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That's because you're thinking of it as a weapon, which only applies to top tier capes like Diana.
For lower-level villains it's a very useful can-opener.

Qa-sword beats bank vault.
Bank vault yields money. Money buys tech.
Tech laughs at gun.
For normal, sensible people, yes. But the quote was about supervillains. The kind of people who make fantastical, centuries ahead of its time technology, and then use that tech to rob convenience stores for pocket change or pick fights with people who think spandex is a sensible costume material.
For years I've wondered why so many men obsess over getting it on with Diana
Are you... actually unsure? Because there are pictures of her on the internet. Not even rule 34 stuff, just normal pictures that will answer your question. The fact that she could involuntarily castrate someone probably doesn't even rank comparatively.
 
I realized something at work today.

Would Batman obfuscating his desires like he did at the Nabu Debriefing prevent Paul from being able to lock on to teleport to him?
 
Wondy again needs a shave, but I can work with that. The other two hold no interest. Nice hair on Bats though, and Superwoman looks...familiar for some reason.
For ancient Greek men facial hair was a sign of masculinity, female Superman and Batman both reminds of Cate Blanchett facial wise, and the only thing that bothers me is the two Ws that make up Wonder Woman instead of a male version instead.
 
I'm half expecting that Paul is going to be blind sided from some major event that he missed while he was away for two months and he will help with the fallout.
 
I finished the first SpaceBattles thread! But I stopped rereading the actual chapters, for reasons of insufficient sadomasochism.

took the worst

Second problem:

firstly:

in order to affect change
in order to effect change

few days' work

so:

I always thought

Need to pick one

off to the

I wouldn't ever need

your old man

that day:

believe that God exists.
believe that God exists?

just saying:

he leads the way after him
This doesn't seem right.

nearby

clawed hands

a legal aide

but seriously:

takes the loads...and carries it out
takes the loads... and carries them out

Funny story:

We need to warn a Hong Kong national
Um... Pretty sure Sir Dorrance already knows. He was part of that conversation.

Looking at them I
 
Did you know the thread author can Threadmark other peoples Omakes?

Honestly, I don't know why people still make omakes for the story when Zoat seems to be indifferent, bordering on passively hostile to them.

He is definintly not hostile since several omakes made it into the official story, the problem is that all the indexes are indipendently run.

Plug-Plug Omake Index - With This Ring Wiki Add your omakes to the new list.
 
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Honestly, I don't know why people still make omakes for the story when Zoat seems to be indifferent, bordering on passively hostile to them.

I mean, for one thing, do people need a reason to express themselves by writing, and do they need a reason to share that writing? Second off, where are you getting "passively hostile" from? Indifferent, sure, he's not as reactive about them as most other authors on this site, but hostile? I never got that impression. I mean, he dislikes people asking him to write omakes, but that's about it.
 
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Second off, where are you getting "passively hostile" from?
Because we have the capability for multiple threadmark lists now, and the time difference compared to marking a threadmark when one pops up versus trying to hunt down a half remembered one later. It's one of those penny now vs a pound later deals. And he add threadmarks every day, so it should be easy for him.

If he doesn't put in the least little effort when someone goes to the trouble of making a threadmark, it just seems like a passive way of discouraging anyone to put in the effort. I mean, I think I read how thread owners can give others the ability to manage threadmarks, so he could have give the people who were interested in curating the Omakes or WoZ posts the capability to manage those threadmark lists without even needing to do each one himself.
 
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Because we have the capability for multiple threadmark lists now, and the time difference compared to marking a threadmark when one pops up versus trying to hunt down a half remembered one later. It's one of those penny now vs a pound later deals. And he add threadmarks every day, so it should be easy for him.

If he doesn't put in the least little effort when someone goes to the trouble of making a threadmark, it just seems like a passive way of discouraging anyone to put in the effort. I mean, I think I read how thread owners can give others the ability to manage threadmarks, so he could have give the people who were interested in curating the Omakes or WoZ posts the capability to manage those threadmark lists without even needing to do each one himself.

Have you looked at how many Omakes are on the current indexes? I would prefer the content-stream keep coming then him taking even 3 weeks off to index all the Omakes on all the threads.
 
Because we have the capability for multiple threadmark lists now, and the time difference compared to marking a threadmark when one pops up versus trying to hunt down a half remembered one later. It's one of those penny now vs a pound later deals. And he add threadmarks every day, so it should be easy for him.

If he doesn't put in the least little effort when someone goes to the trouble of making a threadmark, it just seems like a passive way of discouraging anyone to put in the effort. I mean, I think I read how thread owners can give others the ability to manage threadmarks, so he could have give the people who were interested in curating the Omakes or WoZ posts the capability to manage those threadmark lists without even needing to do each one himself.

