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I'd just like to quote this without any comment added whatsoever to it. None at all. Nada.

Anyway. The turrets didn't fire on OL, in spite of Silvana expecting them to. What gives? It didn't seem like he took any particular precautions?
I would guess that it assumed that since it did not detect something coming in (Teleport, or otherwise) nothing had come in. As such it went "Ah well, if nothing came in then everything must have already been here" and ignored him.

It shouldn't. She can still visit any Corps member, with filtering so they don't go orange-crazy.
Relevant question: does OL have that filtering?
 
Seriously, what is with everyone bitching at Paul? First Dox and now Hinon. You know, all this is only possible because of him. Otherwise, you Dox, would still be in prison with wires in your brain. You Hinon would still be in a dead to the world coma and the rest of you controllers and your darkstars would still have no chance against the reach. Is a little gratitude too much to ask?

Because he keeps creating problems and casually making revolutionary discoveries. If you give someone the job to prepare for war, the least you can do is leave them to it rather than popping around creating problems for them to deal with. He's already going to be the most legendary figure in the Orange Lantern Corps, if he could just stop gallivanting around the galaxy for a while it would make their jobs much easier.
 
This feels like a fake out. After his death was revealed in the Renegade timeline we're obviously going to expect this means he's died in the Paragon timeline. But I honestly don't believe it and it feels like a fake out.

Unless Alan is the first person OL tries to bring back. Man, whatever horrible side-effects it apparently comes with is not something Alan deserves.
Yes, because coming back from the dead is such a rare and terrible thing in comics for non-gingers.
 
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A totally reasonable response to a new insanity unveiled by a devout worshiper of Eris. Hail Discordia!
Actually curious how Eris's going to react to the SI coming home. She gave him a big wet kiss when he inadvertently broke up Hera and Zeus, imagine what destroying an interstellar civilization, at least one religion, and all the other craziness he's gotten into out there's going to do to her. (And just can't wait until news of Cake Man, Spider Consort comes back to Earth).
 
@Mr Zoat In episode 1 there are two renegade options. Are which ones are cannon? (I'm doing wiki editing and need the Word Of God.)

(I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread the last time.)
Did you not read the Renegade parts in question?:confused: A flows straight into B. as in, B is a continuation of A, not an alternative timeline. Mr Zoat simply hadn't settled on how he was going to label the Renegade sequences at that point.

Thanks for putting that in a spoiler. There are some (like me) who have not ever watched YJ or whatever it's called. :)
The spoiler in question is based on a Word of Zoat rather than the cartoon.
 
Thanks. I had assumed he was canon.
Nah, the JSA heroes don't come up beyond Dr Fate's whole thing and Jay Garrick being part of the Kid Flash and Impulse drama. I believe canon is that they're all dead except maybe Wildcat.

That said, Alan getting stronger from a leaky lantern was a thing somewhere between the 80's and 00's, but it was because the Starheart was a sentient magical thing that escaped the lantern. And his kids got the powers while he stayed young for the same reason as the rest of the JSA: something to do with a timetravelling villain or something.
 
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Intelligent? Yes. Smart? No.
Seems to be a theme for Paul's more intellectual acquaintances.

Alan isn't dead, he just can't be sensed through avarice because he's mostly made of will.
Or he is just in one of the many locations Paul insisted get warded.
I foresee much anguish as Paul returns to a planet where Ring scans are worthless.

Still, there it is. The Ophidian is away from Paul. Hope that doesn't bite him in the future.
Pretty sure he can still call her up with a thought.
Guy doesn't need to carry Ion around.
 
What's wrong with Blue?
In addition to other insightful responses, blue is the opposite of orange. In principle, if you're channeling blue, it completely shuts down orange, and vice versa...
Which sort of makes sense. In Orange madness, you have no need to hope for anything, because you just take it or make it.

