, if you'd be so good as to escort him outside?" Alan offers Mr Wilson a hand up. He takes it, and they walk out of the room. I dismiss the bed construct and turn back to the woman. "And now you. What exact-?"

Ah. Darn.

I lift her body off the wall, pick up the statue and follow Alan out of the building.
 
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He no-sold the Anti-Life Equation?
I think this was well foreshadowed. Orange enlightenment is the constant passive ability to be fully aware of how your desires intertwine with themselves and all your thoughts, feelings, and reasoning. You can't insert Purpose=Failure into him since its not consistent and he has at least twice now enforced self consistency merely by thinking. For the same reason he couldn't focus on short-term desires to dig up the river without thinking about the long term impact, you can't force him to think about his desires in a way that's incongruous to his normal reasoning.
 
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He no-sold the Anti-Life Equation?

Beyond what everyone else has said, this was clearly just a piece of the Anti-Life Equation. Much easier to fight off. I imagine that while Paul could fight off the whole thing, it would likely take minutes, assuming nobody's currently trying to kill him.

EDIT: Another thought I just had is that it might have been even easier because Alan was right there. Hope is pretty antithetical to the entire concept of Anti-Life.
 
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