...he adds threadmarks every day for stuff he's already doing. There's a huge difference between that, and going and trying to get a handle on omakes through literally thousands of pages, especially since Zoat presumably has a life outside of With This Ring. Besides, every time people say they're gonna gather all the omakes for him, they never follow up. Why should he bother? You seem to highly overestimate just how much work gathering these omakes are, given that within a week, you're already looking at twenty-thirty pages to comb through, and Zoat also has to worry about keeping up a good store of written chapters.
 
Have you looked at how many Omakes are on the current indexes? I would prefer the content-stream keep coming then him taking even 3 weeks off to index all the Omakes on all the threads.
Please read what you are replying to.
I think I read how thread owners can give others the ability to manage threadmarks, so he could have given the people who were interested in curating the Omakes or WoZ posts the capability to manage those threadmark lists without even needing to do each one himself.

...he adds threadmarks every day for stuff he's already doing. There's a huge difference between that, and going and trying to get a handle on omakes through literally thousands of pages, especially since Zoat presumably has a life outside of With This Ring.
What does the backlog have to do with not adding threadmarks as they come up?
Someone made that Corgi omake in the last week. Adding the threadmark when you read the post does not need anyone else to give you a list. You are making really bad excuses here. "All these other omakes need threadmarks, let's use that as an excuse for not threadmarking this new omake that came up"

The really neat thing about threadmarking stuff like that is you can easily tell if a post has been trademarked or not. Just by looking at the post. You have this dumb idea threadmarking needs to be done all at once as a set or something. Treat it like reporting typos. "Hey Zoat, With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve) | Page 1971 needs a threadmark" or something. There are Orders of magnitude fewer posts that need an edit to add a threadmark than there are typos that have been corrected. Add them as they come up, and add previous ones as they are brought to attention.

Hell, Most of the omakes are from the legacy ones from the previous 11 threads and cannot be trademarked in this thread anyway besides marking some historic omake list.
 
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I think I read how thread owners can give others the ability to manage threadmarks, so he could have given the people who were interested in curating the Omakes or WoZ posts the capability to manage those threadmark lists without even needing to do each one himself.

You can't (Or at least I can't) I checked on a post I recently made.

Someone made that Corgi omake in the last week. Adding the threadmark when you read the post does not need anyone else to give you a list. You are making really bad excuses here. "All these other omakes need threadmarks, let's use that as an excuse for not threadmarking this new omake that came up"

Oh, hey! Look at what I have been doing.

If you want stuff done, then do it yourself and stop complaining others are not doing it for you. That's why we added that page onto the wiki. (Which you are free to edit and add content to.
 
What does the backlog have to do with not adding threadmarks as they come up?

Did anyone ever ask for that to happen? Zoat's not obligated to threadmark something just because it's there, and I find it bizarre that you think he ought to.

The really neat thing about threadmarking stuff like that is you can easily tell if a post has been trademarked or not. Just by looking at the post. You have this dumb idea threadmarking needs to be done all at once as a set or something. Treat it like reporting typos. "Hey Zoat, With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve) | Page 1971 needs a threadmark" or something. There are Orders of magnitude fewer posts that need an edit to add a threadmark than there are typos that have been corrected. Add them as they come up, and add previous ones as they are brought to attention.

Not a bad battle plan, but I'm not taking it seriously until someone actually does it. Every time someone offers to round up the omakes, it doesn't happen. If you actually do this and Zoat still doesn't do anything, then you have a point. Until then, you have no solid ground to stand on.
 
Not a bad battle plan, but I'm not taking it seriously until someone actually does it. Every time someone offers to round up the omakes, it doesn't happen. If you actually do this and Zoat still doesn't do anything, then you have a point. Until then, you have no solid ground to stand on.

So the key thing is that each person has had to start all over, this means that areas tend to get skipped or work is duplicated. (And worse yet, we currently have 4 indexes.)

The wiki will eventually be a optimal place to consolidate all the omakes together. And since once one person is bored they can hand off to another, it won't die like all the others. (and more than one person can work on it at a time)

I am going to work on it when I start to get into the groove of going to college again. Once that happens I should be able to start going through all the links and adding them in proper.
 
Resolution (part 8)
12th September
14:31 GMT -5


"Intruder detected. Deploying-"

I don power armour and generate construct armour, then fold my arms.

"-countermeasures."

A laser turret to my right deploys and fires a weak beam at my helmet, aiming to blind me. Rubber bullets and beanbag rounds strike my construct armour to little effect. There's a quiet clang as gas and flashbang grenades land at my feet and a quiet hiss and not so quiet boom as they detonate.

"Batman?"

"Subject has metahuman durability. Escalating."