Of course, the other way to put it is that they're complementary colors enhancing each others, but I haven't seen anyone in DC taking a note of that.... yet.

She gave him a big wet kiss when he inadvertently broke up Hera and Zeus,
In all fairness, that was personal, and Greek Gods are very focused on the personal. Still, I'd expect a thumbs up, at the very least.
 
Spider Consort comes back to
He'll probably have already said something to the effect of she asked to help put her armor in for a meeting in which a group of slavers would be discussed and needed a body gaurd as someone had already tried to assassinate her, nothing beyond one accidental touch and everyone seems to like blowing it out of proportion.
 
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He'll probably have already said something to the effect of she asked to help put her armor in for a meeting in which a group of slavers would be discussed and needed a body gaurd as someone had already tried to assassinate her, nothing beyond one accidental touch and everyone seems to like blowing it out of proportion.

But it's fun to blow it out of proportion.

In all fairness, that was personal, and Greek Gods are very focused on the personal. Still, I'd expect a thumbs up, at the very least.

This is assuming that she can actually see him with his tattoos. I figure she was cheating on earth via second hand accounts or something.
 
What's wrong with Blue?

Blue plus green : Extra power, too much blue and greenies blow up!
Would Paul feel Alan if he was in a Sciencell?

Science Paul could revive Alan as a living energy being in a containment suit. But Alan didn't lost his lantern in that universe since that Paul got Mad science instead of a power ring.

MADSCIENCE! Paul mentor is Doctor Will Magnus. As he is mad scientist who tries his best to do good and understands how to deal with the "madness".

Oh and Science Paul got a soul using the Doctor Frankenstein method.

Frankenstein (DC Comics) - Wikipedia

And he is dealing with an invasion of a multiverse army of the Black lead by Black Light Paul.

And a mad "compassion" cult.
 
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"Is it likely to take long? I realise that Clarissi Dox is supposed to be the brains of the outfit, but I do like to think that the number two man can spark a couple of neurons now and again."

I huff, then step forward to plug my personal lantern into the indicated attachment point. "I just think there should be more ceremony to something like this. We're transferring the Embodiment of Avarice into our Central Power Battery. There should be a parade… Line of Lanterns hailing her…"
Well, once Paul has recruited enough witches, wizards, and varied ritualists who are sufficiently desirous enough for the Orange Lantern Corp, I'm sure they'll whip up something that would be MORE than suitable for her!

Parades, rhythmic chanting/invocations, ecstatic dancing, the works!
 
You did that just to troll us didn't you Mister Zoat? :lol
Who, me?
A Russian woman got recruited after Guy and Hal joined the Honour Guard.
Anya Savenlovich.
with the seniority of D.
B, actually. Guy and Hal are no longer assigned to the sector.
Aren't these the same thing? One of these should be the middle finger.
Thank you, corrected.
In all fairness, YJ canon is that Alan Scott died a few years before the show started, so nothing involving him is based off of the show (but there's plenty of stuff drawn from older comics).
We don't actually know that for certain. The only thing we have to go on is the fact that he wasn't in the panel showing Kent Nelson's funeral. He might just have been out of shot, given that none of Mister Nelson's family were either.
I just have this amusing image of some time in the future him coming to the slow, horrified realization that he's been working for the good guys for years.
I actually have an episode planned for that.
Relevant question: does OL have that filtering?
What filtering?
 
Why are you taking the actions of people OL has deliberately sought out to act as equals and superiors in turn so personally?
Because whenever I read, or watch, anything that I enjoy, I tend to put myself in the character's shoes. The way Dox and Hinon tend to talk to Paul would utterly infuriate me. I dislike people who are constantly shitty with me, especially when I'm perfectly polite to them. Also, if you are supposed to be an equal, to say nothing of a superior, having a little bit of tact and NOT insulting your subordinates constantly can go a long way.

Secondly, they are the type of character that just annoys the hell out of me. The mouthy Royal Smart Person.

