You misunderstood: why is he going THERE? As opposed to some other random patch of space.
unrelated random thought: I wonder if he can assimilate beings stuck to the godwall
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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unrelated random thought: I wonder if he can assimilate beings stuck to the godwall
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- United states
Not sure if that's a good idea considering what nearly happened to Grayven.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
- Location
- Australia
What nearly happened to Grayven?
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- There
If I recall correctly he nearly got stuck in the Source Wall during Stars Crossed.
- Location
- Somewhere out there
Moreover, Vega (that is, Alpha Lyrae) isn't a cluster our universe. It's a single, very young star (~1/10 the age of Sol) with an accretion disc and possibly some planets. It might (or might not, there's evidence in both directions) have been part of a cluster at some point in the past, but it's certainly not now.
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- Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun
Why are you bring it up here, in a thread about a fanfic? You sound like someone who really, really wants to win an argument on the internet, but does not have an actual, relevant point to make. As in looking back at the comment thread you are engaging in actual, bad faith debating here. Let me point out to you where you went wrong.If I was going by this fanfiction, I wouldn't have mentioned 5 rings that have not and possibly never will show up in this fic.
And if I were going to this story, I wouldn't have to go by the fac, I'd go by Power Ring Blue Paul who obviously has more functionality than life support and flight, or did the repeated trauma of all those immensely silly morality debates scar you enough that you forgot about him?
This is a comment in regards to a scene in the latest episode where Cornwall Bay is offered a chance to train with a Orange Lantern Ring. The scene in question takes place in With this Ring, a fanfic based on the Young Justice continuity. NOT Everything ever mentioned in a DC Intellectual Property, and the Kitchen Sink, a version of Earth 16.
This is an excerpt where you ignore the context of what the other person is actually saying to put on your nerd hat and sprout lots of irrelevant facts about Lanterns rings that have no relevance whatsoever to how they work as shown in this story.
This is you having derailed the topic, as not the conversation is not about anything relevant to the recent events anymore, but power rings in general. Good job there, stsword!
This is you pulling a Vaermina level head banger, since the image you posted as proof Spencer1519 is wrong seems to support his assertion that Blue Lanterns have access to everything but the ranged stuff "unable to fire" much more than the "nothing but environmental shields and flight" you are talking about.Not according to Saint Walker-
Flight and protection from the vacuum of space is a far cry from "a flying, super strong, super tough, battle cleric with nearly limitless utility."
This is Spencer giving even more more corroberation to his assertion.
This. This here is where is you become the King of the Wanker-Doodles, Lord of Bad Faith Debating. You are the one who decided to bring in all the irrelevant non Earth 16 'facts' instead of say, referencing the Blue Lantern that actually showed up in the story as a rubric of what they could or could not do. So when some one else brings up inconvenient stuff that happened elsewhere, you try to dismiss it because it comes from a 'continuity you don't actually care about' !?!
Let me lay it out for you, all those factoids you like to spout from every other continuity but Earth-16? Most of the time when you dump them in the thread, I don't care about them. Because chances are, they did not happen in Earth 16 DC, and are more likely to confuse the issue than grant any sort of clarity.
That depends on their durability. If Rings are all that, crank your personal defenses up, and use yourself as a kinetic warhead. Start swiss cheesing the ship until its structural integrity is kaput, or trash specific systems like engines. And a capital ship 'peel apart' a man size target moving at speed is not something I would expect. I would expect the weapons that can target something that small a flying brick could tank, and the main weapons not being designed to accurately hit something that small in close, or even be able to maneuver to make an attempt.
His point was that unlike the Green Lanterns who have Hard Light shields and then die, Paul does stuff like Wear power armor first, with Hard Light shields outside. He has more layers than the average lantern, and the power armor does not care about specifically anti-lantern weapons.
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- United states
Think you are underestimating super advanced civilizations. Just because Lanterns are at the top of tool when it comes to technology doesn't mean that they are the only ones. In case people forgot Grayven, a guy with toughness on par with Superman and a new god was seriously hurt with one shot to the face by tech created by Starro's.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
If fights take more than a few seconds, a Greenie's inability to quickly deal with someone who actually can hurt them would likely lead to lots of Greenie deaths.
Why not? Lantern rings can heal, and getting hurt will likely make a Red Lantern mad. So long as they don't die, bringing a Red Lantern to near death likely will make them stronger. Not permanently, but still stronger.Because I don't see Reds coming back from near-death stronger than ever.
