Hmm. If the SI had a weaker self-image as a definite human, I wonder how long it would take to transition into the cave, filament-grab and subspace all the rings and transition back out - and then when he next gets a few free minutes, "Ring, make me into a Martian and upload Mr J'aarkn's knowledge base into my brain," followed by tentacles, tentacles everywhere... and then tentacles neatly tucked away inside a Paul-shaped human-looking body with built-in flight, intangibility, shapeshifting, super-strength... and equipped with 500 power rings.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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NemiTheNen
Perpetual Phone Poster
But he still has a lot of technical information, like beam singularities.
Orange Enlightenment, Ho!
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Then it all goes terribly wrong and Paul kills himself by trying to change THAT much of himself. Also, J'aarkn gave his notes to M'gann, not Paul. Thirdly, OL kinda freaked when Jade said that she had changed her brain a bit...you really think he's up to changing his entire being? Honest, I don't even think the ring could, data wise, unless maybe Paul wanted that more then anything else in the world. Plus, the only thing that it would give him, that he can't have now, is Shapeshifting.
Alan Scott's daughter Jade isn't a thing right? I think Engineer only popped into DC during the New 52. Are Duplicate girl and Matter-Eater Lad based far into the future? I can't remember. Grace Chio perhaps? How about David Kim? AKA Xombi? He's into Nanotech, I think Paul would like to recruit the science types.
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Xavier Bronze
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Not worried about that. Paul's smarter than that. Anything you keep a Ring on is a target for your enemies to cut off.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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What does he want?
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Huh, I didn't know mental attacks were in the Citadelian repertoire - granted, I know almost nothing of them. Are they all psychic, or just the First? Because he seemed to be aided by the rest that time.
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Well.. he could free his kind as he could view them all as being slave to the reach. He could bond with a host, if not just create one.
Oh! And Ted Cord is busy.
There is probably more but i haven't read much BB.
Y'know, I've been thinking more about how an oprange lantern Corps would actually function, and the more I think of it, central control, while needed is actually a really bad way to run it.
They would need different levels of rank within a sector or a handful of sectors, someone who gets to know the others and can keep up with the goings on in their lives. This may sound wierd, but if an Orange Lantern has for example, a child on the way and orders come from up on high that he needs to get his ass over to sector blah blah to reinforce it...
Is that Lantern actually a good choice right then? He wouldn't want to be there, so you're essentially throwing a weakened soldier at the enemy/problem. This would... well, it's wastefull.
Instead their should be 'local' leaders who'se job it is to advise the higher ups Which lanterns are best suited to doing what at that point, or make the decision themselves when the higher ups order that area to send so and so reinforcements.
They would need different levels of rank within a sector or a handful of sectors, someone who gets to know the others and can keep up with the goings on in their lives. This may sound wierd, but if an Orange Lantern has for example, a child on the way and orders come from up on high that he needs to get his ass over to sector blah blah to reinforce it...
Is that Lantern actually a good choice right then? He wouldn't want to be there, so you're essentially throwing a weakened soldier at the enemy/problem. This would... well, it's wastefull.
Instead their should be 'local' leaders who'se job it is to advise the higher ups Which lanterns are best suited to doing what at that point, or make the decision themselves when the higher ups order that area to send so and so reinforcements.
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None of them are. He was attempting to manipulate the SI's desires with his ring. Against a starter character that might have worked. Against an enlightened character it's barely a distraction.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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I honestly dunno how I feel about rings just being able to manipulate their domain in such a raw way. Can Green Lanterns bend people to their will, or crush their will? It's not that it's overpowered or anything, I feel it might add too many...moving parts.
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In theory, they can learn to. Few do.
Kerrus
Fractal Insanity
The guardians certainly have done that before, so I assume it's one of the higher order abilities that nobody talks about.
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I think
would be better.He didn't call the ring, he grabbed it with a filament. See?
The Legion of Superheroes are based in the 30th Century, so they are only a thousand years away, give or take a few decades.
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Reasonably sensible, but he'd be... About... 9? Thereabouts? At the moment.
At West Point. And with homosexuality no longer prohibited in the US military she'll probably graduate and have a long and productive career. Thanks, not!Obama.
She's a Royal Navy technician at the moment, and the SI has never heard of her.
Wait a second. Black? As in... The other two?
I don't really know H.I.V.E.
How so?
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Yes. But I could have sworn he became Robin, and was killed, during the time skip. There was a statue of him in their tribute hall. Of course it now occurs to me that he DIED DURING THE TIME SKIP. Stupid Maxx.
