With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

Buggy · Oct 26, 2017

tgojeff said:
Also I'm not entirely certain best snake wouldn't just warp reality to resurect Paul if he died. Considering his soul is made of Orange Light, he may have a backup running in that Honden of Avarice somewhere.

She could, certainly, but I'm not entirely sure she would. Paul's been in a few close shaves, and we haven't seen the Ophidian do anything to intervene in any of them. It might just be because she's following Paul's desires, but she seems rather passive.

IMO Paul really ought to do more stuff with his Big Orange Snake. I mean, I understand the downsides, but he's demonstrated that he can consistently merge and use her powers without issue. The Ophidian might be a bit too eager to assimilate, so probably no merging during combat. But the power to move planets and finesse to manipulate constructs on a planetary scale must be useful at some point.

Cheap Orange Knofe · Oct 26, 2017

Man. Guy just loves to walk into those punches.

fictionfan · Oct 26, 2017

tgojeff said:
Especially considering Controller Tech + Ring control would probably result in a perfectly good human clone turning into an identical body.

Well if they are making a new body anyway I bet Paul would include some improvements. Things that would be problematic for him to modify his body with well he was in it.

BrambleThorn · Oct 26, 2017

AtomicGeneral25 said:
I'm curious, does anyone know what the total word count is in this entire story so far?

Specifically, could someone rate Zoats word count in terms of popular and classic Sci-Fi and Fantasy authors?
Lord of the Ringsing a story is impressive, but only the beginning of the literary measuring contest.
I'd like to know, has he reached a full Asimov yet? That guy was prolific when he was alive.
What fractional Niven had Zoat reached?
Pretty sure he isn't even close to the ever increasing Sanderson, cause that guy obviously sold his soul for a lifetime subscription to Muse Magazine, and probably writes more than Zoat does every day.

Ganurath said:
If it's pre-spaceflight, the establishment likely has access to the best weapons on the planet.

Yeah, what actions a society says are good or evil often favor those at the top. Normally that could mean expensive weapons the upper classes can afford to own and train in, and oops if a peasant gets challenged to a duel and any weapon he knows how to use isn't an 'honorable' weapon suitable for a duel. If that is the case and Lantern are known for their meritorious deeds, I could see Lanterns rings being specifically allowed.
But with modern ordinance, I could also see anything being allowed, since it favors those with deeper pockets.

tgojeff · Oct 26, 2017

Buggy said:
IMO Paul really ought to do more stuff with his Big Orange Snake. I mean, I understand the downsides, but he's demonstrated that he can consistently merge and use her powers without issue. The Ophidian might be a bit too eager to assimilate, so probably no merging during combat. But the power to move planets and finesse to manipulate constructs on a planetary scale must be useful at some point.

Eh, maybe. Best snek seems to enjoy loving vicariously through other people's desires. Considering what happened to Paul, it may have been incapable of actually wanting something spcifically untill they merged.

Also, she basically charged Paul to found a lantern Corp anyway, and most of the stuff he's been doing relates to that.

tgojeff · Oct 26, 2017

BrambleThorn said:
Specifically, could someone rate Zoats word count in terms of popular and classic Sci-Fi and Fantasy authors?

Well, for context the longest (complete) piece of fiction I can think of is Worm which clocks in at about 1.67 million words.

PDV · Oct 26, 2017

tgojeff said:
Now, I do not know what Paul is using as his formal apparel for the job. For lack of an alternative I submit the snazzy 40k comissar uniform (With lantern symbols in appropriate locations)

Commissar

Guy: Paul I know we have had conversations about this... But are you sure you're not a baddie?

Paul: Of course not! Why would you say such a thing.

Guy: Well, you uniform does have skulls on it.

Paul: Huh, shoot.

Guy: Also, is that thing from that game you perfected during your snake charmer freakout?

Paul: Shut up Guy...I thought it looked cool.

Solution: replace the skulls with Orange Lantern sigils. Problem Solved.
except with respect to Abra Kadabra

Buggy · Oct 26, 2017

tgojeff said:
Well, for context the longest (complete) piece of fiction I can think of is Worm which clocks in at about 1.67 million words.