A metal rope bolas spins through the air and winds itself around me before flaring with electricity. Fortunately, constructs don't conduct electricity unless their user wants them to and it all arcs into the surrounding metalwork. Ooh, I would not want to have to repair that. Next come the low power plasma shots, causing weak ripples across my construct armour.

"Batman, I know you're there. I just came from seeing Di-."

I wince as the crumbler round triggers on my construct armour, destroying the outer layer. My return shot from a rapidly generated railgun smashes the turret responsible to pieces and penetrates the metal behind it, causing two of the nearby lights to go out.

"-ana seriously?!"

"Computer, stand down."

"Standing down."

I look around suspiciously for a moment, then deactivate my construct armour and float in the direction of Batman's work station. The man himself has his hood down… Which actually makes this the first time I've seen his face while he's wearing his costume. He's actually got noticeable mask-hair. It's off-puttingly humanising. It's.. not his Bruce Wayne persona, but I'm forced to relate to him as a person.

"I appreciate that we didn't part on particularly good terms, but I didn't think things were so bad that you were in a 'shooting on sight' kind of mood."

"The cave's defenses weren't set specifically to attack you. Until Diana notified me a moment ago, I didn't even know that you were on Earth."

I land and regard him for a moment. "That was a crumbler round."

"Crumbler rounds are highly effective against a wide variety of targets. As you know." His face remains remarkably expressionless. "I see that you've learned to teleport."

"Sort of."

"And found a way to bypass the wards protecting the cave."

"No, I-. Actually, I didn't try to scan for you. I just stepped out of the universe, looked for the patch of desires I know are you and then stepped back in. Since you're almost certainly only warded from other parts of the material universe, the only way to get around it would be to completely stop wanting things." We look at each other for a moment, though inside him I can see him starting to want a way to block that as well. "How have you been?"

"Busy. Crime didn't stop just because you left the planet."

Fair enough. I leave my armour on, but send my helmet back into subspace. "So… Diana gave me a summary of the League's feelings regarding the Nabu situation. Since your name wasn't specifically listed I'm going to assume you still aren't happy."

"You killed the League's magic expert without giving me any prior warning. Regardless of my feelings about your methodology, that created a major weakness in our ability to respond to magic threats."

"You've had eight years in which to find more magic users than the one you've been relying on. King Orin has dozens he could call upon, and I gave you a list last year. Did Diana speak to Doctor Tolon?"

"Doctor Tolon didn't feel that she could commit the time that League membership requires. The world wouldn't accept a Demon as a League member after the attack on Fawcett City, which makes Doctor Blood ineligible. And the Security Council has stated that they are reluctant to let the Justice League become 'an extension of the Atlantean military'."

"And the others?"

"They are proving somewhat difficult to locate. If you're interested, I would appreciate it if you could help us find a replacement."

"Were you not listening? Depending on one replacement is a bad idea. If you were planning on taking action against Nabu-"

"I was."

"-then-. Oh." I frown. "You didn't mention that."

"You have expressed an awareness of the fact that I have plans to counter the strengths of every League member." I nod. "Developing a method for combating Doctor Fate-. Nabu-"

"Nabu." Oh.

"-required knowledge well outside my normal area of expertise. In addition, I had to contend with the same need for secrecy that you did."

"I still managed it inside eight months."

"Yes. You did. Finding the right people or equipment to perform a task is something you've proven remarkably adept at."

Is he saying… That I out-Batmanned Batman? I guess that's a compliment.

"Okay, anyway… You need at least two. With a twenty one person Justice League four would be better, but…" Huh. She should be around… "I think I can.. get two within a reasonable timeframe. Neither are active superheroes, but they've got the magic skills you need."

"Is one of them the current owner of the Helmet of Fate?"

"Not unless things have gone seriously awry while I was away." Though I am going to need to speak to John… "I don't think… That person would be inclined to join the Justice League."

Batman looks at me, then his eyes narrow slightly. "John Constantine."

"I will neither confirm nor deny any guess-."

"He's a magic user you know well, believes himself to be in debt to Giovanni after the death of Sindella Zatara and has proven himself against stronger opponents on numerous occasions. What I'm not clear on is why he's keeping the Helmet. Or why -if the Helmet is intact- you claimed that Nabu was dead."

"Oh, Nabu's dead. Brain dead. If you read my full-."

"His consciousness was magic-based. Your mana batteries drained it when they overloaded."

"No, they deformatted it. Power still flows from the Plane of Order, but there's no mind present to do anything with it."

His face relaxes as he nods. "Except Constantine."

"I was gone two months. I don't know what he's doing with it now. But he was keeping hold of it when I left."

"Do you intend to return to active duty?"

"I'm the Illustres of the Orange Lantern Corps. I'm always on active duty. What you mean is: do I intend to work for you?"

"If you prefer."

"You asked me to find two magic users and I'm planning on doing it. So it sounds like the answer's 'yes'."
 
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