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I'm actually surprised at the bit mentioning that there were only a few hundred Maltusians on Maltus considering that it's their home planet. You'd think that as powerful as they were they would number in the billions at least.
There are twelve Guardians total. Why would there be billions of Maltusian's when there are only 12 Guardians?
 
I'm actually surprised at the bit mentioning that there were only a few hundred Maltusians on Maltus considering that it's their home planet. You'd think that as powerful as they were they would number in the billions at least.
Well it was mentioned that the Maltusians in general broke off into various "clicks" and as an elder race naturally don't seem to breed much (especially when most of their female population is apart of one of said clicks).

Quite frankly the fact there are more Controllers than Guardians is interesting and makes me wonder if that means they are more hands on than them.
 
There are twelve Guardians total. Why would there be billions of Maltusian's when there are only 12 Guardians?

Because Guardians pretty much haven't had contact with females of their own species or pretty much any species barring their space cops when ordering them around for billions of years and that isn't conducive to great population growth?

Wheras the Maltusians on Maltus have had 10 billion years to procreate. Being immortal their losses would over time would be statistical anomalies.

One child every decade would make the Maltusian population at least 1 billion people today, ignoring that the vast majority of the Maltusians from Krona's day should still be around, and that's practically zero population growth.

Which is probably why in the comics Maltus is so overpopulated that they add contraceptives to the water supply. Apparently Maltusians somehow never mastered family planning. :)

So to be so small here, that suggests that the Maltusians really spread far and wide to the four corners of the cosmos.
 
I mean, there are only nine Guardians left and they still managed to send Appa Ali Apsa to spend a couple of weeks just.. driving around America with Lantern Jordan and Mister Queen. There's no way them ignoring me isn't supposed to be sending some sort of message.

I... kinda doubt it happened in this universe, OL.


Well it was mentioned that the Maltusians in general broke off into various "clicks" and as an elder race naturally don't seem to breed much (especially when most of their female population is apart of one of said clicks).

The word you're looking fore is cliques.

Quite frankly the fact there are more Controllers than Guardians is interesting and makes me wonder if that means they are more hands on than them.

While they favor the orange light they are the... least monochromatic of the cliques, I'm guessing. What with missing the central power battery and all that. I hope having a more natural outlook makes them reasonable assholes. As opposite to monomaniacal assholes like the Guardians of Pigheadedness or the Yanderons.
 
I wonder how much the other Maltusians are just civilian know-nothings, and if they are some sort of embassy from the other maltusian factions or something like that.
Is Paul planning to visit the Zamorans at some point?
 
Minor correction, should be "my".
Thank you, corrected.
Is Paul planning to visit the Zamorans at some point?
Yes.
Because Guardians pretty much haven't had contact with females of their own species or pretty much any species barring their space cops when ordering them around for billions of years and that isn't conducive to great population growth?
Oh no, I'm having female Guardians. Sayd, for example.
 
Question: Did we ever get a reference pic for Paul's power armor? In my mind I keep picturing this ungainly, boxey thing and I know that can't be right.
 
As someone who was actually annoyed by OL coddling and actually aiding those groups, I gotta throw out a defense here. There isn't really much right now to show that OL won't up and smash those same groups should they meet again. That his diplomacy was only there in that specific instance, both to keep the population of the planet out of the crossfire, and get his foot in the door. What he did basically laid the groundwork that led him straight to Starfire and Blackfire, and gave him some time to set up Tamaran's defenses without being hounded by the forces he had violently said hello to.

There isn't much to say that he won't dump a can of raid into the very Spider ship he once protected if they don't want to play ball his way. Granted, it does still gall me, what he did. But at the same time...he has achieved a goal or two, and he is perhaps on the cusp of building an army/corps.

The other thing is....I don't think he could trick the Reach like he tricked the others. Given their history with Lanterns and meatpuppet practices. I don't think they would even try to hear him out, more then they would try to lure him in, to kill/steal from.
It's important to remember that Paul is a fairly strict utilitarian, especially when in isolation from friends who might be offended by the application of strict utilitarian ethics. The results of an action are what matter to him (as I understand it), full stop. This leads to him making decisions that would seem OOC to someone who doesn't think like a utilitarian or any other sort of consequentialist, and isn't clear on what goal he's aiming for.
 
Question: Did we ever get a reference pic for Paul's power armor? In my mind I keep picturing this ungainly, boxey thing and I know that can't be right.
At least for the heavy armor version, I've basically been envisioning a Hi-Mock in gray and orange, with different shoulders and smoothed out knees. Probably way wrong, but... yeah, I don't think I've seen a reference image, either.
 
Is the Green Road Trip something that actually happened in universe, or is the SI assuming he's in some sort of composite universe combining all DC timelines? Universe 16 as written by Zoat does have a lot of esoteric comic material in it, but Oliver Queen, Hal Jordan and a Guardian of Oa going on a road trip seems like something that would be pretty well known, and rather too silly.
 
Is the Green Road Trip something that actually happened in universe, or is the SI assuming he's in some sort of composite universe combining all DC timelines? Universe 16 as written by Zoat does have a lot of esoteric comic material in it, but Oliver Queen, Hal Jordan and a Guardian of Oa going on a road trip seems like something that would be pretty well known, and rather too silly.
No, that actually happened in 2005. There was a bit more going on -the Guardians were a bit worried about the Life Entity- but it did happen.
 
