With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

Mr Zoat · Feb 2, 2018

ThrawnCA said:
Missing full stop.

Thank you, corrected.

RichardWhereat said:
There, and there isn't. Not really. They blended timelines, screwed cause and effect simply to save fans from losing Batman, they censored Constantine, and they ended Clark and Lois's marriage. Anything that could have been good, should have just been written in the original story, and that would have been good.

Actually, they killed the new Superman and showed that old Superman and Lois were still together on the same planet.

Simmr001 said:
Red Daughter of Krypton is one of them and most of it is good because of what happened to supergirl in new 52.

I just looked at the costume and rolled my eyes.

ThrawnCA said:
If that's a joke, it's over my head. AFAIK "colossal" is a perfectly reasonable adjective to use here.

Helios is a titan.

Pizza said:
How does the solar flare go through his helmet?

Magic.

Coda said:
At least "sept" (capitalization), but unless the guild considers the groups to be family-aligned it feels off. Possibly "sect" but even that doesn't quite feel like the right choice of word because "sect" implies religious identity. Less colorfully, "faction" is at least milquetoastly correct.

Thank you, corrected.

Coda said:
So it is. Still shouldn't be capitalized. Also seems like an odd choice, as it seems to carry a meaning closer to "clan" than "faction".

Yes, that is correct.

Empiricist2 · Feb 2, 2018

Crimson Doom said:
The canon omake gives her six-way multitasking, in addition to greatly enhanced telekinesis and telepathy. This is huge.

Unless I'm mistaken, her telekinesis and telepathy weren't directly increased. She is able to micromanage those abilities much more, so it looks like from the outside that she is stronger, but for example I don't believe her total lifting capacity with telekinesis has changed.

You're not wrong in saying that the abilities are enhanced, but it's not separate from the multitasking.

Hestia&theCourt · Feb 2, 2018

Empiricist2 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, her telekinesis and telepathy weren't directly increased. She is able to micromanage those abilities much more, so it looks like from the outside that she is stronger, but for example I don't believe her total lifting capacity with telekinesis has changed.

You're not wrong in saying that the abilities are enhanced, but it's not separate from the multitasking.

Fair enough. Either way, multitasking alongside a way to act on the world remotely is one of the best power combinations there is, so I feel confident in saying that M'gann is still the most powered-up of the team.

Coda · Feb 2, 2018

Empiricist2 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, her telekinesis and telepathy weren't directly increased. She is able to micromanage those abilities much more, so it looks like from the outside that she is stronger, but for example I don't believe her total lifting capacity with telekinesis has changed.

Okay, so I mixed things up a bit. The Star Conqueror form isn't where she got the psi amps. She got those from Paul directly:

Mr Zoat said:
I look up from the rock floor as M'gann smiles down at me. She's wearing her uniform and a set of telekinetic amplifiers I created for her based on the designs I found on Lantern Stewart's ring. Since they can't shapeshift with her she's been a little slow to take advantage of them, and like any device that someone's not used to they need a lot of practice time before the user can get the most out of them. The amplifiers take the form of a thin cream band wrapped around the palm and the back of the hand, with tiny glowing purple spots dotted along the outer edge.

Maxx Crowley · Feb 2, 2018

Mr Zoat said:
One of the things I want to do while we're here is see if there are other kryptonite isomers around here.

Mr Zoat said:
We don't know how many different types there are and we don't know what they do.

Mr Zoat said:
"I don't know. I think he can go for longer than he's been recorded doing. Though… I coulda gone on for longer. I don't think I've even got a limit."

Teasing. English. Bastard.

Mr.rodent said:
Why!!! My little gay shipping heart can only take so much

I know right?! Too much stiff upper lip and not enough fun stiffness.

Mr Zoat · Feb 2, 2018

ThrawnCA said:
Good news:

Is it? Is it?

Bad news:
Okay, choice:
motor control appears
LexCorp security systems
team mates' locations
There is a series
Lamprey's
from his
to cover her
Miss Teschmacher more or less
eludes you?!
for what you've done?!
fidgets
significant amounts of overtime
they're probably a villain
was."
not supposed to
mind's eye
Kahndaqi
Bruising... suggests
first things first
It's not immediately obvious that the "him" refers to Satanus; the context would make Shazam the more likely assumption.
impeding his healing?
OL watched Adom teaching Marvel to better use his healing, at New Year's.
Warning:
(occurs multiple times)
shows that the two
Warning:

Thank you, corrected.

LazySloth13 · Feb 2, 2018

It depends on what is considered 'powerful' since some of the members have specialized strengths and weaknesses.

Kon followed by Canis or Donna and the Dannered enhanciled would be the strongest physically. Kon and Canis have the best armor available, plus whatever other forms of protection Paul can offer, but don't have a wider range of skills that can immediately have an effect.

