- Location
- Hampden Park
No, sorry, can't find another recording of Static saying it.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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zhuull
SB still lying to protect Racists what else is new
I think this may be my favorite part of this update.
Paul has "completely accidentally" shanghaied poor Medphyll into becoming a tutor to his two trainee Lanterns and it was Medphyll's own suggestion!
I wonder what the Gaurdians would think of him poaching one of their Lantern even temporarily in this way?
Only if he's willing to settle for a cheap and simple plant computer. If possible he wants a really advanced version or preferably an actual Dominator computer; and they likely don't sell those at Alien Best Buy. He'll want to look around and see what's available.
MagnumForce
Dead tired.
- Location
- Long-coasty-snowy-land
Makes sense though, don't wanna start engaging the Dominators only to find out that their plant-puters are impossible for Medphyll to get into and manipulate in a reasonable amount of time.
Lubaf
Cat in a washing machine in space?
- Location
- Here
Mildly annoyed, but only at Paul, not at Medphyll. Again, this is how Paul's always presented himself, at least to the Guardians: He's a Deal guy. He'd rather cut Lex Luthor a check, in general, if Lex can be trusted to keep to the result. Maneuvering Medphyll into helping train his apprentices is, at most, going to be taken as Paul implicitly saying to the Guardians "We're not actually competitors; for example, I trust your Lantern enough to help me train mine in certain matters".
That he's trying to loophole his way out is probably a problem, but it's one that can be seen more as "I'm trying to make this deal work" than "I want this".
Thanks
Luc "Side Quest" French
- Location
- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
Yes, it does that when I edit it sometimes.
Thank you, corrected.
Thank you. I'll add it, but I'd much rather had a video clip. It's annoying because I remember Toonami using it as part of the promo.
zhuull
SB still lying to protect Racists what else is new
I think your giving the Gaurdians far to much credit here considering they've actively forbidden their Lanterns from sharing information from their databases with Paul. Not just some kind of "classified" subset of their data but anything, as well as blocking his ring from directly contacting any of their Lanterns.
They seem to be fairly concerned that Paul and the Orange Light could in some way corrupt or compromise their Green Lantern even with the noticable increase in Guy's combat capability from training with Paul. They're only letting him interact with Green Lantern in groups where they can watch for "treachery" and only letting him pass in information on how to combat Orange Light while offering little to nothing in repayment beyond letting Paul continue existing, which admittedly from their perspective is probably pretty magnanimous on their parts.
Janusi
Intermittent Author
- Location
- Wobble, Capital of Mars
I think this is a typo.
But another great chapter, looking forward to what comes next.
- Location
- texas
Or bullets, or knives, or pointy sticks, or paper, for lo the dreaded paper cut is the true nemesis of the New Gods.
Well maybe Zoat gave them protection from paper cuts here, but word of Zoat is that he didn't give them bulletproof skin- Intergang would have defeated the Forever People with regular guns, and they would have been hurt worse.
The chain-trade quest continues.
Blackfire demonstrates a complete lack of diplomacy and respect.
Nice to see her sister is still a Lantern though. Was somewhat worried she would ditch after the last incident.
So either Paul is lying his arse off or he thinks that he himself is a horrible example of how Lanterns should behave.
- Location
- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
- Location
- Elsewhere
Medphyll: "I want..... A SHRUBBERY!!!!"
Paul: "A what?"
Medphyll: "Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!"
Paul: "No! No! Please, please, no more! I will find you a shrubbery."
Medphyll: "You must return here with a shrubbery... While you search, I will take your Orange Lanterns on a tour of my Sector."
Paul: "O Medphyll, you are just and fair, and I will return with a shrubbery."
Medphyll: "One that looks nice."
Paul: "Of course!"
Medphyll: "And not too expensive."
Paul: "Yes!"
Medphyll: "Noowwwww... GO! I must teach those two girls the sacred words Ni, Ping, and Nee-womm!"
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sainen
Elder Lich
not necessarily, OL could just feel that Medphyll is a better example than he is, in turn that doesn't mean that he has to feel that he's a horrible example of how Lanterns should be have, just that the green plantern is better than he is.
