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Instead of the qwa-bolts I half-feared he hoists a round shield and a short sword aloft.

Ragnar's sword might go through the Thunderer's armour but if he tries to parry with it the Thunderer's sword will go straight through it without slowing.


Instead of the qwa-bolts I half-feared, he hoists a round shield and a short sword aloft.

Ragnar's sword might go through the Thunderer's armour but if he tries to parry with it, the Thunderer's sword will go straight through it without slowing.
 
Presumably he's actually a decent swordsman.
I still rather expect him to get slaughtered.

Oh well, idiots getting themselves killed is a problem and a solution all in one package.
I expect him to win, because those skill points had to go somewhere, melee has to be his specialty, and him dying would be a hilarious anti-climax.

I'm kind of half-rooting for the anti-climax at this point.

EDIT: Oh, also, because I have to say it: "Twenty quatloos on the newcomer."
 
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Instead of the qwa-bolts I half-feared, he hoists a round shield and a short sword aloft.
Ragnar's sword might go through the Thunderer's armour but if he tries to parry with it, the Thunderer's sword will go straight through it without slowing.
Thank you, corrected.
I've always wondered if Zoat rhymes with goat, or if it is "Zoh-Aht"
Interesting you should ask that. @jcw3 asked me the same thing a while ago, and I said that while I pronounced it 'zote' he'd need to ask Rick Priestley if that was correct or not. So by the power of Reddit, he did, and lo, it was.
 
I expect him to win, because those skill points had to go somewhere, melee has to be his specialty, and him dying would be a hilarious anti-climax.

Being skilled in melee wouldn't mean much. Thunderers are also skilled in melee, and presumably better equipped.
Probably physically superior and genetically modified even beyond that.

In comic-books, super soldiers can be bested by someone who's brave, plucky and skilled.
Applying real-world logic to that though, and you'd realise that someone who's entire life is dedicated to combat is also going to be highly skilled and they're probably completely fearless too.
 
His opponent isn't made to vault over anything; they open the actual pit doors for him. The Thunderer's traditional wing-decorated helmet sits on his head, and the thing about a helmet with wings on is that it's still a metal case to protect the wearer's head, which is more than ninety five percent of superheroes manage. Thick armour covers his chest, back, forearms, shoulders and lower legs, while a flexible mesh undersuit protects the rest of him. I haven't been able to precisely evaluate the buzz sword, but I wouldn't want to try it against the solid plates. That leaves face, thighs and sides as targets. His eyes are covered by the red cybernetic attachments Q'ardajin elites like to use in place of their natural eyes. It makes them seem somewhat bug-eyed, but it also serves to render them immune to a wide range of visual distractions and widens the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum they can see. There's a quiver on his back, but it's empty. Instead of the qwa-bolts I half-feared, he hoists a round shield and a short sword aloft.

You know, I suppose it's possible the Qwardians all use the same outfits and general weapons. But when you combine the description here with the fact that it's made conspicuously obvious that Paul has not seen the actual fighting yet and, thus, is only assuming those are normal qwa-enhanced weapons, I'm half expecting this guy to turn out to be The Weaponer...
 
You know, I suppose it's possible the Qwardians all use the same outfits and general weapons. But when you combine the description here with the fact that it's made conspicuously obvious that Paul has not seen the actual fighting yet and, thus, is only assuming those are normal qwa-enhanced weapons, I'm half expecting this guy to turn out to be The Weaponer...
Oh gosh no. No Weaponer would join in this sort of spectacle. Duran's equipment is in line with the SI's files on Thunderers.
 
But if there must be a lord of order for each lord of chaos active in a location and there is no available lord of order to move to a location, then the lord of chaos cannot move there either.

And there's a difference between the scientific principle of entropy and Death of the Endless saying that someday the universe shall end.

Klarion was running around Earth while Nabu was stuck on a shelf for 65 years. Being stuck on a shelf does not equal active. So going to have to call bullshit on that theory since it doesn't fit the facts.

And Mordru freaking ran his planet, where was his active lord of order opposition? So that's 0 of 2 planets where a lord of chaos was dependent on a Lord of order being active locally.

What the emissary of Order said was that a lord of order are assigned to counteract a local lord of chaos so if Klarion went bye bye Order would be willing to revisit the necessity of the Dr Fate situation. That's a patrol officer having a beat.

And talk about the end of the universe nothing. Tim Hunter saw Destiny die at the end of the universe, presuming Zoat didn't edit that out of his origin.

The universe is just a collection of stories in Destiny's book, whether they end with "And they all live happily ever after" or "Rock falls, everyone dies," every story ends.
 
Klarion was running around Earth while Nabu was stuck on a shelf for 65 years. Being stuck on a shelf does not equal active. So going to have to call bullshit on that theory since it doesn't fit the facts.

And Mordru freaking ran his planet, where was his active lord of order opposition? So that's 0 of 2 planets where a lord of chaos was dependent on a Lord of order being active locally.

