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I think he wants Larfleeze to send all his Construct Lanterns, so Paul can go to Larfleeze whilst he's all alone.
Killing everyone in the system except the Tamaraneans is a side-effect.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Killing everyone in the system except the Tamaraneans is a side-effect.
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You're referring to FLT again, Mr Zoat. Jam FLT. A risky sandwich, but it could work.
Orbital
Cyberpsycho
Well. That escalated more quickly than I expected.
FTL
This is dialogue from Larfleeze, right? It's missing quote marks.
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Nah, he's going to backdoor him. Larfleeze sends his army to find him and kill him, and then Paul shows up, in ur base killing ur doodz.
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Krazyfan1
Worrying for the future.
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Edited, but
The Bushranger
In the Danger Zone
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I'm pretty sure the key is here:
The beam was absorbed by the Lantern as it hit Paul's filament constructs.
So, each of Larfleeze's constructs that hit Paul's filament constructs...
The beam was absorbed by the Lantern as it hit Paul's filament constructs.
So, each of Larfleeze's constructs that hit Paul's filament constructs...
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Speechmarks to indicate Larfleeze.
Also, hypocritical much?
'Oh, I can't allow this sector's distribution of power get unbalanced or chaos will happen!'
'Oh, I can't attack these murderous slavers because some are innocent on some level!'
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'Yeah, lets go unbalance this power group by sentencing the guilty and the uninvolved to a fate worse than death!'
???
One of these things is not like the other...
Orbital
Cyberpsycho
I don't follow. How is he sentencing anyone to a fate worse than death?
Also, I'm pretty sure he is going to take down the slavers, he's just going to try and go non-lethal, since that's not any more difficult than just killing them all, and he's trying to rescue the slaves first.
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He just called down Larfleeze's Construct Lanterns on the whole area, and made sure they can't escape.
Fate worse than death being assimilation, which Larfleeze engages in when he's pissed and wants people to pay - people like all the Citadelians and non-Tamaranian slaves in the area.
And last, its the fact that he switches to completely different tactics that go against every 'rule of engagement' he was supposedly following, without any thought or reasoning as to why.
It's like Batman going 'No, I won't kill this villain!', 'No, I won't kill this villain either!', '*blam!*' - and every villain is in the exact same basic situation, and there's no discernible reason why his attitude is different, nor does Batman in any way act like this was a difficult or unusual decision.
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Thank you, corrected.
Good news! There aren't any non-Tamaranian slaves in the area.
It's a purely military installation rather than a mixed military/civilian one.
I see what you did there.
There is a non-zero chance that Paul will try to take Larfleeze alive.
I mean,canon Larfleeze when he lost his orange ring was terrified of coming into possession of another power ring.
If Paulphidian can turn off his ring, there are good odds that dude won't actually want another. And his canon age makes him an archeological treasure.
Of course, that just makes Larfleeze a massive target for every mad scientist or would-be conqueror about.
Which would necessitate plopping him on Oa or a Malthusian-protected planet.
@Mr Zoat
I have to admit a preference for the Tamaranean ladies getting their canon powers.
Wouldn't even require any change for said powers to have been acquired, but not having activated yet, just like Superman took several years for his powers to manifest, or how the human metagene just pops at a given point of stress for different people.
But you've been writing this for long enough that I'm willing to go with your thinking on the subject.
Though now that I think about it, there are certain similarities between the Tamaranean ladies and the human metagene enhanciles.
And especially with the stories of what X'hal did to her second son.
Hoping OL has raided the computers of all experimental data; want not, waste not and all that....
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Where is that quote from, if you don't mind?
In addition to what the author has said, I'm going to point out that he does seem to intend to divert Larfleez's attention by engaging him once his construct army is headed this way. There is a non-zero chance that chunks of the military here might survive the experience.
And, to be brutally honest , a pointed reminder that there is actually an undying Lantern force out there that can be wielded against major fleet concentrations is likely to incentivize the local military powers to be more....cooperative.
The more so when this power display is deniable.
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If you want to see them get their canon powers, you just have to come up with reasons why they'd volunteer to be experimented on by a Psion rather than do anything else.
Arafell
Verified Cephalon
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Larfleeze vs Psions, who have anti-lantern tech that occasionally works.
Larfleeze wins, he'll lose forces while annihilating the Psions. Psions - well, I doubt they'll win, but they might be able to hold off Larfleeze's army for quite a while.
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Black hole? Unless there's an easy way for lanterns to survive or escape those I don't know about.
Krazyfan1
Worrying for the future.
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What, no-one brought their favourite play-toy with them? Everyone decided their retinue should be mono-species?
Which renders null your previous opinion that all soldiers/supply officers/cooks/janitors (some of these roles will be slaves and/or automated, but not all) are not guilty of the actions of the most prominent or 'evil' members of their race?
Whatever the reasoning, since we the story from the SI's perspective we should see what he thinks and why he thinks that.
Hmm. I assume that the SI can't just tell the ring to do whatever it needs to in order to give them (or other Tamaranians) those powers, knowing it's possible with Psion-tech. And presumably, even if it was possible he'd ask the princesses first.
Come to think of it, if the Garrick formula is alchemical and needs a soul to work, does the SI have a sufficient amount of Earth-16 soul-stuff built up in enough of a suitable shape/structure to work with it? OK, yes, giving him the power of the Flash as well as a pair of orange rings (and an Ophidian-equipped lantern) would be game-breakingly overkill, but seeing as how it would be incredibly useful in-story, there's presumably a reason he didn't chug a give-me-super-speed potion before heading to Vega.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Why would they need to volunteer? If they're test subjects, it doesn't matter if they're willing or not. And the Psions already experimented on them, didn't they? That's why they were there.
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Yes, the SI could just force them to go through with it. That would be somewhat out of character though.
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I think the other poster is talking about the experiments performed before the Orange lantern came around.
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If they'd been empowered already then either they'd have wrecked the facility or they'd be dead.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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They do still seem to be drugged. Maybe the psions just don't realize they have them yet.
(Please note, not trying to get you to change anything, just playing "reasonable response.")
They have already been experimented on.
By two Psions, who may or may not have access to some of the records of what was done to X'hal, and who had fine-tuned their process by working on other Tamaraneans before them.
Yes, Fon and his colleague may not have had the time to run the full battery of tests and experiments that they wanted to, but they have done some, as evidenced by the previous update:
All that it requires is that the full effects come on slowly, unlike the sudden event that was the activation of their powers in canon.
If you're not going for drama, there is no reason why the activation of a set of superpowers has to be a sudden event, rather than something that takes place over weeks or months. Superman took the best part of several decades to acquire his superpowers under a yellow sun.
Hell, given that Fon specifically references a relationship to solar radiation as necessary for the subject, it might just be a requirement for the sisters to get out of the artificial, sunless lab and under an actual yellow/red sun for their process to complete and have their altered biology draw power from the Bleed to power their new abilities.
This is a secure experimental facility that was successfully shielded against Lantern scanning.
Wouldn't the Psions be shielding this place with as many safety measures as they could think to prevent untoward accidents?
They have experience with X'hal after all, and are too cold-blooded to take unnecessary personal risks.
I mean, all the Tamaraneans we've seen in here have been walking, despite flight being a native ability.
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