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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Mr Zoat said:
wires run from the holes where they used to be to a band around his head
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While this sentence is grammatically sound, I have to wonder if you meant "where there used to be". As written, you're saying there was a band around his head, and now that band has come apart into individual wires that are hanging from where they used to be mounted. With my suggested correction in place, it would mean there was a band around his head, and now that band is gone, and wires have been attached to the place where it came off.

Angelform said:
Experience is generally considered to be important. A dude that has been using a Ring for 2 days is likely to be better at it than a guy who has been using it for less than one.
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That's what the overdrive feature is there for -- substitute experience with stupid amounts of brute strength.
 
Mr Zoat said:
It is part of the system which boosts their brains, maxing out their willpower.
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And this is why I could see this being a dangerous fight. Yes, he's a rookie, but he's a rookie with a rocket launcher in close quarters, with access to qwa bolts. And we have no idea how good the ring's AI is - if it suggests the mental acceleration trick OL is so fond of... This could be rough.
 
Angelform said:
Experience is generally considered to be important. A dude that has been using a Ring for 2 days is likely to be better at it than a guy who has been using it for less than one.
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Why would they want someone to be able to use a ring well? Remember what happened with the Sinestro Corps?

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@Silverias, you appear to have made a woopsie.
 
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Something I've always been curious about:

If the Antithesis ring maxes out your willpower to superhuman levels, why did it not make antithesis OL superhumanly willful against the ring itself?

Moved from Story Only thread because SOMEONE is an idiot. I won't say who. It's meeee
 
Angelform said:
Experience is generally considered to be important. A dude that has been using a Ring for 2 days is likely to be better at it than a guy who has been using it for less than one.
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I think the rings augment this by telling the user that to do. The AI isn't as passive as a normal ring.

The big difference is they're specked to fight green lanterns. So, they know how greenies normally fight and can do the whole energy drain thing. However, Guy's been around Paul. So, he fights differently and may be able to resist the drain.
 
Mr Zoat said:
You understand fear, and the ring gives it form. You have to have the intent to cause fear.
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This is speculation, but it's been pointed out before that ironically Green Lantern powers are determined by their mastery over "Fear," which always leads me to think that Yellow Lanterns are, in a sense, powered by their mastery over "Willpower". Granted, this is when yellow anything just doesn't punch right through green barriers. I gotta say, I still prefer Alan's original magic ring....wood weakness and all. Then again, I just prefer magic over tech anyway. Not much of a sci-fi fan.

I guess that one of the differences being that the Green Lantern's struggles are internal (passive), and dealing primarily with overcoming their own fears. The Yellow Lantern's powers are external (aggressive) attempting to strip away another person's willpower or powered by the ringbearer's own paranoia/fear in a weird kind of way of feeding on itself.

Hmmm...I don't recall it happening yet. But I wonder just how powerful Paul would be in combat if a villain brought forth his ire to the extent that all he wanted, with all of his being at that very moment, was their utter destruction. A thought mostly brought on by a ponder about just when in battle would Paul's eyes turn to the corps symbol.

Mr Zoat said:
You have to appreciate the wonder of life. I think I wrote once that I expereinced that for about six hours once. No drugs were involved. Honest.
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I believe you. Unlike most, I don't feel drugs are ever required to experience wonder. I've had it more then once. One time when I went scuba diving while in Hawaii, with the clearest, cleanest water I've ever seen. I pretty much weighed myself down, and sat on the ocean floor for about, I dunno, 20-30 minutes, and it was amazing how much wildlife just came right up to me.

I also got to watch Hubble in an IMax theater. Amazing.
 
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Yog said:
One might try to reconcile this as anti-green being an aspect of black the same way green is an aspect of white.
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Or you know, give up the notion that its impossible to make a power ring without emotional energy.

Emotional energy is convenient because it is responsive to thought, but constructs made out of solid energy are a dime a dozen in the DC franchise.

Starman's staff makes constructs out of starlight, the Controller's gave Effigy the power to make solid constructs out of fire, Amethyst makes constructs out of magic, etc, etc.

And while the anti green lantern corps is old, Blacklight from Batman Beyond universe first showed up in 01.

So let's see black, makes constructs, absorbs light.

Sounds a lot like the powers of Shade and others who tap into the Shadowlands, now doesn't it?
 
Coda said:
While this sentence is grammatically sound, I have to wonder if you meant "where there used to be". As written, you're saying there was a band around his head, and now that band has come apart into individual wires that are hanging from where they used to be mounted. With my suggested correction in place, it would mean there was a band around his head, and now that band is gone, and wires have been attached to the place where it came off.
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He isn't wearing a helmet,
his cybernetic eyes are broken and wires run from the holes where they used to be
to a band around his head.
Silverias said:
Something I've always been curious about:

If the Antithesis ring maxes out your willpower to superhuman levels, why did it not make antithesis OL superhumanly willful against the ring itself?
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Why would the ring's AI decide that was a good idea?
Maxx Crowley said:
I believe you. Unlike most, I don't feel drugs are ever required to experience wonder. I've had it more then once. One time when I went scuba diving while in Hawaii, with the clearest, cleanest water I've ever seen. I pretty much weighed myself down, and sat on the ocean floor for about, I dunno, 20-30 minutes, and it was amazing how much wildlife just came right up to me.

