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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Mr Zoat said:
No obvious route to paid employment in that field on the surface world.
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Do you mean obvious to her? Because there's quite the selection of jobs she could do that could make her quite wealthy using magic.

It's like that conversation OL had with the Terror Twins. There's quite a lot of money to be made from having an extremely unique and useful skill set.

Though I guess if she played her cards right she could still make a killing from stage magic considering it's not actually stage magic.
 
Mr Zoat said:
No obvious route to paid employment in that field on the surface world.
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working a bit of actual magic into the act could be a way to spice up a show. Maybe make a game of it, say one of her tricks of the night is going to be actual magic and get people trying to guess which one. I am of course assuming most of her stage magicians act is tricks and not actual magic.


or have shows that are all magic and marketed as such. Possibly make them slightly educational so she explains a few interesting magical facts. Or how something that looks easy/hard is actually the opposite.
 
Emerald Oracle said:
For what it's worthy I'm still interested in those random bits and bobs we saw of the Marvel Universe variants. EMH was always a favorite of mine, and the idea of MCU Paul and SWORD entertains me rather thoroughly, for all that we've seen about... nothing of that besides that Paul and Skye/Daisy on Damocles Base commenting on Earth's propensity for parochialism.
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I'll second this. EMH is basically Young Justice for Marvel and it needs a lot more fic love than it gets.
 
GoodAntagonist said:
Well i hope that's more familial or sibling love (like between Kon and Paul) instead of romantical love.
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I hate to break it to ya..... but I'm pretty sure there's more to that then sibling love...

Hence when he was in that dream state that gave him everything he desired he was in a polyamours relationship with kon , megan and jade.

I'm pretttty sure about this, tho I could be wrong. People are free to give input because that's how I've been taking it
 
The setup is so clear for Zatanna going violet crazy (the perfect storm of unrequited love for Paul and contact with a Star Sapphire) that I'm guessing Zoat is just going to subvert that and have Paul successfully deal with it before it becomes a real problem.
 
ThrawnCA said:
: Olympians.
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Thank you, corrected.
Why didn't the ring warn him about that?
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It did. She wrote it out after the fact.
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post-mortem, or
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What manner of creature-?!
can get its
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that blocks her with its
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I don't think that's right.
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actually 'Lawrence Crock Junior'?!
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from side to side
their seats
celebrates my action?
compara-
I'm assuming the incomplete word was something like "comparable"
Klarion existed
supervillain
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Thank you, corrected.
 
shotiegun11 said:
So the Hel and Paul OTP is a thing in your Marvel SI? The endgame relationship? Has it already started by the time the SI meet with Magneto?

I'm very invested with this Paul that has had like 4 segments in total. (2/3 being omake thingies from long ago in the spacebattles era.)
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Mr Zoat said:
I really haven't thought it through in that much detail. Let's say... No. They only become friends between series one and two, and that was set during series one.
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What is this Marvel SI are you referring to? Kinda out of the loop here, help?
 
Mr Zoat said:
"And I want to be a stage magician and a superhero anyway, and high school doesn't teach that. So were you here for something special?"
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To be fair, the only other thing that she could get out of the place is some maladaptive conditioning, some social skills/contacts and...i can't find a third thing.
Avernus said:
Of course, "teenage girl with a hopeless crush" and "teenage girl with moderate Violet Light influence" probably have a lot of overlap in their behavior...
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I believe that it may fit into the greek idea of the four (three?) loves, to narrow it down, the one about loving everything.
GoodAntagonist said:
If she still has her crush, then i foresee drama. Best case: A bit of crying and shouting until she accepts the situation.
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The MC has a soul made out of Orange Light, Orange Enlightenment, empathic soul vision, and a desire to reach accords with people; at his most harsh i can see him explaining in explaining in excruciating detail exactly how that would be something he would want to avoid in the current situation, exactly how hard it would be to change that situation, and what other, better, things they could be doing together instead with that same effort.

Some things i read sort of mixed together oddly and left me wondering if he could end up stabbing a portal or a representation of the universe or something with the good killing sword he has and end up murdering the universe.
 
Yog said:
So, why a stage magician? In a world awakening to the knowledge of Arcane, she could and should aspire for more. Popularize magic, bring the knowledge of arcane lore to the masses!
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I think she intends to be somewhat like Shining Chariot from Little Witch Academia: her magic isn't just the usual trickery and stagecraft people expect, it's glorious and in their face. Basically, popularizing magic and making it appealing in a different way.
 
Some more things that might have been forgotten or fallen by the wayside or are waiting to be relevant or were missed by me:
1) The effects Danner formula had on Adom. I don't think it was ever mentioned if the enhanced Danner strength synergized with enhanced Shazam strength. And, speaking of, did Paul offer Danner enhancement to Billy and his friends. Their child mortal bodies are a tremendous point of weakness, Danner perfect regeneration would solve the whole back injury (yes, I know Paul healed it anyway, but it's the principle of the matter, in case there's any new permanent injuries happening), and, being associates of Beautia Sivana, Marvels are well placed to deal with consequences of dannering up.

2) In one of the early meetings with Ms Sackville, Paul handed her a sample of Danner formula for alchemical analysis. She, in turn, promised to look into it, and get in contact with Epiphany Greaves (future Constantine). Specifically, the question posed was "nothing is ever without a price. What is the long term price of the boosts Danner formula grants? People sold their souls for something not even half as good as it". As far as I know, nothing ever came out of it.


