With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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I love the idea of Zatanna being one of those new-fangled Street Magicians whose entire act is basically just "look at how much pain I can suffer", and Giovanni being eternally disappointed and embarrassed.Equally important question. Who would even consider taking Zatanna in a "gothic anti-hero direction" a good idea!?
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RichardWhereat
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I'm sure the other podantic bastards will find the rest, but there's mine.
Also, haa, now she's worried because she hasn't done the paperwork.
shepsquared
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Because they've never seen a magicnshow by someone who genuinely enjoys performing?Equally important question. Who would even consider taking Zatanna in a "gothic anti-hero direction" a good idea!?
I'm still struggling with putting Power Girl and Supergirl in armour - an invincible teenage girl isn't going to go fornpointless armour.
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Wait until her father hears about this! He knew interacting with that man would bring horrible consequences, and look what happend!
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No one is invincible. Especially no one in Universe 16-Z. Super tough beyond crazy tough to stupid level? Yeah.
There's never enough protection.
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Hestia&theCourt
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The color, at least, I understand. No matter how invulnerable you are, it's dumb to make yourself more visible than you have to be. No comment on the symbolism.
RichardWhereat
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Also, damn, that artist is terrible at this. Colour damnit, it ain't about being some 90's gritty anti-hero. Colour's about inspiring hope.
Also, no armour they can manufacture on earth, without a lantern, is going to be better than normal kryptonian durability.
Also, no armour they can manufacture on earth, without a lantern, is going to be better than normal kryptonian durability.
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As expected, nebezial (Stjepan Sejic, look up his work Death Vigil, it's really good!) did an excellent fanart redesign of Supergirl that is now my mental image of her.
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Probably because bright colours make stains and your presence more noticeable.
Presumably because flimsy clothes would get torn off in super fight.
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First Paul introduces her to Constantine, then he entrusts her with a dangerous artifact, and now she has a coat like his too? Giovanni will earn a Red Lantern Ring at this rate.
RichardWhereat
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Making their presence more notable, for most of these superheroes, is the point. It grabs attention away from the civilians.
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Because apparently she's missing the fact that, both in and out of universe, they're supposed to be Symbols.
Let's not forget that Giovanni's reaction was also to be more worried about Nabu than being overjoyed, and that even after having a significant amount of time to consider things, he was at best ambivalent about what Paul did.
It's also worth noting that, in fact, in retrospect, it turns out that a lot of the tensions with Nabu were the result of Zatara being Good Soldier on a Mission, and apparently not even expressing any interest to Nabu in being allowed to communicate with his daughter.
I mean, if you're going to judge whether the Justice League did the Right Thing, and whether or not they were correct in thinking that Zatara wouldn't want them to kill Nabu in order to free him, the fact that it turns out Zatara actually didn't want them to kill Nabu in order to free him seems like a rather big deal to ignore.
These points about costumes were addressed in this fic. The Kryptonian forcefield type durability means you can wear anything as long as it's tight.
shepsquared
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She chose her costume at 15/16. And that isn't a young justice design (because young justice doesn't irationally hate superhero costumes)
Being highly visible is the point. It makes them immediate beacons of hope when they arrive, makes supervillains pay attention to them instead of civilians and is generally way better for branding and uplifting, hopeful stories.
Supergirl wears the same nigh indestructible kryptonian fabric as superman and we all agreed not to ask questions about the durability of superhero clothing the first time we read a Hulk comic.
In universe Grayven made their colour schemes dull and they changed it when he left. OL got them better protection, particularly for Artemis, Robin and Zatanna, but expecting a visual medium to abandon iconic designs in the name of mindless realism is idiotic.
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Thank you, corrected.
Zatanna's standard costume doesn't have those either. It's black and white and doesn't have any sort of logo. The closest she got to a superhero costume was this one.
Hestia&theCourt
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Right up until their own blood stains the pretty but impractical costumes because they tried to stealth in it.
Technopathy is a fairly non-obvious power because machines don't have minds. Even computers don't.
So what is there that makes "taking to machines" any different than talking to a spoon or a pair of shoes or any other non-living object?
EDIT: I mean, whatever, a superpower can handle any weirdness. But it's not an obvious power.
So what is there that makes "taking to machines" any different than talking to a spoon or a pair of shoes or any other non-living object?
EDIT: I mean, whatever, a superpower can handle any weirdness. But it's not an obvious power.
One thing that bothered me about that "practical costume" thing was the hair issue. At least for someone like Wonder Woman long hair has an advantage that doesn't apply in real life; it's actually fairly good head and upper back armor.
For someone super tough wearing less clothes is likely to make sense just from an economic standpoint; anything you wear will come out in rags anyway. A full body covering is just more you need to replace after a fight. And lots of bare skin increases the likelihood that an attack will miss the clothes and do no damage; kind of the opposite situation for most people.
I recall a superhero webfic I ran across years ago that had a super who wore the classic fantasy-illustration steel bikini, not to look sexy but because it was the only outfit she could afford that would last more than a few seconds into a fight. IIRC Alexandria from Worm wears chainmail underwear like that for much the same reason.
So will tough clothes.
For someone super tough wearing less clothes is likely to make sense just from an economic standpoint; anything you wear will come out in rags anyway. A full body covering is just more you need to replace after a fight. And lots of bare skin increases the likelihood that an attack will miss the clothes and do no damage; kind of the opposite situation for most people.
I recall a superhero webfic I ran across years ago that had a super who wore the classic fantasy-illustration steel bikini, not to look sexy but because it was the only outfit she could afford that would last more than a few seconds into a fight. IIRC Alexandria from Worm wears chainmail underwear like that for much the same reason.
RichardWhereat
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I believe it was said best that Hulks Urethra is strongest one there is!
RichardWhereat
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The flying bricks get into knock down drag out fights all the time, and almost never end up bloodied by them. The only time I can remember it coming something close to it is when Superman died from one, and even then there wasn't much blood.
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