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Man, the Olympian marriage situation is worse than a tragic telenovela.

When haephastus said that none of them can get divorces, is that due to the fact that the marriages were decreed by Zeus? Or is it some type of cosmic bond deal where the universe/belief/reality keeps them together?
In any case, since Zeus doesn't seem to stop be a dick (*glances nervously at the cloudless sky), we need Hera to do her counseling-magic.
Gods having new God-babies would be cool, and probably something Eris would support.
 
I've never met Zagreus-"

"He works on a game reserve in Kenya.
The fact that the Olympians are just… hanging around the world doing their own thing will never cease to be amusing.

But rather than buy a flashy car, he wanted to change the way he treated the dead. He consulted a lot of people on what they thought that a God of the Dead should do, and unlike a lot of gods he actually listened.
Wonder if he has read Reaper Man?

"None of us can get divorces.
Hera managed and she is supposedly the expert on the subject.
 

Considering Hades in DC comics is evil,
, commands demons, and tortures souls for all eternity who don't deserve it, I think it's safe to say that this "oops, accidental kidnapping of a wife" is not the canon story of DC.

Although I'm unaware if there is a canon version of the marriage, for all I know Hades and Persephone are happily married despite him being an evil fuck in the DC franchise.

That's assuming that Eros is Aphrodite's son, instead of a primordial Titan, peer to Gaia.

That would be primordial, Titans are the second generation, the one between the Primordials and the Olympians.
 
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When haephastus said that none of them can get divorces, is that due to the fact that the marriages were decreed by Zeus?

Ok, I am a little confused here, if Hera can divorce the king of the gods himself and Heaphi says:

in regards to a divorce with Aphrodite then what does this line refer to?:

Hera managed and she is supposedly the expert on the subject.
I found the snippet where the issue was discussed.

"Do you.. intend to follow your mother's example?"

"My marriage was commanded by Zeus. I'm not sure if the reasons for it still matter, but I'm not going to try my luck with him now."
So yeah; it's because Zeus commanded it, and none of them want to ask him permission for a divorce given that he's a lot more likely to have a Zeus-style divine temper tantrum than to say yes. Especially because Hera divorced him.
 
Actually depending on how you view consent and false consent/duress, Zeus technically would have been the one to rape them both, as Hades consent was only predicated on Persephone's consent.

Another Rape by Zeus? That's just Tuesday.

Although, I must say, it is the one of the most weird ones thereof, whats with the swan & golden rain & whatnot.
 
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I found the snippet where the issue was discussed.

So yeah; it's because Zeus commanded it, and none of them want to ask him permission for a divorce given that he's a lot more likely to have a Zeus-style divine temper tantrum than to say yes. Especially because Hera divorced him.

Jeez, Zeus. Stop being a prick.

Also, can't he just ask Hera for help? She was encouraging him to sleep around anyway, wasn't she? She would probably love to help.
 
Cronus
in mind of Dwemer-built
in mind of a Dwemer-built
Thank you, corrected.
as chaste of me
This wording seems...odd.
Maybe, but it's an accurate usage.
Wonder if he has read Reaper Man?
Sadly, that book doesn't exist in this setting.
Hera managed and she is supposedly the expert on the subject.
Hera left Zeus and unilaterally declared herself to be divorced. It's not the same as there being an agreed upon process in place.
 
You know if Hades wants a kid what's stopping him from recreating the Ritual that created Diana? Come on Paul! Aren't you meant to be for tech and magic proliferation between allies? This is clearly another case where that is needed!
 
Am I the only which want to see more Hera? And maybe know how her divorce-story with Zeus ended?
 
Considering Hades in DC comics is evil,
, commands demons, and tortures souls for all eternity who don't deserve it, I think it's safe to say that this "oops, accidental kidnapping of a wife" is not the canon story of DC.

Although I'm unaware if there is a canon version of the marriage, for all I know Hades and Persephone are happily married despite him being an evil fuck in the DC franchise.