What the emissary of Order said was that a lord of order are assigned to counteract a local lord of chaos so if Klarion went bye bye Order would be willing to revisit the necessity of the Dr Fate situation. That's a patrol officer having a beat.

And talk about the end of the universe nothing. Tim Hunter saw Destiny die at the end of the universe, presuming Zoat didn't edit that out of his origin.

The universe is just a collection of stories in Destiny's book, whether they end with "And they all live happily ever after" or "Rock falls, everyone dies," every story ends.
Simple answer: We don't know. We do know that Mordru couldn't return to Earth while Klarion was there, that Shazam stays on the Rock of Eternity while Nabu should be active as Dr Fate and the only other Lords of Order or Chaos that are on Earth aren't making waves (The one Constantine went to during his investigation and Shivering Jemmy later with Eris).

What else would Mordru be talking about when he mentions cosmic balance?

Also, why should Destiny's book having an end mean entropy is legit despite something that creates energy ex nihilo being widespread among the universe? Heck, why wouldn't entropy be orderly in this case, since its ensuring the universe ends at the appropriate time?
 
Because entropy literally means "the decline to disorder."

Disorder is by definition not orderly.

The game between the lords of order and chaos is rigged.

The cycle of the four yuga- Satya, Treta, Dvapara, and finally Kali, then the cycle starts all over again.

Since the lords aren't Hindu, in this case Order ascendant, Chaos makes progress, Chaos makes more progress, and Chaos wins, and then the chess game starts over again.
 
This is what the SI gets for taking the brash rookie on a mission before taking the time to beat the stupid out of him in training. Ragnar is a putz, yes, but it's only if he continues being a putz after being properly trained that it becomes a firing offense.
Eh...I'll have to disagree. In my mind this is still "first Impression" stage, and to me (and I have no idea what Zoat is going to do, so I'm not complaining) this guy has utterly failed already. This is a "I'll be taking my ring back, and you're lucky I don't leave you here." situation to me.

See, there is brash, and then there is singled minded fucking dumb. I know meatheads gonna meathead but christ. Why don't you just bum rush Darksied while you're at it?

Just having a power ring pretty much shoots you up into the top ten strongest people on a planet, and I wouldn't be giving one to someone who acted like a little kid at Disney world the second I turn my back. I wouldn't feel that I should have to TEACH my Lanterns not to do stupid shit. That's like...recruitment rule number one. "Do you know not to do stupid shit? Yes or no?"
 
Ragnar reminds a lot of Canis Minor just replace the desire for art for the goal of becoming a green lantern and less Darkseid worship and more Sinestro worship. But without someone there to act as the role of former superior/family member like Big Barda did for Canis, that leaves Paul trying to teach someone less likely to listen to reason or in the context of the situation why they shouldn't just start killing or starting a fight for no good reason. Especially since they're trying to be covert about their mission.

Though that does make me wonder what would WTR look like if you turned it into a fighting game like the Injustice series or just drop Paul and/or Grayven into that universe as a DLC character and how would they play, and what kind of banter would they have before every fight.
 
Mordru couldn't return to Earth while Klarion is there. Presumably Shazam is similarly prevented from bodily manifesting on Earth while Nabu does. Also the Bleed Fracture introduction included the Atom realising that the Bleed both proves and disproves entropy (while making it irrelevant).
Mordru couldn't get back to Earth because of something Klarion did (Mordru was more powerful and Klarion wanted to be top dog. He couldn't beat Mordru, but he could lock the door after the JSA tossed him out of reality temporarily)

Now *that* brought back memories... most of you are surely too young. ;)
most, but not all. (Nanoo-nanoo!):D
 
Of course Ragnar immediately goes for a top ring match. This guy is either going to turn out to be a legendary badass, the Scrappy Doo (in the "da da da da da Ragnar Power" (charges in) sense) of Orange Lanterns, or both.
I don't know. The guy let his desire for a fight and glory endanger the mission and by extension, his partners. Someone like that? I don't care if he can use the Orange Light without going insane or if he's skilled in combat, as soon as the mission was over, I'd take him back to his planet and tell him he's not worthy of joining the Corp.
 
Though that does make me wonder what would WTR look like if you turned it into a fighting game like the Injustice series or just drop Paul and/or Grayven into that universe as a DLC character and how would they play, and what kind of banter would they have before every fight.
They wouldn't. They'd be the ones sniping the fool in the arena from thirty miles away.
 
I don't know. The guy let his desire for a fight and glory endanger the mission and by extension, his partners. Someone like that? I don't care if he can use the Orange Light without going insane or if he's skilled in combat, as soon as the mission was over, I'd take him back to his planet and tell him he's not worthy of joining the Corp.
"Listen, Jordan, I know you're a Green Lantern and thus tend towards simple but effective constructs, but are you seriously telling me you use the same five or six over and over again? Get some utility or you're going to die, Harold."
 
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