It shouldn't. She can still visit any Corps member, with filtering so they don't go orange-crazy.
You're probably right. I'm just a paranoid person when it comes to super powers that can be taken away.

Because he keeps creating problems and casually making revolutionary discoveries. If you give someone the job to prepare for war, the least you can do is leave them to it rather than popping around creating problems for them to deal with. He's already going to be the most legendary figure in the Orange Lantern Corps, if he could just stop gallivanting around the galaxy for a while it would make their jobs much easier.
So he's supposed to just sit on his ass like a little child and let the adults handle things? Also, what problems? Pretty much everything Paul has done has either been for the betterment of the universe, or his corps personally.

If it wasn't for his gallivanting they would BOTH be brain dead right now. Have a little gratitude and respect for both your savior, and the man who made ALL this possible.

Finally, Paul asked for the Blue lantern to save his grandfather figure's life. Hinon can shut her shitty mouth about it. It's not Paul's fault he keeps showing her billion year old ass up.

Guy doesn't need to carry Ion around.
Very true. I guess I just get paranoid that a backstab is on the way...especially with how they treat Paul.
 
"If it makes you feel any better, we didn't have one when we bottled Ion either."
Guy Gardner.

"
Whuh, Ion?! ...Yeeeeaaah? What is it, big fella? What do ya, ah, "want"?"

A celebration would be nice.

"
....Kay. You mean, like a party? Cause I'm ALL for parties! or maybe- wait a minute... is this about what the Orange guys are doing for the Ophidian?."

The Embodiment of Avarice receives ritualistic praise and festivities of varied form in her honor. In the interest of balancing the scales, it is only logical that works of merriment should be performed in my name as well...

"Come on man! Can't you talk to the Guardians about this-?"

My emotionally stunted "protectors", as well as the rest of their Maltusian kin, have not been in the habit of partying for multiple millenia. YOU and other members of our Corp on the other hand, are "All for Partying", yes?

"
...Eh, can't really argue with that. I'll, ah, grab a few of the guys, knock our heads together, and see what we can come up with."

Much thanks.
 
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The Green Light is DRM-locked by the Guardians, after the last time the Qwardians fucked with it.
Blue Light, on the other hand isn't. And it's cross-compatible with Green, because it supercharges Green even in the absence of recharge.
Guardians: *Smug * The ORange Lantern will not be able to ge ta new lantern for this 'Alan', when the time is near we will offer one on OUR terms and he will be forced to....

Guy Gardner: Guy reporting in.. umm just a heads up but Paul apparntly got his new weaponer buddy to make a Blue Lantern for Scott.... kinda neat how it can boost us ya know?

Guardians: SON OF A BITCH! Orange lantern NO!

*SOmehow throughw the emotional specturm*

Ophidian: ORANGE LANTERNS YES!
 
Because whenever I read, or watch, anything that I enjoy, I tend to put myself in the character's shoes. The way Dox and Hinon tend to talk to Paul would utterly infuriate me. I dislike people who are constantly shitty with me, especially when I'm perfectly polite to them. Also, if you are supposed to be an equal, to say nothing of a superior, having little bit of tact and NOT insulting your subordinates constantly can go a long way.

Hinon and Dox are actually pretty consistent here. Dox is simultaneously a great leader, and a crappy people person. He could have said it better, but he's correct that Paul is undermining his authority and doing things that seem right but could have massive negative reprecussions.

Hinon seems rushed here. Possibly by Dox. Then again, she's always antagonistic but caring. The fact a weaponer is experimenting with Hope is a scary thing. So, it's unsurprising she reacted with concern. I had just hoped to see Paul interacting with her more.
 
So on the turret issue, maybe Paul is on a "Don't kill on sight list" that one of the kids programmed into them?