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
I think Mr Zoat's version of New God empowerment is of the 'remove your upper limits' variety, so you could become immune to bullets, but would not start out that way if you weren't already (so Dannering first, then New Goding). Judging by what we see in Grayven's sections, it makes you more you, as in Wally losing his huge appetite (that he desperately wanted to be rid of), as well as getting that much faster, or Zatanna's magic improving by leaps and bounds.
spencer1519
(Verified Heretic)
- Location
- Oregon, USA
I don't know if you just missed a substitution or if it was intentional, but I find the idea that somehow Paul has roped King Arthur into this quest highly amusing.
"The legends said I would return in Britain's time of need, and you clearly need my help."
"I'm not sure you've got what it takes to be a proper orange lantern. What do you want?"
"I seek the Grail!"
Alternatively:
"What is your name?"
"Arthur! King of the Britains."
"What is your quest?"
"I seek the Grail!"
"What is your favorite color?"
"Is that a trick question?"
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stormturmoil
CALChemist
So...the Antarean Warlords
...and Khanjar Ro
...and an Attempt to Abduct the Justice League to defeat the Other Worlds.
...is this by any chance inspired by the old Justice League Tie in Comics?
Another point of Divergence for Earth 16 from Earth 12 if so.
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- Hampden Park
Less 'inspired', more 'lifted wholesale'.
- Location
- Australia
I'm only sorry that I can give but a single Funny rating.
Headhunted (part 4)
- Location
- Hampden Park
2nd August
11:34 GMT
Commander Andar looks up from his lectern-mounted computer with a smile as his equerry shows me into his office. "Orange Lantern. Or should I say, Orange Lantern Two Eight One Four?"
"It's a bit of a mouthful."
Perhaps due to how their wings would get in the way, Thanagarians aren't all that big on chairs. I remember that Mister Hol's laboratory on the Watchtower was largely designed at a convenient height for someone standing. Commander Andar's office has a small cluster of what are clearly Tamaranian seats (the clue is the higher backs) but Thanagarian meetings are generally conducted standing, the participants looking one another directly in the face. It's not quite the aggressive gesture it is for Humans, but it's still mildly confrontational.
"Properly speaking, the correct way to address a Lantern is formally, using Lantern as their title or name-prefix."
He frowns. "Do you have some superstition about giving people your name?"
"My world is thaumically active. It isn't a superstition if they actually can curse you if they have your true name." I shake my head. "But no. I have -by mechanisms which defy my analysis- been rendered incapable of saying my own name."
His eyes narrow slightly, unsure whether I'm making some sort of incomprehensible alien joke. I take a name card out of subspace and-. He won't understand English. Ah, ring, best fit that word I can't think too loudly to Plekesh grammatical rules, then rewrite.
Compliance.
He takes a moment to read it. "Lantern Pol?"
"Close enough. It's my personal name, but the closest I've been able to get to my surname is 'candle dipper'. And I'm.. not prepared to take that step yet."
He hesitates again, but appears to decide to just go with it. "What can I do for you?"
"Having any trouble with the new equipment?"
"No, not at all. The industrial asteroid smelters should enable us to finish getting the Hawk's Nest up to specification in a few weeks. Upgrades to the battleship Assailant will take a few weeks longer, even with a space dock specifically designed for it. The second ship will take over a local year to complete, assuming the Tamaranians don't want us to scrap it for one of their own design. The next bottleneck will be the lack of trained personnel, and I doubt that there's much you can do to help with that."
Since they don't have to pay a tithe to the Gordanians any longer Tamaran can well afford the Thanagarians' presence. But they probably couldn't afford to pay a significant number of skilled alien workers, and by the time that situation changes enough of their own people should have completed training that they won't need them. I could hire people myself, but the aim of the exercise is an independent Tamaran, not a dependent one. I'm certainly not willing to assimilate or brand people because it would be useful. And… They're not likely to get hard pressed anytime soon…
"King Myand'r told me what happened with the Citadelians you had working for you." I nod. "I know it's not easy, killing people you fought beside. But unless you were prepared to maintain control of their minds permanently it's probably the best result you could have got. Do you know how many survived?"
"Eleven."