An easy solution is that the star Alpha Lyrae is somewhere else, and the constellation Vega is actually pointing at some other cluster that happens to be in the same direction. It's not like the people who named constellations could reliably distinguish clusters of stars from individual stars.
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- Somewhere out there
An excellent point. There are a whole lot of stars in the general direction of the constellation Lyra.
Cherico
Machine
Really? Really Pauls going to risk his life, his core in a place that could kill him over 2 freaking girls? Really? They have anti lantern weapontry, they outnumber him by the billions, he will not have his needed support network he wont have a support network period what could possibly make all of this remotely worth the effort!
I'm going to look them up and......
I retract my statement and completely understand carry on.
I'm going to look them up and......
I retract my statement and completely understand carry on.
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- Just hanging
History in both reality and fiction have shown that men will just do about anything if given enough reason/motivation/etc. if they need any in the first place. Paul already knows what motivates him; altruism, legacy, innovation, and beautiful women. Though what we were told about the Vega system means Paul is going to have to be very careful, more or less be even more well prepared, and now the tutorial is over and the difficulty spike is going to suck.
Not only is he going to manage the resources needed to build the Orange Lantern Corp but the others as well since they don't exist yet, recruit possible members and train them, forge alliances, all while dealing with enemies capable of kicking his perfect teeth in. More or less X-com on the harder difficulties only this is the DC comics mods.
I wonder if Paul is going to get mind screwed by some form of space drugs/magic/macguffin since we hadn't had a mind trip aside from Grayven having his mind and soul exposed to the Anti-Life equation. Maybe wake up and find he married one of the aforementioned space girls mid trip, especially everyone's reaction when he gets back to Earth, maybe a second wedding though who would be the groom?
Not only is he going to manage the resources needed to build the Orange Lantern Corp but the others as well since they don't exist yet, recruit possible members and train them, forge alliances, all while dealing with enemies capable of kicking his perfect teeth in. More or less X-com on the harder difficulties only this is the DC comics mods.
I wonder if Paul is going to get mind screwed by some form of space drugs/magic/macguffin since we hadn't had a mind trip aside from Grayven having his mind and soul exposed to the Anti-Life equation. Maybe wake up and find he married one of the aforementioned space girls mid trip, especially everyone's reaction when he gets back to Earth, maybe a second wedding though who would be the groom?
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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- Australia
Paul. Paul would be the groom.
- Location
- Just hanging
Sorry had a minor brain fart, due to a lack of sleep, I meant Best Man or whatever the position next to the groom is called. Though I wouldn't put it past Paul to somewhat mess things up due to a misunderstanding at his own wedding.
No offense to Mr. Zoat but when Paul's desires and mental reasonings eschews then social situations then to get confusing for everyone involved.
No offense to Mr. Zoat but when Paul's desires and mental reasonings eschews then social situations then to get confusing for everyone involved.
Vega, Baby (part 1)
- Location
- Hampden Park
Vega, Baby
10th July
16:26 GMT -5
One last look at Kon, Zatanna, Rob and M'gann, then the air around me buckles as I warp myself out of the atmosphere. In an instant I go from bright afternoon sunlight to the dark of near-Earth space. I re-checked the ring's instructions on long distance faster than light travel after leaving Alan. Help.. take my mind off things a little. Technically I could have initiated the long range warp from the ground, but there were more than a few warnings about that sort of thing. Unintended.. effects that can occur related to the sort of intense local spatial distortions that it requires. I'm not sure if they were completely relevant to an orange ring as opposed to a green one -I don't need to maintain the same completely clear image of what I'm doing in my mind that they would- but I accept that the Guardians know quite a bit about power rings by now. No sense in ignoring their guidance just to spite them.
I take a moment to look down on the Earth. It occurs to me that this makes an interesting.. book end. I'm not actually where I first appeared; though my point of entry appears to be stable relative to the Earth, it's in geosynchronous orbit somewhere over India. Still, it's a pretty similar view. And once again, I'm… Off into the unknown.
I am slightly better equipped to handle it this time, of course.
Though the challenge rating is somewhat higher.