M'gann is the only telepathic and telekinetic shapeshifter who can, if given enough motivation, overcome experienced telepathic foes. Her few weaknesses being her lack of armor, her empathetic nature, and her overall inexperience dealing with trauma since in canon constantly dealing with villains is what caused her to go full mind rape.

The fastest member would obviously be Kid Flash followed by Cornwallboy. The differences in weaknesses being that Kid is a bit of a more glass cannon compared to Cornwall who can make himself more durable with his magic, but Kid has more experienced and doesn't have a limit to how long he keep running since Cornwall's magical reserves can run dry.

As far as magic goes Zatanna is the strongest followed by Kaldur then Garth and Tula. Zatanna's weaknesses are similar to Paul's once you strip her of her magic compared to the Atlanteans who are physically tougher and stronger with military training. Kaldur obviously has more experience then the other two but slightly less schooling since a lot of his fighting experience is combat oriented. As for Cornwall Boy it's a bit harder to measure him since he could beat several of his teammates with magical strength but he's somewhat less experienced and is training to better hone his magic.

Technology wise Robin is the best hacker followed by Squire, Rocket has learned about technology from Icon, and Artemis and Arsenal are stocked with a variety of arrows but that about it.

A major weakness that most of them have is trying to expand their skills or abilities unless given enough reason or motivation since it usually Paul trying 5o convince them to learn more or let him enhance them with either the Danner Formula or possibly the Garrick Formula. They can do stealth but are quick to jump into combat, which is similar to their investigation skills save for Robin or Squire, and generally have the 'superhero' mindset and morally.

Maxx Crowley · Feb 2, 2018

Avernus said:
that's an awful lot of power for Helios to just give to somebody

It's been said a bit, but yeah, I think Helios is showing off a bit. Not just to the world at large, but to the other members of the pantheon. I mean let's face it..."thunderbolts" vs The Sun?

RichardWhereat said:
So, like all slash fan fiction.

There is so much truth in this statement. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've said something, then only to have some random girl lecture me on apparently not understanding how my own body, and prefered sex, work.

Coda · Feb 2, 2018

LazySloth13 said:
It depends on what is considered 'powerful' since some of the members have specialized strengths and weaknesses.

I believe the discussion isn't so much about who's the most powerful member of the team as it is who's gotten the biggest buffs relative to their YJ-canon baseline.

Mr Zoat · Feb 2, 2018

ThrawnCA said:
Warning:
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Mister Yao, has anyone
She manages to
Kid Flash, Cornwall, Wolf:
bodies make it
you know:
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foster parents'
anyone unfortunate enough to
Extra space
I rest the flat
plannin'
Elsewhere uses "discs"
this instance, however, the
forty first millennium
of what they are now?
new technologies, even highly disruptive ones
skip on to
Green Man's
three and a bit months'
more than that
five storeys
stand in this alley all night
Now:
girlfriend's

Thank you, corrected.

TIL...

What?

I'm guessing
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Thank you, corrected.

stsword · Feb 2, 2018

Simmr001 said:
the stance of ignoring everything from it, even if it is potentially positive to the story, feels petty as hell.

this is from someone who was pissed by what it did to Cassandra Cain and billy batson: their is still good in the new 52

Except he hasn't. Hell, YJ being Earth 16 is post flashpoint.

So is Kon meaning abomination.

Zoat's version of the New Gods is closer to post flashpoint than anything else. Post flashpoint, New Gods are human aliens empowered by divine energy. Pre flashpoint, they evolved from the genetic soup left behind after ragnarok.

Blue lanterns having standardized abilities, post flashpoint.

Larfleeze being a living lantern, post flashpoint.

Massgamer · Feb 2, 2018

This is random but is it possible that OL could find Kara's ship trail, follow it, and pick her up early? Or is that highly unlikely given the time that has passed and the state of the local system plus other cosmic events?

SotF · Feb 2, 2018

You know, after the disaster with Phaethon, I kind of wonder if Helios might end up viewing Kon as a replacement...

Of course, Helios does have a grudge against Athena and Poseidon for the entire mess with Medusa who is his granddaughter.

Empiricist2 · Feb 2, 2018

Today's SMBC is another funny take on Superman and DC comics: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Real Supervillain

lefthandturnsign · Feb 2, 2018

Empiricist2 said:
Unless I'm mistaken, her telekinesis and telepathy weren't directly increased. She is able to micromanage those abilities much more, so it looks like from the outside that she is stronger, but for example I don't believe her total lifting capacity with telekinesis has changed.

You're not wrong in saying that the abilities are enhanced, but it's not separate from the multitasking.

Being able to fight six people at once with the same coordination and concentration that you used to fight one is a very strong ability, even if each is at 1/6 the power.

Coda · Feb 2, 2018

Mr Zoat said:
What?

He's saying "Today I Learned" that breeze blocks are a specific thing (known as "cinder blocks" in the US) instead of being apparently a grammatical error.

Monshroud · Feb 2, 2018

You know, aside from the time Killer Croc broke three fingers trying to punch enhanced Robin, I don't think we've really seen either Richard or Artemis go all out with the super-strength and durability.