"Citadelians being what they are, it was probably inevitable."
"I.. appreciate you saying that." I suppose that it shouldn't have surprised me. I had thought that a few of the augmented ones at least might have the sense… But I can't say it particularly bothers me. If they can't overcome their programming then there wasn't anything between them and the half-million or so we killed destroying the fleet. "But the reason I'm here, is that I'm heading to Alstair next and I'm sort of hoping that you could write me a letter of introduction, or… Whatever the normal diplomatic practice on Alstair is. I've already offered to take any messages you have to relay, but if you've got anything that can't go via Thanagar I can take that as well."
"Why are you going to Alstair?"
"A Green Lantern I'm working with wants to look at some examples of alien plant-based technology. We don't.. use that sort of thing much on Earth, and since I already know people from Alstair it seemed like the sensible option."
"What exactly is this Green Lantern planning on doing with it?"
"He has a natural ability to manipulate plant life, and we want to make sure it works on advanced alien plantforms before we go after the Dominators."
"Does he do that with his power ring or by magic?"
"I think his ring helps, but it's mostly by magic." Commander Andar relaxes slightly. "Why?"
"The last Green Lantern to intervene in Antares system gave up after being fired upon by all four navies. For a moment I was concerned that they were planning a more forceful intervention. That, and the fact that Alstair's native population use similar techniques themselves. I doubt that he'll learn to do anything that they can't defend themselves against."
Worth knowing. Maybe someone there will want to compare notes? "Heck, after Kanjar Ro went after the Justice League, it wouldn't be Alstair I'd be helping them go after. Not that I'm planning any sort of intervention unless there's a really good opportunity."
"I think that would be for the best. With Kanjar Ro deposed, the war died back a little. I'd prefer it not to pick up again."
I nod. "How exactly did Queen Hyathis come into contact with Thanagar? I've only read the Green Lantern Corps' summary on the subject."
"I'm afraid that with all of the data purges carried out by the Lord High Equaliser there's little I can tell you about his arrival. Even today, all we really know about him is that he was a male Polaran. We don't even know his name, though since his remains showed the same signs of infection as the Thanagarian population it's possible that he didn't know himself."
"And the Lizarkons?"
"They were infected too. And since you're about to ask, I am aware of the flaws which Thanagarian society has developed since then. My forebears left with Hyathis. The.. apartheid happened after that."
"I wouldn't blame a single individual for the wrongs of their entire civilisation anyway."
He nods. "Before the Equalisation Plague, we were a technologically sophisticated and.. somewhat isolationist civilisation. During it, we were… Meat robots, doing whatever we were told. The Lord High Equaliser was in complete control of everything, no one could even think differently from anyone else. And whatever his priorities were, they didn't include… Childcare, education, leisure pursuits or anything beyond utilitarian efficiency. Ships from Alstair regularly explore space, looking for technology to purchase or allies who might be persuaded to aid them against their enemies. When they found Thanagar, they reported the state of affairs to Queen Hyathis who decided to visit in person. She led the strike force which killed the Lord High Equaliser, then offered to cure the plague. In return, the Lord High Equaliser's immediate subordinates agreed to recognise her as Empress."
"Before she cured them?"
"No, she cured them first as a demonstration." He shuffles his wings slightly. "Anyway, that was where the Loyalists like me and the Nationalists like those who rule Thanagar today disagree. They say that she extorted an oath of fidelity under duress from people who didn't have the power to give it on behalf of the rest of our civilisation. I say, she killed a tyrant and cured our civilisation of a disease that stripped us of our personhood. And she never treated us in a way that was dishonourable; we were equal before the law to the citizens of her homeworld."
"How did she get deposed?"
"People were getting used to individuality again. Most of them remembered a time before the Plague, but it made everything so confused that it was hard to adapt. Having been attacked by an alien and then expected to follow the orders of another… There were a lot of people who didn't like it." I nod. Stupid, but people are people wherever you go. "So, six years later when Queen Hyathis took a fleet filled full of her most loyal officers and soldiers back to the Antares system... They carried out a coup. Every Zaredian left on Thanagar was brutally murdered and the remaining fleet and planetary defence network was seized by the Nationalists. The government that came to power then is effectively the same one that rules now."