Is it worth stopping off to talk to the Green Man? He's assigned to Sector 2626. I haven't received any situation updates since I assimilated John's ring at New Year, and its records from before that weren't exactly detailed. No sense giving a Lantern information they weren't expected to use, and it allows the Guardians to monitor exactly which Lanterns have access to what. I imagine that their Honour Guard get a bit more at-will access…
I don't know. At one level, I'm fully aware that I'm heading into a den of vile criminals. Getting information on exactly what's happening when I don't intend to interact with them in complex ways seems like a bit of a waste of time. One syndicate on the ascendance rather than another won't make any difference to my plans. And I don't really want to get… Bogged down. This is a reconnaissance/low-hanging-fruit-picking exercise, not an intervention-in-depth.
Keep myself ignorant to stop myself caring.
I should probably feel worse about thinking that.
Okay. Vega isn't actually 25 light years away. It's more like 60, but looks less due to the same thing that makes the stars stay close together. The lensing is another reason a lot of people assume it's a gravity-related phenomena, light from multiple stars seeming to combine into one. It is a bit odd… Oh, I'll just see if I can get one of the Controllers interested in it.
For a moment I consider warping to somewhere a little closer and taking a day off before proceeding onwards. There won't really be any safe harbours in Vega itself. No. I really want to.. do something right now.
Ring, plot warp to… To the border of the Vega systems.
Compl-.
The outside of the border. Near Rashashoon.
Compliance. / Warning. Vega system off limits to Lanterns. Do not attempt transit. Failure to comply is a court-martial offence.
I raise my right hand a little, looking at John's former ring in surprise. It's been so long since it's said anything that it had rather slipped my mind that it sometimes did.
Stewart-ring, correct me if I'm wrong, but that regulation applies to Green Lanterns, yes?
Statement applies to all Guardian operatives.
Am I a Guardian operative?
You have a Guardian-forged power ring.
That isn't what I asked.
E-error.
And what are your instructions regarding people who aren't Guardian operatives heading to Vega?
Any traffic not suspected to be criminal is to pass unobstructed.
Glad to hear it. So there's no actual problem with me going there, is there?
E-error.
I guess that's all I'm getting. Left ring, you have the course?
Affirmative.
Estimate transit time?
Two minutes subjective, approximately thirty minutes Earth time.
Alright then. Let's warp on out of here.
Initiating interstellar spatial warp. Stand by.
The stars around me shimmer and twist, the Earth itself shrinking to a dot. Then my surroundings shift, patterns of light coming and going inside the stream. I'm going a lot faster here than I did when Kon and I travelled to the sun, but since I'm not heading directly towards a star the amount of light hitting me is a lot less. The stars… It's a bit like in Star Trek, where they turn into smears, but… The orange glow is rather obscuring it. I suppose I could just… Have the ring stimulate my visual cortex with a more accurate version, but… Not the same.
Maybe this was why Abin Sur flew around in a starship, rather than just recharging a whole lot? So he could see what was going on around him properly. Really appreciate it? Or maybe that was why the Indigo Lanterns in the comics had interstellar teleportation rather than having to fly from place to place. Give them time to appreciate things. Or… Make it so their interstellar travel either flat out works or doesn't.
Oh, damn it! I was going to stop just outside the Sol system to mark… Going outside it after completing my time in service! Slipped my mind. Ugh. Ring, make a note to remind me to stop there on my way back.
Compliance.
I mentally sigh to myself. Prince Markov was right; flying around might be amazing, but it can get really quite dull after a-.
Warp terminated.
10th July
16:57 GMT -5
The stars snap back into clarity and the constant orange glow fades back down to normal environmental shield levels. So. This is Vega.
As requested, this location is just outside the Vega moat.
Heh. And, looking, I can't tell it's even here. Because the thing about space is…
I turn in space, information on the relative location of the closest stars appears on my visual field, along with the distance both to me and to the worlds of the Vega systems… Yep, that's the Moat. Some things you can't see when you're right on top of them. Stewart-ring, everything match your records?
Stellar drift as expected.
I turn back towards Vega, data on my destination appearing before my eyes. None of Larfleeze's Construct-Lanterns around, I note. Long range scans show any number of small and medium sized ships, showing flags of various Gordanian clans and semi-legitimate traders. There's a Citadel Empire picket force, the ships looking noticeably better maintained than those belonging to the outsiders. Three distinct groupings: one close to the planet and two further out. Rashashoon is taxed, but what happens here is so much a part of the Citadel economy that its people aren't particularly oppressed by them. Unless they have the misfortune to be slaves, the trade of which is one of the many things that happen here.