I also got to watch Hubble in an IMax theater. Amazing.
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Yeah. That feeling right there, that's what you need in order to use the white light. Good luck doing it on command.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Why would the ring's AI decide that was a good idea?
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I mean...because unless I miss my mark, making someone "200% more willful when it comes to constructs but not anything else" is inconsistent with how you've displayed power rings working up to this point. If it was that easy to program selectiveness into a ring AI, orange rings would be way less dangerous.
 
Silverias said:
I mean...because unless I miss my mark, making someone "200% more willful when it comes to constructs but not anything else" is inconsistent with how you've displayed power rings working up to this point. If it was that easy to program selectiveness into a ring AI, orange rings would be way less dangerous.
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I'm pretty sure that's how I made it work.
Mr Zoat said:
"Magnify."

Uuehh. As ever, making a construct feels like I'm undergoing amateur brain surgery. Antithesis rings -or as the Qwardians call them 'slave-rings'- were originally designed to be used on mass cloned slaves with little mental activity bar what was imprinted on them so they wouldn't soil their owners' laboratories. Whenever I use it to make a construct it 'boosts' my mental acuity in the same way it would have boosted theirs. I suppose that their lives were so generally unpleasant that the added discomfort didn't really register, but it does for me.

Master has so far refused to tell me whether it has to do that every time or if it can work like a normal green ring.

On the other hand, there are advantages to having my willpower artificially increased. The increase in mental clarity while it's active is really quite noticeable. Right now I'm tracking the League members as they move from trouble spot to trouble spot. Here, Wonder Woman blocks some sort of particle beam shot from a robot's arm gun with her bracers, defending a crowd of people. There, Superman sends one staggering back with a punch to the head, pushing it away from its objective. Over to the west, Batman directs the sidekicks in attacking a warehouse that was used as part of the criminals' staging area.
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Mr Zoat said:
It is part of the system which boosts their brains, maxing out their willpower. Weaponers can make rings without that, but why would they?
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In case someone stuck a Antithesis ring on your hand as a slow way to murder you, or so Weaponers could use it themselves. So loyal operatives could use it without you diminishing your own forces to no gain at all on a daily basis?

Mr Zoat said:
Why would they want someone to be able to use a ring well? Remember what happened with the Sinestro Corps?
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So why can't they use remote control and shutoff abilities, administrative overrides, etc?
Are there two sides to every Schwartz, an upside and a down side?
The Weaponers got gud with ALL the Weapons, and the Guardians got leet skillz with the Nanny Apps and Malware?
 
Mr Zoat said:
Ring location of
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Ring, location of

Mr Zoat said:
Gordon look blank
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Gordon looks blank

Mr Zoat said:
follow up instruction
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follow my instruction

In as much
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Inasmuch

Mr Zoat said:
what magic user can
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what magic users can

Mr Zoat said:
sheath the Sword
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sheathe the Sword

Mr Zoat said:
pass through opening
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pass through the opening
 
BrambleThorn said:
In case someone stuck a Antithesis ring on your hand as a slow way to murder you, or so Weaponers could use it themselves. So loyal operatives could use it without you diminishing your own forces to no gain at all on a daily basis?
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Reasons.

And I cannot get SV to let me just stick that picture in here
So why can't they use remote control and shutoff abilities, administrative overrides, etc?
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Empathic weapons aren't really a mainstream thing on Qward. Only a few Weaponers actually know how to make them, and they have no desire to take to the front lines themselves.
ThrawnCA said:
move on to his comrades
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Thank you, corrected.
ThrawnCA said:
Ring, location of
Gordon looks blank
follow my instruction
Inasmuch
what magic users can
sheathe the Sword
pass through the opening
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Thank you, corrected.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
The back of the crowd of Thunderers part
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The back of the crowd of Thunderers parts

It's sometimes a bit unclear, in cases like these, whether the verb refers to one group or to many individuals. However, in this case, unless the Thunderers are metamorphs, it's pretty clearly the group.

Of course. Ragnar himself
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Should this be a comma?

Shine through the void with orange light.
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This needs an exclamation mark!
 
Gantradies said:
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT OUT LOUD?!?!?
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*coughs* sorry. Worm flashback.
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... I'm starting a Petition for Taylor to end up in the Renegade Timeline come next April. Not sure from which part of her timeline. But I wish to see this glory. Grayven Enabling the Queen of Escalation. Darksied won't know what hit him.
 
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