Dox needs to be in charge, not a figurehead. Paul took a secondary position on purpose.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Dox needs to be in charge, not a figurehead. Paul took a secondary position on purpose.
HanEmpire
Delicious
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- Canada
If Dox's authority is only theoretical, he hasn't actually been handed a lantern corps; instead, he's gotten a power ring and a desk job. It's quite smooth of Dox to resolve this by actually giving Paul a reasonable order... and that also has the secondary benefit of stopping up the resource drain imposed by Paul's altruistic desires. Sure, Malthus can afford that sort of expenditure... but they do intend to fight a war with a peer power, and that kind of thing is better prepared for by acquiring strong allies instead of weak protectorates.
TheLurker
Random Omnipotent Lazy-As-Fuck Being
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- The space beyond the stars
He kind of has a POINT though. The corp looking towards paul as the highest authority, when he isn't, could cause serious and damaging problems further down the line.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Paul is honestly treating him like a secretary.
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- Earth
Gotta say, I was expecting Dox to become less... unpleasant, over time, but that doesn't seem to be coming to fruition. I hope he's not this much of an asshole forever, or else the OLC is gonna be pretty shit. I understand that he has useful desires (though personally I can't imagine why he would ever choose to totally give up control of the OLC, since he would no longer have any power to ensure that it would be the sort of organization he intended it to be), but sometimes it doesn't seem like it.
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Cherico
Machine
Paul is a nice guy a great guy, but he does keep giving Dox problems.
Its like having that nice lady who keeps bringing you stray cats, you owe her one yes, you like her yes, but dear god lady stop with the cats already.
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
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- madison
It occurs to me that Paul is at least mostly immune to the kind of asshole dox is. He's abrasive and condescending but mostly logical. Paul doesn't really register those two as issues these days. So long as dox is reasonable paul will work something out with him. That's probably why this is at all viable since dox seems to find paul at least a bit aggravating. Paul being willing to bend and harbor no ill will means that he'll be willing to bend to keep things moving.
"And Transition back-"
Paul's shield flares as the flames lick at it.
"And everything's on fire and people are screaming."
"OH GOD ITS A LANTERN!"
"Home, sweet home."
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- England
Eeeeugh, I can see Dox causing/having some problems down the line. He has a fundamental misunderstanding even now about how orange light works. They won't all "disobey", they will be functionally incapable of carrying the order out if they disagree with it. Even if they submit to his authority as leader, if they think he's wrong (and most importantly in Dox' case, if he doesn't bother to inform them why he isn't) they will not do what he wants.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
I'd actually call this whole situation an objective win. Paul has set up a Corps that doesn't need his constant presence. He has competent people in all the necessary jobs and can go off to do other things.
As I recall, Earth needs some attention in his timeline anyway...
If she only just lost her eyes and wanted them back, why can't her ring regrow them?
As I recall, Earth needs some attention in his timeline anyway...
replacement eyes
she also appears
I'm pretty sure this usage of "momentarily" is an American idiom. The word really means "for a moment" not "in a moment".
whose cybernetic eyes
If she only just lost her eyes and wanted them back, why can't her ring regrow them?
different enough from
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Clearly OL recognizes that Dox has a point or he wouldn't have made a public show of demonstrating deference.
Of course OL also has a point that a Corps of Orange Lanterns are going to tend to do what they want. The phrase "herding cats" comes to mind...
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Of course OL also has a point that a Corps of Orange Lanterns are going to tend to do what they want. The phrase "herding cats" comes to mind...
Typos:
"replacement"
"from"
...
That is just mean. No confirmation either way of whether or not Natu joined up or not. Probably not since them going cybernetics rather then them being all fixed up via her waving her ring at them and wanting them healed.
That is just mean. No confirmation either way of whether or not Natu joined up or not. Probably not since them going cybernetics rather then them being all fixed up via her waving her ring at them and wanting them healed.
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Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
This is kind of an awkward thing to say to an alien. Something like "Only a century after their industrial revolution" or "Barely into their digital era" would be more sensible.
Dox doesn't need to be sociable. He needs to be an effective general. Let the SI be the leader everyone turns to for instruction, fire support and comradere, while Dox is the one who selects critical targets and makes sure that the Lanterns have fleet backup. They probably will need professional diplomats for getting support from places close to the Reach, but Dox himself can be deficient so long as people don't actively mutiny against him. Besides, they know that the SI recruited him and trusts him, so he can't be bad at his job.
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Who is this? Can someone remind me?
Edit: Nevermind, reread the scene, it's her daughter apperently? Cool, I wonder how many of the women became Orange Lantern.
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Breadnaugt
Even in Death, I'm still Tasty
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- Britland
Power Rings are awesome.
Seriously, his Ring feed Paul information so he understands alien body language. So he knows if the wing-jerk/tentacle flop is their equivalent of a shrug/rude gesture.
Truly Universal Translator. Dox isn't hearing his words, he's hearing what Paul means.
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- She/Her
The ring translates it into something sensible to Dox.
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- Wishing I was somewhere much colder, I asssume.
He's going back to Earth already? I was expecting him to be in space for at least one year. It's been, what, two months? It's been a good three-fourths of a year in real life, but I was honestly not expecting OL to go back to Earth this soon. I mean I was pretty sure he'd be making short visits sometimes, but this seems like it's going to be a more permanent arrangement.
I guess he can still have space-adventures whenever he wants now that he isn't bound to the solar system Earth inhabits.
Though I wouldn't put it past Dox to have taken a couple of minutes to learn English and applicable cultural references, just so he can better psychologically model his subordinate. (That's the sort of thing a Brainiac can do.)
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- Lynn, MA
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- He/Him/His
He can transition back forth once it's completed, he no longer needs to wait around for it.
nmWarden
Webcomic Glutton
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- Texas
Paul's behavior, from Dox's perspective, feels like a seeing-eye dog that keeps bringing home fleas. He is vital to the Corps, but they don't need him to grab every item or take every step first. Dox is ensuring that the baby Corps knows how to walk, talk, and feed itself independently. Paul's choice of Dox and his own chosen role are not perfect. They don't match what he WANTS at this stage. That doesn't make them wrong.
So! Where will Paul go before returning to Earth? What gift shops is he stopping at?
So! Where will Paul go before returning to Earth? What gift shops is he stopping at?
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When doesn't it.
Thank you, corrected.
You're free to take it up with the Tillettitian government.
Because she's a teenager and thinks robot eyes are cool.
In the unlikely event that Dox hadn't spent a lot of his time trying to work out how the SI thinks (he has) it would be easy for him to check what was meant.
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