Damn, I didn't realize Zoat had even passed Worm! And no sign of stopping... at this rate, Zoat is seriously gunning for the longest fanfiction ever made. Does Guinness have a record for that?

random_npc · Oct 26, 2017

I just love how the two semi-enlightened beings in the room are bonding via a good-natured pissing match.

tgojeff · Oct 26, 2017

random_npc said:
I just love how the two semi-enlightened beings in the room are bonding via a good-natured pissing match.

Darn, now I want an omake where Ion and the Ophidian have to awkwardly hang out with eachother whenever Paul and Guy get together, like two kids who's parents are friends.

Ion: But Guy Ophi is wierd and slimy

Guy: Now Ion, Ophidian is a snake and not slimy. Also, she is the companion of a good friend of mine and you WILL play nice with her. Do you understand? *Gives Parental stare*

Ion: But Gu...

Guy: DO you understand?

Ion: Fine... *Snorts agrssively from cosmic blowhole*

Blazinghand · Oct 26, 2017

Mr Zoat said:
"Comes with the sash, Paul. I'm the ranking Lantern here, which means I gotta take responsibility." He smiles smugly. "And come to think of it, you should probably call me 'sir'. Y'know, when we've got company."

Absolutely amazing! Guy really knows how to put on a solid joke. It's good to see Paul and a green lantern getting along well.

I wonder what the story behind this orange lantern will be.

finbikkifin · Oct 26, 2017

tgojeff said:
Best snek seems to enjoy loving vicariously through other people's desires.

Does she, now? I assume that'll be going in the QQ thread eventually.

Rafin · Oct 26, 2017

Empiricist2 said:
Even aside from that, "Ophidian's favorite person ever" probably outranks Guy's current position.

Guy did bond with Ion though. And he also uses Green Enlightenment quotation marks.

The Chosen One · Oct 26, 2017

Cheap Orange Knofe said:
Man. Guy just loves to walk into those punches.

That's just who he is; let's not forget the time he walked into a bus, without a ring.

tgojeff said:
Darn, now I want an omake where Ion and the Ophidian have to awkwardly hang out with eachother whenever Paul and Guy get together, like two kids who's parents are friends.

Or, given the way this thread is going, turn it around with the Embodiments as proud moms sniping at each other across the aisle at the PTA bake sale while their kids play action figures in the corner.

"Oh, Guy is in the Green Lantern Honor Guard? So good for him. You know, we couldn't find a Lantern Corps that fit my Paul's particular skill level, so we just started our own! And he's made so many great friends, and in good families, too; he's simply a natural at business networking, wouldn't you say?"

Twilight666 · Oct 26, 2017

Mr Zoat said:
I haven't tried wearing one, but apparently their personalities remain somewhat intact."

Uuuummm... actually:

Mr Zoat said:
Holding up my right arm I phase out to allow his ring to pass through my armour and then phase back in, the ring fitting neatly over my right ring finger. Immediately, flashes of the life of a being I can best describe as being a tentacle elephant appear in my mind. He came to Vega to find a world to settle… A long time ago. Instead, he found Larfleeze. I take hold of the cutlass hilt a moment later.

Two rings again.

He did, and he used it immediately in his fight with the First.

And maybe Hinon made him a new one shortly afterwards but I doubt he would have removed it immediately, so he must have worn it or a few hours at least.

Nero200 · Oct 26, 2017

Twilight666 said:
Uuuummm... actually:

He did, and he used it immediately in his fight with the First.

And maybe Hinon made him a new one shortly afterwards but I doubt he would have removed it immediately, so he must have worn it or a few hours at least.

Didn't he also use a ring made from a guardian for a bit? Or am I misremembering that?

Twilight666 · Oct 26, 2017

Nero200 said:
Didn't he also use a ring made from a guardian for a bit? Or am I misremembering that?

Actually that was the First's ring (which explained why he was so competent in using the Ring, the Guardian gave him pointers).

Paul just realized it was a Guardian when he picked it up and I think @Mr Zoat mentioned back then that OL would give it back to the Controllers because using one of them as a ring might seem disrespectful and might harm future relations with the Controllers.