"And Thanagar's tendency towards expansionism?"
"Their slogan is 'Never Again'. I don't know what the Queen would do next if she actually managed to conquer Antares, but that's a four way fight between evenly matched factions. There isn't anywhere near Thanagar that's actually a threat to them, so the level of aggression they're showing is completely unwarranted. My greatest worry is that they're going to go after Antares eventually."
"Or Earth."
He nods, then turns away. "I'll draft you that official introduction."
11:34 GMT
Commander Andar looks up from his lectern-mounted computer with a smile as his equerry shows me into his office. "Orange Lantern. Or should I say, Orange Lantern Two Eight One Four?"
"It's a bit of a mouthful."
Perhaps due to how their wings would get in the way, Thanagarians aren't all that big on chairs. I remember that Mister Hol's laboratory on the Watchtower was largely designed at a convenient height for someone standing. Commander Andar's office has a small cluster of what are clearly Tamaranian seats (the clue is the higher backs) but Thanagarian meetings are generally conducted standing, the participants looking one another directly in the face. It's not quite the aggressive gesture it is for Humans, but it's still mildly confrontational.
"Properly speaking, the correct way to address a Lantern is formally, using Lantern as their title or name-prefix."
He frowns. "Do you have some superstition about giving people your name?"
"My world is thaumically active. It isn't a superstition if they actually can curse you if they have your true name." I shake my head. "But no. I have -by mechanisms which defy my analysis- been rendered incapable of saying my own name."
His eyes narrow slightly, unsure whether I'm making some sort of incomprehensible alien joke. I take a name card out of subspace and-. He won't understand English. Ah, ring, best fit that word I can't think too loudly to Plekesh grammatical rules, then rewrite.
Compliance.
He takes a moment to read it. "Lantern Pol?"
"Close enough. It's my personal name, but the closest I've been able to get to my surname is 'candle dipper'. And I'm.. not prepared to take that step yet."
He hesitates again, but appears to decide to just go with it. "What can I do for you?"
"Having any trouble with the new equipment?"
"No, not at all. The industrial asteroid smelters should enable us to finish getting the Hawk's Nest up to specification in a few weeks. Upgrades to the battleship Assailant will take a few weeks longer, even with a space dock specifically designed for it. The second ship will take over a local year to complete, assuming the Tamaranians don't want us to scrap it for one of their own design. The next bottleneck will be the lack of trained personnel, and I doubt that there's much you can do to help with that."
Since they don't have to pay a tithe to the Gordanians any longer Tamaran can well afford the Thanagarians' presence. But they probably couldn't afford to pay a significant number of skilled alien workers, and by the time that situation changes enough of their own people should have completed training that they won't need them. I could hire people myself, but the aim of the exercise is an independent Tamaran, not a dependent one. I'm certainly not willing to assimilate or brand people because it would be useful. And… They're not likely to get hard pressed anytime soon…
"King Myand'r told me what happened with the Citadelians you had working for you." I nod. "I know it's not easy, killing people you fought beside. But unless you were prepared to maintain control of their minds permanently it's probably the best result you could have got. Do you know how many survived?"
"Eleven."
"Citadelians being what they are, it was probably inevitable."
"I.. appreciate you saying that." I suppose that it shouldn't have surprised me. I had thought that a few of the augmented ones at least might have the sense… But I can't say it particularly bothers me. If they can't overcome their programming then there wasn't anything between them and the half-million or so we killed destroying the fleet. "But the reason I'm here, is that I'm heading to Alstair next and I'm sort of hoping that you could write me a letter of introduction, or… Whatever the normal diplomatic practice on Alstair is. I've already offered to take any messages you have to relay, but if you've got anything that can't go via Thanagar I can take that as well."
"Why are you going to Alstair?"
"A Green Lantern I'm working with wants to look at some examples of alien plant-based technology. We don't.. use that sort of thing much on Earth, and since I already know people from Alstair it seemed like the sensible option."
"What exactly is this Green Lantern planning on doing with it?"
"He has a natural ability to manipulate plant life, and we want to make sure it works on advanced alien plantforms before we go after the Dominators."