As an American I must state, with shame, that despite it not being prohibited, both Homosexuals and Women (especially women) are often treated very, very poorly in the military. Sexual assaults against female service members are...common enough that it's a well I don't want to say "problem" and seem like I'm making light but hopefully you understand.
I'd say she's still prime for recruitment. After all....I bet Paul can give her a better offer.
I...honestly have no idea. I just remembered her humming Rule Britannia as she faced certain death. It was...admirable.
Short of the Titans cartoon...neither do I.
I was just tossing out names/characters that haven't been introduced yet. Figured if I threw out enough, one might be useful.
All I got left are Engineer, Grace Chio, and David Kim.
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Engineer isn't on this parallel, Grace.. probably doesn't exist and I don't really see the point of recruiting a Starcraft player.
I'm not using Bana-Mighdall, but I suppose Grace sort of works as a semi-failed Diana clone... Except I don't need more Wonder Women in the story.
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I got just about nothing then.
Tim Drake and Spoiler would be too young. Probably the same with David Cain's girl, the one who can't talk. There is that other Huntress...uh...the mob princess one?
Anarky's too young....The various people who have comprised Firestorm probably wouldn't work. Jaime only got into heroing because of the Scarab bound. Plus he just want's to become a dentist so he can have a good paying job to help his family.
Uh...Healing Match and giving him a power ring would probably be a bit over kill. That being said, Hinon could probably help with that?
There is Stargirl and her dad? S.T.R.I.P.E? I can't remember DX
I think you were just using that weird British humour here, but David Kim is the main character of Xombi. Apologies if you did know who he is and this is just your way of continually refusing to use Xombi in your story.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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Good fight scene. Long enough that it wasn't a complete stomp, but still showed the difference between a real Lantern and someone who happens to have a power ring.
I imagine that if a Lantern is unfit for duty for whatever reason, they should be able to simply take time off. The sector arrangement that the Greenies use makes sense for them, as space cops, but doesn't make sense for the OLC which will be much more like a military. Especially when OLs will be recruited preferentially from Reach held worlds, having a hundred Lanterns each from sectors 1373-1390, then maybe a third of that number from the opposite quarter of the galaxy, naming Lanterns by sector is nonsensical. So asking for time off when you are merely another part of a squad rather than half an area's police force should be easier.
Problem is that the resulting ring is only as intelligent as the thing it's made of. Praexis demons are described as only just barely intelligent enough to speak.
Ring, singular.
One difference is that the First already knew how to fight, just not what specifically a power ring could do. The SI knew what power rings can do, but not how to fight.
It was brought up when he first got Stewart's ring. Although giving a Lantern multiple rings does give them an advantage, it's generally better to have more Lanterns with a single ring each than a few with multiple rings.
He should still block it off. Simply covering the cave entrance should be enough if it's not a well known location. The First could have had additional soldiers that didn't have rings.
The SI's initial thoughts on the subject were along these lines. He wanted a more decentralized model where individual Lanterns reported to an officer, who reported to higher ups.
I imagine that if a Lantern is unfit for duty for whatever reason, they should be able to simply take time off. The sector arrangement that the Greenies use makes sense for them, as space cops, but doesn't make sense for the OLC which will be much more like a military. Especially when OLs will be recruited preferentially from Reach held worlds, having a hundred Lanterns each from sectors 1373-1390, then maybe a third of that number from the opposite quarter of the galaxy, naming Lanterns by sector is nonsensical. So asking for time off when you are merely another part of a squad rather than half an area's police force should be easier.
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I already have a problem with supertech being easily replicable. I'm certainly not going to include cheap uberregeneration and immortality. And I don't know him well enough to write him and just name-checking him feels cheaty.
Thank you, corrected.
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TheLastOne
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So turn them into cyborg Praexis demons, or seek our (or make) a similar demon built to your standards or needs.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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Assimilating demons en masse has come up, and the potential drawbacks are that it might have some negative effect on either the ring that does the assimilation or the orange light as a whole, as well as Satanus putting traps on the demons that activate when assimilation begins. Not unworkable, but probably worth looking into other options first. Also, there may be some minor total extermination wars with Hell when governments really get into the magic business. I can't see many people opposing a world war against the literal embodiment of evil.
That said, it raises the moral question of whether it could be right to bioengineer a species solely for the purpose of turning it into Construct-Lanterns. Nothing as intelligent as a person, but give it lots of senses, telepathy, impulse control so they won't get distracted, things like that. We raise animals solely to be killed, so it's not really that much worse to assimilate an animal that would never get an afterlife anyways.
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