Slavery isn't really a bulk thing here, though. Or rather, it is, but the bulk isn't traded. After the Karnans conclusively lost their long running war with the Gordanians for control of their shared homeworld, their entire population was technically enslaved. Mostly it just manifests as a 'not kicking your head in' tax. Bad, but liveable. As long as you keep your head down and don't have much in the way of ambition.
There are a few Branx ships as well. Hard, blocky, inelegant things. Those ones are armed merchants. While it isn't illegal to pirate inside Vega, it's generally a good way to get yourself killed. The Citadel doesn't like things that disrupt its income, and other groups -especially the Branx- will make a point of avenging a fallen comrade.
No Tamaranian ships, of course. They haven't had any since they went from client world to… Not sure what you'd call them now. 'Resource extraction source', perhaps. Or 'dehumanisation practice centre'. That's my next stop, but I want to take a look around, first.
Ring, check for interdiction fields.
Located. In addition to those based on the planet itself, the two Citadel fleets furthest from the planet possess additional devices.
Anything that would stop me?
Negative.
Alright then. Ring, warp to low orbit.
Compliance.
10th July
16:26 GMT -5
One last look at Kon, Zatanna, Rob and M'gann, then the air around me buckles as I warp myself out of the atmosphere. In an instant I go from bright afternoon sunlight to the dark of near-Earth space. I re-checked the ring's instructions on long distance faster than light travel after leaving Alan. Help.. take my mind off things a little. Technically I could have initiated the long range warp from the ground, but there were more than a few warnings about that sort of thing. Unintended.. effects that can occur related to the sort of intense local spatial distortions that it requires. I'm not sure if they were completely relevant to an orange ring as opposed to a green one -I don't need to maintain the same completely clear image of what I'm doing in my mind that they would- but I accept that the Guardians know quite a bit about power rings by now. No sense in ignoring their guidance just to spite them.
I take a moment to look down on the Earth. It occurs to me that this makes an interesting.. book end. I'm not actually where I first appeared; though my point of entry appears to be stable relative to the Earth, it's in geosynchronous orbit somewhere over India. Still, it's a pretty similar view. And once again, I'm… Off into the unknown.
I am slightly better equipped to handle it this time, of course.
Though the challenge rating is somewhat higher.
Is it worth stopping off to talk to the Green Man? He's assigned to Sector 2626. I haven't received any situation updates since I assimilated John's ring at New Year, and its records from before that weren't exactly detailed. No sense giving a Lantern information they weren't expected to use, and it allows the Guardians to monitor exactly which Lanterns have access to what. I imagine that their Honour Guard get a bit more at-will access…
I don't know. At one level, I'm fully aware that I'm heading into a den of vile criminals. Getting information on exactly what's happening when I don't intend to interact with them in complex ways seems like a bit of a waste of time. One syndicate on the ascendance rather than another won't make any difference to my plans. And I don't really want to get… Bogged down. This is a reconnaissance/low-hanging-fruit-picking exercise, not an intervention-in-depth.
Keep myself ignorant to stop myself caring.
I should probably feel worse about thinking that.
Okay. Vega isn't actually 25 light years away. It's more like 60, but looks less due to the same thing that makes the stars stay close together. The lensing is another reason a lot of people assume it's a gravity-related phenomena, light from multiple stars seeming to combine into one. It is a bit odd… Oh, I'll just see if I can get one of the Controllers interested in it.
For a moment I consider warping to somewhere a little closer and taking a day off before proceeding onwards. There won't really be any safe harbours in Vega itself. No. I really want to.. do something right now.
Ring, plot warp to… To the border of the Vega systems.
Compl-.
The outside of the border. Near Rashashoon.
Compliance. / Warning. Vega system off limits to Lanterns. Do not attempt transit. Failure to comply is a court-martial offence.
I raise my right hand a little, looking at John's former ring in surprise. It's been so long since it's said anything that it had rather slipped my mind that it sometimes did.
Stewart-ring, correct me if I'm wrong, but that regulation applies to Green Lanterns, yes?
Statement applies to all Guardian operatives.
Am I a Guardian operative?
You have a Guardian-forged power ring.
That isn't what I asked.
E-error.
And what are your instructions regarding people who aren't Guardian operatives heading to Vega?
Any traffic not suspected to be criminal is to pass unobstructed.
Glad to hear it. So there's no actual problem with me going there, is there?