"Does he do that with his power ring or by magic?"
"I think his ring helps, but it's mostly by magic." Commander Andar relaxes slightly. "Why?"
"The last Green Lantern to intervene in Antares system gave up after being fired upon by all four navies. For a moment I was concerned that they were planning a more forceful intervention. That, and the fact that Alstair's native population use similar techniques themselves. I doubt that he'll learn to do anything that they can't defend themselves against."
Worth knowing. Maybe someone there will want to compare notes? "Heck, after Kanjar Ro went after the Justice League, it wouldn't be Alstair I'd be helping them go after. Not that I'm planning any sort of intervention unless there's a really good opportunity."
"I think that would be for the best. With Kanjar Ro deposed, the war died back a little. I'd prefer it not to pick up again."
I nod. "How exactly did Queen Hyathis come into contact with Thanagar? I've only read the Green Lantern Corps' summary on the subject."
"I'm afraid that with all of the data purges carried out by the Lord High Equaliser there's little I can tell you about his arrival. Even today, all we really know about him is that he was a male Polaran. We don't even know his name, though since his remains showed the same signs of infection as the Thanagarian population it's possible that he didn't know himself."
"And the Lizarkons?"
"They were infected too. And since you're about to ask, I am aware of the flaws which Thanagarian society has developed since then. My forebears left with Hyathis. The.. apartheid happened after that."
"I wouldn't blame a single individual for the wrongs of their entire civilisation anyway."
He nods. "Before the Equalisation Plague, we were a technologically sophisticated and.. somewhat isolationist civilisation. During it, we were… Meat robots, doing whatever we were told. The Lord High Equaliser was in complete control of everything, no one could even think differently from anyone else. And whatever his priorities were, they didn't include… Childcare, education, leisure pursuits or anything beyond utilitarian efficiency. Ships from Alstair regularly explore space, looking for technology to purchase or allies who might be persuaded to aid them against their enemies. When they found Thanagar, they reported the state of affairs to Queen Hyathis who decided to visit in person. She led the strike force which killed the Lord High Equaliser, then offered to cure the plague. In return, the Lord High Equaliser's immediate subordinates agreed to recognise her as Empress."
"Before she cured them?"
"No, she cured them first as a demonstration." He shuffles his wings slightly. "Anyway, that was where the Loyalists like me and the Nationalists like those who rule Thanagar today disagree. They say that she extorted an oath of fidelity under duress from people who didn't have the power to give it on behalf of the rest of our civilisation. I say, she killed a tyrant and cured our civilisation of a disease that stripped us of our personhood. And she never treated us in a way that was dishonourable; we were equal before the law to the citizens of her homeworld."
"How did she get deposed?"
"People were getting used to individuality again. Most of them remembered a time before the Plague, but it made everything so confused that it was hard to adapt. Having been attacked by an alien and then expected to follow the orders of another… There were a lot of people who didn't like it." I nod. Stupid, but people are people wherever you go. "So, six years later when Queen Hyathis took a fleet filled full of her most loyal officers and soldiers back to the Antares system... They carried out a coup. Every Zaredian left on Thanagar was brutally murdered and the remaining fleet and planetary defence network was seized by the Nationalists. The government that came to power then is effectively the same one that rules now."
"And Thanagar's tendency towards expansionism?"
"Their slogan is 'Never Again'. I don't know what the Queen would do next if she actually managed to conquer Antares, but that's a four way fight between evenly matched factions. There isn't anywhere near Thanagar that's actually a threat to them, so the level of aggression they're showing is completely unwarranted. My greatest worry is that they're going to go after Antares eventually."
"Or Earth."
He nods, then turns away. "I'll draft you that official introduction."
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- Australia
too
beside
then
recognise
who -> would ??
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
- Location
- The Future
Don't you mean Tamaraneans?
Arafell
Verified Cephalon
- Location
- Oregon
Candle. . . dipper? Wickman, maybe?
No idea, though 'candle dipper' sounds hilarious when used as an insult.
- Location
- Australia
"That man's a real candle dipper, ain't he?"
Paul Candler, I suspect.
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