Is the Green Road Trip something that actually happened in universe, or is the SI assuming he's in some sort of composite universe combining all DC timelines? Universe 16 as written by Zoat does have a lot of esoteric comic material in it, but Oliver Queen, Hal Jordan and a Guardian of Oa going on a road trip seems like something that would be pretty well known, and rather too silly.
OL basically has DC knowledge, and a lot of it apparently, minus YJ canon, and a lot of the "patterns" have matched up. No word one whether the road trip actually happened. I'm betting no.

Ugh...now I just remembering some of that crap. Anyone else remember that hamfisted scene where the elderly black gentleman chewed Hal out for somehow being an intergalactic cop who hadn't done enough for...black skins as he says.

Reminds me of that really, REALLY stupid scene around the Marvel civil war where some dumb reporter chews out Captain America for not watching enough NASCAR and Youtube so how the hell could he call himself Captain America? After she complained about having to hide in a subway while heroes literally saved her life. She "Resented" having to do it. And....the author SERIOUSLY meant for us the readers to agree with her.

Edit: I have been Ninja-Zoated and was wrong.
 
Reminds me of that really, REALLY stupid scene around the Marvel civil war where some dumb reporter chews out Captain America for not watching enough NASCAR and Youtube so how the hell could he call himself Captain America? After she complained about having to hide in a subway while heroes literally saved her life. She "Resented" having to do it. And....the author SERIOUSLY meant for us the readers to agree with her.
I was not aware of the last part, and I'm not sure if I was aware of the 'hiding in a subway' part, but just the rest of it was incredibly annoying and offensive, and another example of what's been wrong with Marvel the last few years ('Unstoppable Wasp,' at least the bits I've seen, with the lazy art and tumblrina dialogue, is even worse). Fortunately, this fic isn't set in Marvel.
 
I was not aware of the last part, and I'm not sure if I was aware of the 'hiding in a subway' part, but just the rest of it was incredibly annoying and offensive, and another example of what's been wrong with Marvel the last few years ('Unstoppable Wasp,' at least the bits I've seen, with the lazy art and tumblrina dialogue, is even worse). Fortunately, this fic isn't set in Marvel.
I can't figure out how to post pictures on this thing so... This stupid bint, Sally Floyd
 
I can't figure out how to post pictures on this thing so... This stupid bint, Sally Floyd

The thing with Captain America is, and always has been, that he's more American than America itself. He doesn't represent the average American people, in any way. He represents the American ideal.

So yes. That's extremely stupid. She could have made an interesting point (who exactly do you fight for if you don't represent the people?). But she decided to rely on No True American by spouting brand names at him.
 
Unfortunately, even in canon it was never really explained what the League's plans/reasoning for Nabu was. All we know is after the 5 year time skip, he was still on Mr Zatarra's head full time.
Then again there was also the 'wait 5 years to put the League of trial for their mind-controlled actions' plot line that didn't make much sense either.
It hadn't even occurred to me to think what parts of this were canon, except for the parts that the narrator calls out. I really hadn't thought about it.

So until a better explanation shows up it's still kind of dumb. But, being fanfiction, it's not a mark against the author when canon is the source of the kind of dumb.

I do hope the author had some kind of reasonable reveal and exposition planned, though.
 
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The thing with Captain America is, and always has been, that he's more American than America itself. He doesn't represent the average American people, in any way. He represents the American ideal.

So yes. That's extremely stupid. She could have made an interesting point (who exactly do you fight for if you don't represent the people?). But she decided to rely on No True American by spouting brand names at him.
I know that, you know that, but apparently Captain America did not. As he just sat there and hung his head in shame. I'd really like to sit down with the author who wrote that, and who actually expected us to agree with the reporter, and ask but one question. "Dude...what the fuck?"
 
The remaining ventral weapons cut out as the ship starts to climb away from the combat zone. I drop my shield dome and take in my opponents. "Captain Marvel. Nightwing. Supergirl. Flash. Green Lantern. Mister Miracle. Big Barda." I got all of them! Wooooo! "You know what? This is fine, this is good. You must be just about the best this world has to offer. Once I grind you to paste… They'll know there's no one left who can stop me." I nod to myself. "Yes, this is what I want; all of you against all of me."

Miss Harmon looks slightly puzzled. "There's only one of you."

"Mmm." I nod. "Drone squadrons one through seventeen, attack if you please."

Drones drop stealth above and around me as orange blaster bolts and purple death rays strike at the superheroes. Kyle generates a barrier, Kara and Marvel fly upwards to evade and Nightwing dives for cover. "I've got a President to kill."

This fic started on August 14th, 2013. Presumably SI departed Earth Prime around then, give or take a few weeks. By the quoted chapter, Renegade had lived up to February of 2011 on Earth 16, and then had traveled to January of 2004 on Earth 50. On Earth Prime, Avengers: Age of Ultron was first released in the United Kingdom on April 23rd, 2015.

So, on which Earth did Avengers: Age of Ultron release 2-11 years earlier that Renegade would have been able to see it to make that reference? Or is it just a coincidence, in-universe, and he thought of it himself?

(I'm of course just poking fun at a very minor and entirely unimportant oversight. I wouldn't ever ask Zoat to double check that every last joke and reference makes completely perfect sense.)​
 
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