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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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readalie said:
Wow, things are certainly heating up. I wonder if this is where Tula died in canon...?
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Nope. To quote the YJ Wiki:

On the other side of the portal, Tula did not so well. She was overpowered and brought to Marduk's Temple. Blockbuster chained her to a pillar near the well where Tiamat was trapped. Beta Squad, led by Nightwing, arrived on the scene, but Klarion's magic was too strong for them. He explained to them he wanted to use his own magic to revive the alien weapon, but he might just as well siphon off Tula's.

She was helpless as Klarion revived Tiamat, and saw what he was really after: the Tablet of Destiny, an artifact of order, to which Tiamat had been previously bound. Klarion and Teekl escaped with the tablet, leaving Beta to fight the water-snake form of Tiamat. Though Tula believed it to be impossible to defeat her, they did. However, that water-serpent was not Tiamat's real form, and she arose from the pool in all her glory. This form, too was defeated, finally giving Nightwing the time to free Aquagirl. Witnessing the rise of a third form of Tiamat, Aquagirl realized there was only one person that could stop her, with the Tablet of Destiny gone and Klarion's other equipment destroyed.

Using her magic, she charged at the well while Beta Squad fought Tiamat and her underlings. They succeeded in driving her back in the pool, and Tula gave her all to contain her. Nightwing expected her to stop, but she had to go on, she explained. Marduk sacrificed himself in order to stop Tiamat—and she had to do the same. She did not let anyone stop her as she amped up her magic. After a final farewell to her friends and a declaration of love to Garth, she finished the ritual, locking Tiamat and herself under rubble. Tempest and Aqualad arrived only moments too late. They recovered Tula's body from under the debris.
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Mr Zoat said a long time ago that the circumstances leaded to her death have almost certainly already been butterflied away.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Ophidian, back in the lantern please.

Agent?

I know what I'm doing.

I reach into my armour and pull off the hot-to-the-touch Spell Eater.

Probably.
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Idiot.

You don't live as a greed elemental, you can split the connection whenever you want, as you just demonstrated. You're asking Siskin to live a fear elemental permanently.

The dude wants the sweet release of death. This would be so much easier if you'd just let him have it, then deal with the terror thing as an enemy, instead of a reluctant ally.

Even if this works out in the end, I'm still going to consider it one of Paul's biggest mistakes.

The one time when he got a plan into his head and was utterly determined to force it to happen, utterly ignoring as the plan fell apart around him, mindlessly trying to force it to work anyway.
 
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Avernus said:
That assumes that OL actually knows how to kill him.
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Well, Siskin seems pretty willing to just let the terror thing eat him. And they do have a magic containment device, don't they? Or is that not finished baking yet?

Direct emotional attacks on the connections linking the puppets to the Thing would be a good place to start. Sever all the puppet-strings (with Ophy's help) and move everyone in the whole village out of range.

Then Fate can just magic it to death or something.

My issue isn't that he hasn't fixed the problem yet, it's that he refuses to realize that the plan he's pushing is becoming more unworkable by the minute.
He's yet to seriously attempt anything else because he's so focused on talking siskin into taking over. Despite the fact that Siskin A: doesn't want to, and B: might not even be able to.

Oh, and C: probably isn't sane or stable enough to be trusted with that level of power anyway.

The greed-breath thing seemed to disrupt it's control, so direct metaphysical attacks seem to be the way to go.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
Because just because you've found one invisible assailant… Empathic vision's blocked, so I can't tell if they're being directly controlled or just motivated by inserted fear. "Kaldur, Garth, Tula! It's me!"
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The first "because" here is unnecessary, jarring, and confusing.

Ah fu-.
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The period here is unnecessary.

They're overwhelming it
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! Putting so much force into it… I dread to think the amount of raw power that takes. Okay, construct armour's gone. At my default resilience, any of the Atlanteans can beat me down. Why aren't they? Breathing hard, I raise my head to meet Kaldur's eyes. His tattoos are glowing just about as hard as they can, his stance... This is as much as he can do.

I hope?

"You fear."

I.. sort of.. flop around. "Beryl?"
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(Emphasis mine): Wait...since when was he lying on the ground?

I've felt every fear exactly as it was felt by people paralysed by the intensity of their fears and I've felt it all the time.
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Needs a comma after "and".

"I only hope-" I turn as Siskin switches to using Tula. "-is that when it's finally finished I might finally experience oblivion.
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This should either be "My only hope is" or "I only hope that", not "I only hope is that"
 
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The only thing I can think about is holy crap he's going for that second Emotional Enlightenment.

...Attain Fear Enlightenment and hey guess what? I just did it again. Now get over yourself already
 
Stroth said:
He's got a sword that can kill literally anything.
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That's assuming there's a corporeal body to hit. Siskin is trapped in the leylines.

Also, again, No, the containment seal is not ready, but it will soon.

He can disrupt the elemental's connection to things, but that's nowhere near the same as actually harming it, particularly when it's on the leylines. Then there's the risk of a battle releasing the elemental.

So long as Paul can keep the collateral contained (he can), he really is loosing nothing by trying to save the guy until the viable plan (containment seal) is ready.

And it's the heroic thing to do.

Ask yourselves this: would Superman try to help Siskin? would Batman?
 
aabbcc said:
He needs to hit something with the sword, he can't just wave it at the air and expect it to kill something that's not even physically present.
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"Look, the Sword is perfectly harmless unless I hit something with it."

<waves Sword in air>

"ARRGHH!"

"Aiiiie!"

"AHHHGH!

"Ummm...like, ah, random invisible wandering spirits, apparently. Sorry guys."
 
SaltyWaffles said:
The first "because" here is unnecessary, jarring, and confusing.
The period here is unnecessary.
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I disagree.
(Emphasis mine): Wait...since when was he lying on the ground?
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Since just before he noted that his construct armour was gone. He was too out of it to comment on it at the time.
Needs a comma after "and".
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Wrong.
This should either be "My only hope is" or "I only hope that", not "I only hope is that"
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Thank you, corrected.
Stroth said:
He's got a sword that can kill literally anything.
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Actually... No. He doesn't. The first time the First was 'killed' by it he incarnated in Greece as a Human. The SI knows that. Do you really think incarnating the Terror Thing is a good idea?

Grayven does not know this.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Actually... No. He doesn't. The first time the First was 'killed' by it he incarnated in Greece as a Human. The SI knows that. Do you really think incarnating the Terror Thing is a good idea?

Grayven does not know this.
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Sounds like we can expect somebody to come Sab-back on the Renegade side. Thank you for Klarion things up.
 
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