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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Mr Zoat said:
The Mr Talbot takes a seat to my right and the blacks sit to my left.
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"Then", "Blacks"

Mr Zoat said:
He pulls a ring binder out of his briefcase and pushes it in my direction. "I handed Jean a data stick containing a record copy of our investigation. That's a summary; a damning indictment of nearly out entire legislative and judicial system."
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"recorded", "our"

Mr Zoat said:
"Ignoring procedural issued.
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"issues"

Mr Zoat said:
"I'm a little.. surprised to hear to suggest that. Being a police officer."
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"you"
 
Ganurath said:
Better question: What's Renegade's Constantine going to do when Britain falls into a magical civil war between psychics and Satanists?
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...run for office?

I have this nightmarish vision of John getting extremely drunk as a result of these revelations and waking up to find his name's on the ballot for MP.

Basically an errant comment about, 'Even I could do better, and that's saying something!' And then someone asks him how he's qualified and a grassroots movement starts right in the pub.

Scarily enough, there's probably going to be a significant amount of people who want a demon hunter/exorcist/(mostly-)white hat sorcerer in office after this shit.
 
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SwiftRosenthal said:
...But, if that storyline first appeared in Hellblazer, and Paul was the only one of the two Orange Lanterns to have regular contact with Constantine, why is Grayven the one who knows it's an actual thing?

(it's been a while, okay)
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Because like with Match, Paul didn't just care enough to try to fix it. It took doing something nice for Superboy and finding a working smart hologram of Superman father to Paragon finally do something about it.

Because the excuse of "lack of kriptonian database" started to feel flat as time passed.
 
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Slayer Anderson said:
...run for office?

I have this nightmarish vision of John getting extremely drunk as a result of these revelations and waking up to find his name's on the ballot for Prime Minister.

Basically an errant comment about, 'Even I could do better, and that's saying something!' And then someone asks him how he's qualified and a grassroots movement starts right in the pub.

Scarily enough, there's probably going to be a significant amount of people who want a demon hunter/exorcist/(mostly-)white hat sorcerer in office after this shit.
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I'd be okay with him as President of the UK.
 
Slayer Anderson said:
...run for office?

I have this nightmarish vision of John getting extremely drunk as a result of these revelations and waking up to find his name's on the ballot for Prime Minister.
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MP, not PM. The PM doesn't get elected. Ministers of Parliment are elected. The Prime Minister is then selected by the ruling party/coalition, and serves until they are no-confidenced, resign, or are dismissed by the Crown.

Also as bad as things are? JOHN CONSTANTINE?! as PM would probably be a cure that is worse than the current disease.
 
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The Bushranger said:
MP, not PM. The PM doesn't get elected. Ministers of Parliment are elected. The Prime Minister is then selected by the ruling party/coalition, and serves until they are no-confidenced, resign, or are dismissed by the Crown.

Also as bad as things are? JOHN CONSTANTINE?! as PM would probably be a cure that is worse than the current disease.
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Fixed, sorry. An especially egregious mistake considering I actually do know how the UK's political system works. I'll put that down to 3:00 AM madness on my part.

...and yeah, John as basically any form of elected official would probably be bad. I merely proposed it on the basis that it would be hilarious (as watched from a safe distance), and given that DC-verses have a history of electing Lex Luthor to the Presidency. It seemed appropriately crazy for something that could happen on the other side of the pond.
 
Maxx Crowley said:
Wait...when was this?
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Mr Zoat said:
Rob squints. "Can we get back to how the entire British government is full of Demon worshipping fascists?" His eyes open and he looks at Beryl then at me. "Did you, like, know that already?"

"I don't know how widespread it is. One of my uncles was a Mason and I don't think he would have been involved in anything like that. John said that the actual problematic ones were a small group, and the rest were probably just acting out of 'club loyalty'."

Kaldur nods. "In any case, Batman and Doctor Fate are better placed to perform an investigation than we are."

"Batman's own version of the Tarkin Doctrine."

Tula and Garth glance at each other, then Garth looks at me. "I do not know what that means."

Beryl tries to follow my train of thought. "Grand Moff Tarkin was a character in the film Star Wars. The Tarkin Doctrine was his belief that the Empire could keep the galaxy in line using the fear of massive retaliation."

I nod. "When Batman started in Gotham, the police force and government were massively corrupt. Now, they're… Well, significantly less so. Not because everyone got arrested, that would just have caused everything to break down. No. He went after the worst offenders, the ones who thought they were immune to any retaliation. By taking them down, he showed that no one was safe. The result? Petty corruption dropped to nearly nothing, because no one wanted to risk drawing his attention. Now, Gotham's not a great place to live, but it isn't much more corrupt than other places and it's getting better all the time." I make a shrugging gesture with my hands. "I'm not Nabu's biggest fan, but if I was an evil wizard he'd scare the shit out of me."
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Also @Mr Zoat I was rereading S3 and I noticed that here:
Mr Zoat said:
"I've got to go and explain to Green Lantern, the one from the forties and the man who sponsored my membership of the team, and.. gave me his personal lantern so I could function as a superhero… Exactly what I thought I was doing."
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Paul told Jane about Alan, did it slip her mind when they went to meet him in this episode?

Also about this:
Mr Zoat said:
Oh, damn it! I was going to stop just outside the Sol system to mark… Going outside it after completing my time in service! Slipped my mind. Ugh. Ring, make a note to remind me to stop there on my way back.
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Did Paul using Instant Transmition ment caused him to bypasse the ring-reminder, and if so why didn't the ring him before he did it?
 
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Maxx Crowley said:
Wait...when was this?
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After the thing with the fear elemental and were they learned Julian was innocent.

However I don't think Batman fucked up.

Batman and NABU took care of things and NABU took down quite a few of the worse offenders as implied by Zatara.

Batman probably did in Britain what he did in Gottam, he went after the most powerful, the ones that would be beyond retaliation and then unleashed Nabu on them. The implied threat of their demise would then force the rest to tone down their shitty behavior.

And Constantine probably took care of everyone else that didn't listen.
 
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What are the odds that Paragon timeline Constantine would deal with the Caligula Club thing himself now that he's, you know, massively overpowered? Once he gets the two opposing magics in him to stop quarreling and start cooperating.

Mind, I'm not saying he'd do it out of the kindness of his heart, but that he'd do it because they piss him off.
 
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