I mean, what does Gotham's criminals say about the Boy Wonder to any noobies before they commit a crime?

"Okay, word of warning: if the Batman shows up, you're going down, so don't try to fight back or you'll just make it worse. If his kid, Robin, shows up, then you are DEFINITELY going down, cause that brat will F@#$ING. BREAK. YOU. I'm not kidding here. I saw him juggling Tweedledum and Tweedledee like they were NOTHING but big ol' bean bags, but filled with air instead."

Lord knows the EXTRAORDINARY acrobatics Richard could be capable of now, that even he couldn't do before!

Avernus · Feb 3, 2018

Monshroud said:
You know, aside from the time Killer Croc broke three fingers trying to punch enhanced Robin, I don't think we've really seen either Richard or Artemis go all out with the super-strength and durability.

It wasn't "on-screen" but it did come up that Artemis crushed the villain Harm in their fight. Both figuratively and literally.

"Harm believes that It misunderstands. Harm is-."

"William Hayes. The chap who stole the Sword of Beowulf and got beaten by Artemis in under a minute. How are the ribs? And the shoulder?" The rune stone glows. "I seem to remember that they were horribly crushed."

stsword · Feb 3, 2018

Mr Zoat said:
Actually, they killed the new Superman and showed that old Superman and Lois were still together on the same planet.

And then Myxy merged the dead prime native Lois and Clark with the living Lois and Clark from New Earth.

So essentially all of NE Superman's history was shoehorned into Prime continuity, making prime continuity even more of a nonsensical contradictory mess.

RichardWhereat · Feb 3, 2018

Aye, pretty much.

Avernus · Feb 3, 2018

Thinking about it, Kon just used a plasma blast powerful enoguh to disturb a gas giant, with no recoil. That supports the idea that it's gating in plasma from the Sun rather than Kon generating it from himself. I also find myself trying to think of ways to get thrust from it anyway; like Kon firing his eye-beams into a construct rocket engine.

RichardWhereat · Feb 3, 2018

Well, he has his armour for flight and thrust. Maybe if he unleashes it on something solid?

ThrawnCA · Feb 3, 2018

Almost reached the start of thread twelve

Mr Zoat said:
Demons spots her

Demon spots her

out of her room at night!

out of her room at night?!

give it that

give it to that

Mr Zoat said:
reign it in

rein it in

look forwards to

look forward to

So;

So:

A group of five magic-using supervillains

Later in the chapter, the president expresses surprise that the executed four were not all.

Mr Zoat said:
sessions starts

session starts

Mr Zoat said:
trudges slovenly

Pretty sure that's an adjective not an adverb

Mr Zoat said:
along side

alongside

Just to check;

Just to check:

Lantern who

Lanterns who

Mr Zoat said:
Lanterns faces

Lanterns' faces

Mr Zoat said:
and hold it up

and holds it up

Mr Zoat said:
was closest capable person

was the closest capable person

always told me;

always told me:

Mr Zoat said:
the right side to

the right side of

Mr Zoat said:
; walk through

: walk through

gets to the right hand Gate

But he was initially said to be heading for the left one?

; 'why aren't

: 'why aren't

answer is;

answer is:

moved onto hydrogen

moved on to hydrogen

Mr Zoat said:
Ra's resurrected animal

Ra's' resurrected animal

Mr Zoat said:
leads onto

leads on to

Mr Zoat said:
Garrick

Shouldn't this be Velocity Ten? I suppose Grayven might be able to use the Garrick formula temporarily before his divine resistance reverts it or something, but he used Velocity Ten as recently as Fawcett City.
(occurs multiple times)

Mr Zoat said:
I told it my to my ear

I hold it to my ear

Mr Zoat said:
fill my sense

fill my senses

Mr Zoat said:
shattering the manacle constructs and lunge forwards

"shattering the manacle constructs and lunging forwards" or "shattering the manacle constructs, and lunge forwards"

Mr Zoat said:
Garrick

Velocity Ten?

Mr Zoat said:
Garrick

Velocity Ten?

Mr Zoat said:
; Sinestro's might

: Sinestro's might

The Bushranger · Feb 3, 2018

shotiegun11 said:
Or that weird glowing Orange dude tha- HOLY BEETLE WHAT IS THAT GIANT SNAKE DOING IS SPAC-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. *Nom*

That'd be "Holy Writ", I believe.

NeoDarklight · Feb 3, 2018

You know, I gotta wonder- Will Kalmin be making other Personal Lanterns in the future, or has Hinon made sure that that particular stunt won't be happening again?

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

Dedicated ragequitter

Let's play doctor!

Turns out we're plural too.

Dedicated ragequitter

Dedicated ragequitter

Advance toward the Future

Let's play doctor!

Abomination

Feanor did nothing wrong.

Abomination

Feanor did nothing wrong.

Carbon-based biped

In the Danger Zone

Lord of Mind