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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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And here's motherfucking Darksied, sitting in yourhis chair, reading yourhis book, like he owns the place. Because really? He does, while he is there they are his possessions, because there is nothing you can do to take them back, until he deems to give them back. I've been waiting a long time for this moment.

I'd say I called it, but to be perfectly honest I probably didn't. I probably just read it somewhere in one of the old threads when someone else called it.

Whoever you are, you fucking called it.
 
Shortly before this went live, my internet cut out.
Self=Darkseid
As you might imagine, I was frantic to restore connectivity, in anticipation of an update. It got to the point where I used my phone to actually read it.
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As you might imagine, Darkseid's closing statement rang truer for me than was likely intended.
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Lots of hidden text I missed on the phone, as well.
 
Well, what a "surprise". Father box has been reporting back to Darkseid. You know what I find particularly satisfying about this revelation?

Guess who got thread banned earlier, and would almost certainly be gloating to Vega and back about this...
 
Technically renegade is grayven or at least a clone, in DC you are your soul and he had none until he had a replicas of Grayven's made so i think darkseid probably does see him as his son.
 
Darkseid manages to make a friendly visit to his family and giving his son relationship advice something utterly terrifying.

Because he's Darkseid.

That last line was perfect and so wonderfully built up to. Mr Zoat deserves an award for how well he writes sometimes.
 
I am legitimately starting to wonder if Paragon Paul is also Grayven... If all the Pauls are actually Grayven, and the reason there isn't a Paul-50, is because that Grayven didn't throw himself into the Bleed.

It's just that under most circumstances, Grayven never regains his memories, as he intended. And that the Renegade alternate timeline just happens to be the one where he did.
 
varoksa said:
Technically renegade is grayven or at least a clone, in DC you are your soul and he had none until he had a replicas of Grayven's made so i think darkseid probably does see him as his son.
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This goes doubly so if you consider the metaphysical bizarreness of the New Gods in New 52, where they're recursive layers of being in each universe mantling themselves. That is to say, there is Darkseid, but there is also Earth-1 Darkseid who is also Darkseid, and sub-reality Darkseids who are also Darkseid, and so on.
 
The bolding is a nice touch, since you rarely use it elsewhere. Gives Darkseid that otherworldly larger-than-god feel.

I've been mulling over an idea for a while. Joy and sadness aren't in the Spectrum, if you take things at face value. But just like Greed is actually closer to Want, could the "life" of the White Light be more metaphorical than literal? Life being the harmonic culmination of every other emotion, instead of the soulfull existence that makes them possible. And in that case "Death" would be more like emotional death, or Depression, which would match it's depiction here fairly well.

I mean the White Entity and Nekros kind of break that theory, but whatever. It's an interesting notion.
 
Yeah, pretty much saw this sort of thing coming as soon as he started messing with a Father box, and doubly so when he dared to use the name Grayven. That was possibly one of the most bone-headed moves Zoat's SI has done in any of the universes we've been shown, especially since he should _know_ about Darkseid from the start, and about clearly seems to have known about mantling at least on some level. Sure, short term, becoming a new-god looks really shiny, but long term, becoming an Apocolyptian one means you are completely screwed due to encounters like this.

I was curious why he'd even tried it, given that he should have known this would happen, and I haven't really seen a worthwhile justification, so I'm hoping we'll either get one in an upcoming chapter, or some revelation of evidence about how mentally screwed up he'd been when he made the decisions that led to this point, now that we've finally reached it.
 
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I was curious why he'd even tried it, given that he should have known this would happen, and I haven't really seen a worthwhile justification, so I'm hoping we'll either get one in an upcoming chapter, or some revelation of evidence about how mentally screwed up he'd been when he made the decisions that led to this point, now that we've finally reached it.
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When you're high on the Orange Light grabbing the shiny right now and worrying about the consequences later is a natural tendency...OL made a point of meditating pre-enlightenment for good reasons.
 
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So Darkseid became who he is because he was a jilted lover? Got his heart broken?
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Darkseid's mom has Darkseid's friend assassinate Darkseid's wife.
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Thinking on it... if the reason Heggra found out about Suli was because of Kalibek's existence, it's plausible that Darkseid blames him partly for her death the same way that Tywin likely blames Tyrion for Joanna's death.
 
Fantastic piece of writing, @Mr_Zoat.

Really captures that subtly terrifying, unsettling feeling of having Darkseid in your home, with your crying, terrified daughter on his knee, radiating utter dominance and subjugation to his will, and he's being actually fatherly, dispensing advice and telling his 'son' he's proud of what he's accomplished, without the arrogance inherent to so many other villains that he's in all ways better than you.

That's probably the scariest part, actually; he recognises the flaw in making Apokolips entirely in his image, and accepts that he can still grow by observing and learning from others.

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- I put forth this but it's possibly a little too heroic. The haunting notes I can really see getting played while Grayven walks through the door, though.
 
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Sceptic said:
Well, what a "surprise". Father box has been reporting back to Darkseid. You know what I find particularly satisfying about this revelation?

Guess who got thread banned earlier, and would almost certainly be gloating to Vega and back about this...
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eh, they'd probably find a reason to complain about it not being "worst case-ish" enough >.>
i'll freely admit i have a tendency with some of the renegade arcs to tune out till the next main timeline update (most the ones that were "but for want of a nail"-ish retreads of the last paragon arc's conclusion before the timelines REALLY started to butterfly heavily), but i was actually starting to wonder if the guy was a troll or something given how obsessively focused he was on a character he claimed to hate >.>
 
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