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The question now is if they think this is a bug that needs to be fixed
 
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Dox is simultaneously a great leader,
:Citation Needed:

but he's correct that Paul is undermining his authority
Paul hasn't done a single thing of the sort. It's not his fault he is both more visible, friendly, and much more actively involved with the corpsmen/women. We haven't seen a single person refuse an order from Dox on account of him "Not being Paul."

Dox's ego is just hurting. Quite frankly, I don't see why he feels that sole ownership of the OLC should be his. I really don't think he truly understands what Paul means for the OLC to be. Again, he might be the right guy for the job offered, but the wrong guy for what the job has evolved into.

I mean for fucks sake Paul felt the need to warn the OPHIDIAN. If anything the corps is absolutely HERS. It literally can not exist without her light.

doing things that seem right but could have massive negative reprecussions.
You will never convince me that stopping the vicious blinding/mutilation of an entire class of people is/was a bad thing.

Then again, she's always antagonistic but caring
I don't recall her being caring...I just really don't like that type of character. She's out and out called Paul stupid several times now.

The fact a weaponer is experimenting with Hope is a scary thing.
Alan needs help, and Kalim got results. Advancing the understanding of the Blue light of hope is a good thing in my opinion and I have a very low opinion of the BLC.
 
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:Citation Needed:

Paul hasn't done a single thing of the sort. It's not his fault he is both more visible, friendly, and much more actively involved with the corpsmen/women. We haven't seen a single person refuse an order from Dox on account of him "Not being Paul."

Dox's ego is just hurting. Quite frankly, I don't see why he feels that sole ownership of the OLC should be his. I really don't think he truly understands what Paul means for the OLC to be. Again, he might be the right guy for the job offered, but the wrong guy for what the job has evolved into.

I mean for fucks sake Paul felt the need to warn the OPHIDIAN. If anything the corps is absolutely HERS. It literally can not exist without her light.

You will never convince me that stopping the vicious blinding/mutilation of an entire class of people is/was a bad thing.

I don't recall her being caring...I just really don't like that type of character. She's out and out called Paul stupid several times now.

Alan needs help, and Kalim got results. Advancing the understanding of the Blue light of hope is a good thing in my opinion and I have a very low opinion of the BLC.

i also feel like he's STUCK thinking about the short term,
and to be blunt, given ALL of the practical life-extension techniques available, less than 100 years IS thinking short-term, VERYMUCH so!
and if its THAT much fucking work he can DELEGATE -_-

he's complaining (by his standards of emotional self-control,throwing a full-on whinging, screaming temper tantrum) over a few decades of extra work that'll lead to a planet (assuredly with at least SOME strategic assets/resources) with VERY close traditional ties to the OLC- AND a natural predisposition to offer the corps recruits/ non-lantern support personnel....

im worried we have an EXTREMELY compitant administrator being shoehorned into a LEADERSHIP role-and he's a...little lacking in charisma.....

and to be EXTREMELY blunt,
what the FUCK does he think forcing the Reach off partially-subsumed worlds will entail?
is he CHILDISHLY NAIVE enough to believe that the occupation, followed by execution of the willing collaborators AND euthanasia of the irreparably-altered (surgically) vital members of the planetary government will leave a REMOTELY FUNCTIONAL Nation/WORLD behind?
that they'll be able to INSTANTLY, maaagiically go back to self-government after decades or MORE of being run by the reach, not even MENTIONING the long-term effects of extreme prolonged exposure to the mind/mood-altering drugs they were planning to dump into Earth's biosphere in massive quantities (we're talking many BILLIONS of litres here given the sheer AMOUNT required to be more than a, pun intended,drop in the ocean) which would cause....issues with plant and animal life...

this is a PRICELESS opportunity for a "dry run" on HOW to hand a post-liberation cleanup and rebuild WITHOUT having to constantly keep an eye out for overt retaliatory attacks, WITH a VERY large percentage of the population EXTREMELY friendly/grateful for the corps after a relatively short,clean conflict, and he's COMPLAINING?
 
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