That would be primordial, Titans are the second generation, the one between the Primordials and the Olympians.
I'm not going to lie...seeing that pathetic excuse for armor on that woman actually hurt worse than Hades as Satan. Gotta love armor that literally leaves every single vulnerable spot wide open.
 
I'm not going to lie...seeing that pathetic excuse for armor on that woman actually hurt worse than Hades as Satan. Gotta love armor that literally leaves every single vulnerable spot wide open.

I have read all 226 issues of the 1987-2006 Wonder Woman run. That particular run is easily the worst. You think that's bad? Check out what Diana was wearing at the time.



Yes. Someone thought this was an appropriate outfit for Wonder Woman. It looks like something scraped together in a no-budget porn parody!
 
I have read all 226 issues of the 1987-2006 Wonder Woman run. That particular run is easily the worst. You think that's bad? Check out what Diana was wearing at the time.



Yes. Someone thought this was an appropriate outfit for Wonder Woman. It looks like something scraped together in a no-budget porn parody!

Yeh, it's not pretending to be armor, and honestly looks sort of BSDM-ish, which actually does go back to Wonder Woman's roots, so...

It's not good, but it annoys me less then the armor.
 
I have read all 226 issues of the 1987-2006 Wonder Woman run. That particular run is easily the worst. You think that's bad? Check out what Diana was wearing at the time.



Yes. Someone thought this was an appropriate outfit for Wonder Woman. It looks like something scraped together in a no-budget porn parody!
I mean...it looks like it covers about the same amount as her USA swim suit that they try to pass off as divine armor.

I notice his muscles have muscles.
Shhhh! We don't talk about a man's muscle muscles in polite society.
 
Or maybe just adopt one? I'm sure there is some orphan somewhere in the world he could appear before and raise as his own without someone noticing their absence.
I was going to say something about an immortal adopting a mortal ... but as he's the Greek God of the Underworld that could actually work.
 
Grind (part 3)
29th October
14:44 GMT +1


"I know you said that technology isn't part of your domain, but I still don't understand why it isn't."

Vulcan looks around from the volcanic resonance engine he was cooing over. "Really? It's a pretty simple concept. Primal concepts have the largest impact on both the arcane world and the people living in it. The latter becoming increasingly important in more recent times."

Hephaestus pours more metal into a mould. They're making another metamaterial, something heavy as heck but super strong. "There's been lightning for as long as this world has existed. Darkness for longer."

"I know that, it's why enchanting swords is easy but enchanting guns is hard. But isn't smithing a lot more recent than everything else?"

Vulcan pushes a couple of levers downwards, and runes on the engine start glowing fiery red. "Isn't love?"

"Maybe, but sexual reproduction is a billion years old. Tool use is nothing like that old."

Hephaestus waves a tool a little like a coat hanger over his metal, the molten liquid visibly cooling as he does so. "Tool use is older than the humans who use most of them. And that matters more than you might think."

Vulcan nods. "There's a reason why we gods all look human. Before you, there was just power without form-."

Donna doesn't look impressed. "Are you saying we literally built gods in our own image?"

"I doubt it was a conscious process. But, in places, your ideas caused the Dreaming to… I'm not sure how you'd describe it. There was power, but you gave it form. Definition. That process eventually gave rise to the Titans. And because they already had powerful ties to the material world, moving from the Dreaming to the material world was simple for them."

"I know about the titans. I saw Oceanus this summer. Giant elemental monsters, who were really powerful because they embodied the most primal concepts."

Hephaestus shakes his head. "No. Not monsters. Not.. colossal animals, like some big elementals can be. The titans basically came from early humans, remember. And some parts of human life are so universal to your species that they had to share those elements themselves. Like breeding, for example. Or fighting for power."

Donna nods, a little irritated at the speed of the narration. "The titans begat the gods, resulting in a worldwide supernatural war which saw the titans lose to their children and either be killed or imprisoned."