Mr Zoat said:
No obvious route to paid employment in that field on the surface world.
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"Bill Nye the Science Guy Zatanna Zatarra, the Arcane Enchantress". Educational TV and mass media shows on the arcane subject.

EDIT: Also, money? What? She, basically, has a power ring. Even leaving aside how Paul absolutely could, and should, establish massive trust funds for all his friends, so they could enjoy being at the very least millionaires in their off-hours, she should not be worrying about money, at all. She can transmute lead to butter and butter to lead. Gold is not special, and if it is, mystically speaking, there's still osmium, or rare earths, or, hell, plain silicon. Pure (and I mean 100% ideally pure) silicon is very expensive and can be easily sold.
 
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I'm reminded of the elves from Mercedes Lackey's stories, who find stage magic fascinating. Real magic is about as exciting to them as a light switch is to a modern American; it's normal. They see it every day. But stage magic is cool.

Zatanna could have the same tendencies; real magic isn't exotic for her after all.

Mr Zoat said:
Where?
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Whoops;

Looking good so far though; I distinctly remember Zatanna telling me that the protective spells extend into the garden, and if they haven't activated them I'm not on the banned list.
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"then"
 
GoodAntagonist said:
Well i hope that's more familial or sibling love (like between Kon and Paul) instead of romantical love.
Enough time for Zatanna to change the type of affection has passed.

If she still has her crush, then i foresee drama. Best case: A bit of crying and shouting until she accepts the situation.
Worst case: she dives too deep into the Star Saphire and becomes a second Carol Ferris (or however the precious human holder of the saphire was named)
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How else did you think the Zamarons were going to get involved in this story?
 
Yog said:
2) In one of the early meetings with Ms Sackville, Paul handed her a sample of Danner formula for alchemical analysis. She, in turn, promised to look into it, and get in contact with Epiphany Greaves (future Constantine). Specifically, the question posed was "nothing is ever without a price. What is the long term price of the boosts Danner formula grants? People sold their souls for something not even half as good as it". As far as I know, nothing ever came out of it.
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Something came of it. Lex's research team in India now have a much better idea of how it works. But with the SI now disassociating himself from Lex, he's become somewhat out of the loop.
"Bill Nye the Science Guy Zatanna Zatarra, the Arcane Enchantress". Educational TV and mass media shows on the arcane subject.
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Not a bad idea, but at the moment the networks would be a bit nervous about irritating the conservative Christians and web TV hasn't really come into its own yet.
EDIT: Also, money? What? She, basically, has a power ring. Even leaving aside how Paul absolutely could, and should, establish massive trust funds for all his friends, so they could enjoy being at the very least millionaires in their off-hours, she should not be worrying about money, at all. She can transmute lead to butter and butter to lead. Gold is not special, and if it is, mystically speaking, there's still osmium, or rare earths, or, hell, plain silicon. Pure (and I mean 100% ideally pure) silicon is very expensive and can be easily sold.
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His team mates are already millionaires, having received the bounty for killing the Kriegers.
Avernus said:
I'm reminded of the elves from Mercedes Lackey's stories, who find stage magic fascinating. Real magic is about as exciting to them as a light switch is to a modern American; it's normal. They see it every day. But stage magic is cool.
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There was a similar thing in Book of Magick.
Whoops; "then"
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Thank you, corrected.
 
Yog said:
1) The effects Danner formula had on Adom. I don't think it was ever mentioned if the enhanced Danner strength synergized with enhanced Shazam strength.
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Not in-story, but Mr Zoat said out-of-story that it was hard to measure since he's already so strong. Especially since OL didn't precisely measure Adom's strength beforehand.

In other words he's already living in a world of cardboard, and it's hard for him to tell if the cardboard got slightly flimsier.
 
Mr Zoat said:
I really haven't thought it through in that much detail. Let's say... No. They only become friends between series one and two, and that was set during series one.

No.

In the cinematic universe I think the cosmic cube is an infinity stone.
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Yes, but since even empty cosmic cubes can be prove useful, is something to look into.

Fun fact; in the comics an empty cosmic cube was used to basicly do a power ring with a ten meter range around the user body. I guess the movie version, just by having the stone inside it for so long, could serve as a power battery even without the stone.

Also Thanos is coming.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Something came of it. Lex's research team in India now have a much better idea of how it works. But with the SI now disassociating himself from Lex, he's become somewhat out of the loop.
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And Ms. Sackville didn't get back to Paul about this?
Mr Zoat said:
Not a bad idea, but at the moment the networks would be a bit nervous about irritating the conservative Christians and web TV hasn't really come into its own yet.
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She could, easily, have official backing of RCC, if not the personal blessing of the Pope. Her priest is one of the elite special church task force priests or some such, she is a daughter of JL member, and a likely candidate to become one herself. Hell, just host the show in Italy / Rome. Church should be very interested in more correct information on magic being known, so their flock don't damn themselves as much out of ignorance or stupidity.
His team mates are already millionaires, having received the bounty for killing the Kriegers.
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Point is, Zatanna should be worrying about monetization of her skills about as much as Paul does - that should be an issue solved in, at most, a weekend of effort.
 
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