E-error.
I guess that's all I'm getting. Left ring, you have the course?
Affirmative.
Estimate transit time?
Two minutes subjective, approximately thirty minutes Earth time.
Alright then. Let's warp on out of here.
Initiating interstellar spatial warp. Stand by.
The stars around me shimmer and twist, the Earth itself shrinking to a dot. Then my surroundings shift, patterns of light coming and going inside the stream. I'm going a lot faster here than I did when Kon and I travelled to the sun, but since I'm not heading directly towards a star the amount of light hitting me is a lot less. The stars… It's a bit like in Star Trek, where they turn into smears, but… The orange glow is rather obscuring it. I suppose I could just… Have the ring stimulate my visual cortex with a more accurate version, but… Not the same.
Maybe this was why Abin Sur flew around in a starship, rather than just recharging a whole lot? So he could see what was going on around him properly. Really appreciate it? Or maybe that was why the Indigo Lanterns in the comics had interstellar teleportation rather than having to fly from place to place. Give them time to appreciate things. Or… Make it so their interstellar travel either flat out works or doesn't.
Oh, damn it! I was going to stop just outside the Sol system to mark… Going outside it after completing my time in service! Slipped my mind. Ugh. Ring, make a note to remind me to stop there on my way back.
Compliance.
I mentally sigh to myself. Prince Markov was right; flying around might be amazing, but it can get really quite dull after a-.
Warp terminated.
10th July
16:57 GMT -5
The stars snap back into clarity and the constant orange glow fades back down to normal environmental shield levels. So. This is Vega.
As requested, this location is just outside the Vega moat.
Heh. And, looking, I can't tell it's even here. Because the thing about space is…
I turn in space, information on the relative location of the closest stars appears on my visual field, along with the distance both to me and to the worlds of the Vega systems… Yep, that's the Moat. Some things you can't see when you're right on top of them. Stewart-ring, everything match your records?
Stellar drift as expected.
I turn back towards Vega, data on my destination appearing before my eyes. None of Larfleeze's Construct-Lanterns around, I note. Long range scans show any number of small and medium sized ships, showing flags of various Gordanian clans and semi-legitimate traders. There's a Citadel Empire picket force, the ships looking noticeably better maintained than those belonging to the outsiders. Three distinct groupings: one close to the planet and two further out. Rashashoon is taxed, but what happens here is so much a part of the Citadel economy that its people aren't particularly oppressed by them. Unless they have the misfortune to be slaves, the trade of which is one of the many things that happen here.
Slavery isn't really a bulk thing here, though. Or rather, it is, but the bulk isn't traded. After the Karnans conclusively lost their long running war with the Gordanians for control of their shared homeworld, their entire population was technically enslaved. Mostly it just manifests as a 'not kicking your head in' tax. Bad, but liveable. As long as you keep your head down and don't have much in the way of ambition.
There are a few Branx ships as well. Hard, blocky, inelegant things. Those ones are armed merchants. While it isn't illegal to pirate inside Vega, it's generally a good way to get yourself killed. The Citadel doesn't like things that disrupt its income, and other groups -especially the Branx- will make a point of avenging a fallen comrade.
No Tamaranian ships, of course. They haven't had any since they went from client world to… Not sure what you'd call them now. 'Resource extraction source', perhaps. Or 'dehumanisation practice centre'. That's my next stop, but I want to take a look around, first.
Ring, check for interdiction fields.
Located. In addition to those based on the planet itself, the two Citadel fleets furthest from the planet possess additional devices.
Anything that would stop me?
Negative.
Alright then. Ring, warp to low orbit.
Compliance.
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- Location
- Minnesota
It's finally happening! We've been building up to this since forever, and now, it's finally happening!
ORANGE LANTERN
IIIIN SPAAAACEEE
ORANGE LANTERN
IIIIN SPAAAACEEE
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- Hampden Park
Yes, along with the Sword of the Fallen.
Has he even learned how to swing a sword?
I mean, I get that he mushed up the Devil with it, but does he know how to fight with it?
Typos:
"image"
"my"
"so"
What's this a reference to? Google is only turning up an old video game.
- Location
- Chile
Is he just carrying them, like on hand or hanging of him?
dhasenan
always lowercase
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Sixty lightyears? Earth's practically next door to Vega. Should that worry Earth? I think it should worry Earth. Is anyone else worried?
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