Edit: I was sorta wrong.
What @Mr Zoat was talking about was downloading the database/information from the ring:

BrambleThorn said:
In fact, why don't you just initiate a data dump into your personal ring, right effing now, before anything dramatically inconvenient can happen. Batch unlock the the entirety of the Malthusan Tech tree, the all of the Guardians Tech tree branching from it except the most recent stuff.

and the response was:

Mr Zoat said:
Because the SI wants to maintain good relations with the Guardians and cutting chunks out of their fallen brother's brain probably isn't a good way to do that. And its not like Hinon knows less than he does; he predates the Green Lantern Corps.

but the same reasoning applies to using the ring, at least for long term use.
And at the point he got it they were just going back to Maltus so it was not necessary to wear it just for the warp home

Massgamer · Oct 26, 2017

Wouldn't Paul basically be his corps version of the GL First Lantern position?

Also neat there is another earthling GL, though curious how her backstory has been altered, and curious if Kyle will ever become a GL himself in this verse.

esotericist · Oct 26, 2017

Avernus said:
Typo:

"effect"

Mr Zoat said:
Thank you, corrected.

I've got this mnemonic I picked up a while back that seems to help some people. I don't know that you in specific need it, Zoat, but I never pass up the opportunity to share it:

Effect an affect that affects the effect you have on others.

effect (verb: to cause or enact), affect (noun: countenance), affect (verb: to impact or alter), effect (noun: result, impact).

Because English.

Yes, I know those aren't strict definitions, but some of the strict definitions, ironically, lack the clarity that synonyms give in this particular format. Particularly when they start using other words in the mnemonic.

ThrawnCA · Oct 26, 2017

Mr Zoat said:
but wouldn't have completed

but he wouldn't have completed

its something

it's something

Mr Zoat said:
wise council

wise counsel

Mr Zoat said:
we among

were among

Mr Zoat said:
Lets see

Let's see

Mr Zoat said:
his reigns

his reins

With one of his accomplices under each arm flies through

With one of his accomplices under each arm he flies through

Mr Zoat said:
getting'

gettin'

Mr Zoat said:
New Years in England

New Year's in England

I though

I thought

that with

than with

Mr Zoat said:
The glass between the platform around the guardroom is

This doesn't look right. Maybe "platform and the guardroom"?

Mr Zoat said:
half way

halfway

no where

nowhere

Mr Zoat said:
shoulda know better

shoulda known better

oligarcal

oligarchical

Mr Zoat said:
put pay to

put paid to

Mr Zoat said:
with at least one empty cell away

at least one empty cell away

Rift120 · Oct 26, 2017

Guy: soooo... which patch commerates being a spiderqueens paramour?

Mr Zoat · Oct 26, 2017

Twilight666 said:
Uuuummm... actually:

He did, and he used it immediately in his fight with the First.

And maybe Hinon made him a new one shortly afterwards but I doubt he would have removed it immediately, so he must have worn it or a few hours at least.

Well caught, amended.

Massgamer said:
Wouldn't Paul basically be his corps version of the GL First Lantern position?

No, because that would make him outrank Dox.

Also neat there is another earthling GL, though curious how her backstory has been altered, and curious if Kyle will ever become a GL himself in this verse.

Probably not, because Kyle lacks the characteristics the seeker protocols look for.

Also: @The Black Knight
Drumming my fingers expectantly.

Massgamer · Oct 26, 2017

Mr Zoat said:
No, because that would make him outrank Dox.

So does that mean that the First Lantern position won't exist at all in the OLC or that if it does it won't be Paul?

Mr Zoat · Oct 26, 2017

Massgamer said:
So does that mean that the First Lantern position won't exist at all in the OLC or that if it does it won't be Paul?

In the Green Lantern Corps, the position of First Lantern isn't always occupied. It's used to give a field commander exceptional authority during a major crisis. At the moment the Orange Lantern Corps doesn't have enough established norms for it ot be necessary to give someone special authority to ignore them.

LazySloth13 · Oct 26, 2017

I can't help but remember how early in the fic when Paul contacted Mephdyll who had assumed one of the previous green lanterns of the sector must of died and Paul was the newest recruit only to learn he's the fourth lantern from earth, not counting Alan or Star Sapphire, and now there's a fifth human lantern from earth/sector 2184. I bet Salaak is probably annoyed of the possibility of even more human shenanigans, with the other lanterns wondering how many lanterns does a supposedly backwater sector need or how it keeps attracting so many rings.

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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