Hephaestus turns his casting out, and then picks it up to look it over. "You're missing the point. Each god is a combination of the arcane characteristics of their parents, paired with some aspect of the world as experienced by humans. Humans have been making tools for long enough that nurturing and commanding could combine into crafting. It doesn't come up much these days, but flint tools are as much a part of…" He glances at Vulcan, who is hooking up his newly tested engine to an assemblage of some kind. "Our domain as metal tools. But they've got history. We've both tried, but our instinct for metalworking doesn't extend to circuitry."

"On the other hand, it can help with novel applications. Since you-" Vulcan nods in my direction. "-shared that idea about using jovium as a heat conductor, we've been building all sorts of things."

Hephaestus slots his casting into a rack with a dozen others like it, then pulls a chain to turn the pulleys to move it out into the middle of a clear area in the middle of the complex.

Hm. "So… You aren't the Gods of Technology."

"No." Vulcan picks up something that looks like a large bore rifle. "And we can't learn to become the Gods of Technology. But we can learn technology."

"From what you were saying about god breeding, would it follow that one of your offspring would be the God of Technology?"

"Hm." Hephaestus stops pulling and frowns as he thinks about it. "He wasn't, but at that point 'technology' wasn't much more than what was covered by my domain. And his mother…"

"Um."

"Probably not the right mix."

Donna frowns. "Just one? The myths-."

"I'm a married crippled smith who earned Zeus' disfavour. The goddesses weren't exactly lining up." He waves his right hand dismissively before clumping awkwardly back towards Vulcan. "Sometimes they named me as the father as a joke, or when they didn't want to get a mortal lover in trouble. Trust me, the real number isn't high."

"So who was he? And.. who was his mother?"

A very faint smile graces his lips. "I read everything I can on science and technology. I teach anyone with a mind to learn and a will to use their knowledge. And you need to ask me who my son's mother was?"

Donna blinks, shocked. "The myths about Erichtonius say-."

"Myths… Say a lot of things. I wouldn't put too much store in them." He comes to a halt next to Vulcan and turns around. "Zeus ate her mother because he feared her power. What do you think he would have done to her son?"

"So… You're saying that she's not a virgin?"

He shrugs. "We never married. And she couldn't acknowledge him…"

"So what would be?"

"What?"

"If learning and craft don't make technology, what does?"

Vulcan lowers his gun, rolling his eyes. "Can't we leave the theoretical theologism until we're well into our cups?"

"I was just wondering-?"

"As I said, the sort of technology that exists today wasn't a thing when Erichtonius was born. With no metaphysical source of power, he wasn't much more capable than a demigod. But… Athena is a war goddess as much as she is a patron of classical learning. I'm not sure that he'd have been technology even if he'd been born today."

"Technology. Someone sees a problem, comes up with a way to deal with it… And then a few years later it's being put to a use they never envisaged and society has shifted around it in unplanned and uncontrollable ways…" I smile. "How do you feel about E-"

"No."

"-ris?"

Vulcan raises his gun again. "Test seventy five, heat transfer gun mark four. Firing."

Hephaestus nods. "Thank you."

Runes along the sides of the gun glow, and there's a faint hiss as the air inside superheats and a projectile rockets from the muzzle, striking Hephaestus' metal barricade dead centre. Molten metal explodes away from the impact point, and I can see it continuing to dribble down from the point of impact.

Hephaestus tilts his head to the side. "Some damage."

"Hm." Vulcan smiles, then pulls another lever on his engine. For a moment, noth-.

The projectile flares brilliant white for an instant, and I get construct shields up just about quickly enough to prevent us getting enshrouded in vaporised metal!

"Hm." Hephaestus takes a moment to examine the dripping remains of his metal plates. "And it does that to four inch thick gromril. What do you say we try it against enchanted plates next?"
 
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