RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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- Australia
There's a simple solution for that. He could simply remove his nervous system, and then it couldn't control him.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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- Hampden Park
Energy-based mental systems can be manipulated as well, as the SI's party demonstrated with Nabu.
At this point I would put a quantum encryption of neural signals so that nothing could exert mental influence without being detected.
Also, couldn't Paul use his lantern powers to do counter brainwashing? Mentally influence himself to repair the mental influence.
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- U.S.
I had the idea that he could tell the ring to simulate his brain and feed it the same inputs as his real brain, and then have the ring overwrite any changes from the simulated state. This assumes a few things, eg you can somewhat-deterministically simulate a brain, but you can work around these. Suddenly losing ring power wouldn't be a huge issue because your brain is still there, and the ring isn't actively supporting it as it does during acceleration.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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- Australia
I suppose his tattoos couldn't be altered further to prevent mystical control of his mind?
- Location
- Somewhere out there
His tattoos already are fairly good proof against mystical control, I would imagine. Kinda hard to target someone if you can't see them.
However, Black Mercies aren't quite "mystical" control. As Mr Zoat said, they interface directly with the nervous system -- sort of like that cordyceps fungus that infests ants. Arcane wards aren't going to protect you against having your neurotransmitters screwed with.
However, Black Mercies aren't quite "mystical" control. As Mr Zoat said, they interface directly with the nervous system -- sort of like that cordyceps fungus that infests ants. Arcane wards aren't going to protect you against having your neurotransmitters screwed with.
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- Sector 2814
Well, there goes that theory for "pre-arranged means of escaping the lotus eater."
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- florida
Hey Zoat is that Cupid path still going? I ask because I don't remember where you posted it. Also lotus machine? well I guess paul was due another mind trip. and to think he started this all voluntarily. constantine hallucinagins potent stuff.
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- Hampden Park
Good luck thinking with those.
How would the ring reliably tell what was an outside influence? And how would it get power to make a change the wearer didn't specifically want due to UMI?
At this point, no. A different set of tattoos could have been used to make remote control very difficult, but that isn't completely reliable either.
That's on Questionable Questing. I did an update... A few weeks ago, I think? It's not dead, just slow.
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- Earth Prime
This is a little...bait-and-switch in the language. Like Paul is specifically distancing himself from "the Amazons," and then smugly re-associating himself when his conversation partner picks up on the subtle cue.
It might work better with, "You know how most of my people feel about space," or even, "you know how most Amazons feel about space."
The latter would preserve and complement the flow of the next two lines, as it doesn't create distance between Paul and "the Amazons," just differentiates his space-happy nature from most of his people, while still allowing for the misunderstanding without making the assertion of membership feel like a smug "gotcha."
Interesting question: is Ted still alive because he really will be Butteflied into not having the explosion, or is he still alive because there's no reason anybody in the time of the Lotus Eater Machine's real exterior existence would believe he would die by 2016?
Also, curious what Paul's "personal situation" is that makes having kids difficult. I mean, if he's in a polyamorous relationship that includes both sexes...
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- U.S.
I'm not sure exactly how a intimate relationship with 4 people would work. Especially when the four people are a super-strong third kryptonian third human third obscure-reverse-engineered-telepathic-alien hybrid, a shape shifting socially engineered telepathic protean life-form, a former elite assassin with multiple kills and the one of the largest daddy issues in human history, and a empath from another dimension who is the chosen servant of the embodiment/god of an entire emotion and has a wildly alien mindset and a soul made of both literal orange light and selfish desire.
There's probably something that makes having kids difficult in there somewhere. Ophidian help them if they ever have to see a relationship counselor, I'll be amazed if they find one who doesn't start frothing at the mouth when they try to untangle that web.
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- Earth Prime
I'm honestly willing to hand-wave it as "Lotus Eater Magic" for this purpose, which only raises the question higher of, "What prevents him from having kids?"
Science
If you're reading this, omae wa mo shindeiru.
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- Killeen, TX
What wrongness? Io x Ted confirmed! More ships, feed me!
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- U.S.
Maybe it can't handle or simulate strong emotions really well? Especially if it has to make them up out of thin air, since Paul has expressed interest in Kon, M'gann, and Jade before it's easier to copy. But, having seen how strongly Grayven cares for his child(who isn't even his genetic offspring), adding one in to Paul's dream might not be believable.
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- The Outer Plane Of Munchkinry.
Just so i'm clear on this: the different fonts are there to show that the simulation needed to get extra data and change cause/effect consistancy to maintain logical consistancy right?
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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- Squiddy Places
I assumed the font difference was a direct application of mind-affecting influence.
Lazy Coyote
Mind of Military
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- Tennessee
Every time he gets close to breaking free, we see the small text...
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- Italy
well I doubt Kon is fertile without using magic or genetic science to alter things, M'gannis a martian and I don't think she would be able to naturally produce offspring with a human, nevermind a kryptonian/human/genomorph hybrid. the only theoretically fertile pair is OL and Cheshire and maybe she doesn't want children?
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- Hampden Park
Yep, you're right. Modified.
You've have to wait the fifteen or so years it will take me to write that much.
Kon is effectively sterile and M'gann isn't the same species as any other party. Also-
-it's the SI's fantasy and he and I don't like children all that much.
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- Earth Prime
MM can make herself compatible with blood transfusions via shapeshifting; if an author wanted, that could translate to other things. But the most important point is that Paul wouldn't want kids. Odd that it's manifesting as a justification for why he can't have them, rather than as a simple Enlightened understanding that he doesn't want them.
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- Ashtabula
I also can't help but wonder if OL's status as a soulless eldritch abomination from another universe also wouldn't prevent him from breeding with an Earth 16 human. He might look like one of them after all, but he isn't. That's not even taking into account what the Ophidian's heart residing inside of him might do.
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- U.S.
Don't worry, you aren't alone on that front.
Don't worry, you'll get to it. After all, you're going to be here, writing for us. Forever.
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- Hampden Park
Without the soul he had added on he would have difficulty is siring children and there would be a high rate of miscarriage and congenital deformity. Assuming they got through all of that they would essentially be normal Humans.
stormturmoil
CALChemist
There's also the problem that if OL closes his mind too much he stops being OL, because the Ring Stops working because it can't read instructions anymore.
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