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Could still banish him & lock him up somewhere he won't be returning from.

Exactly. Immortality isn't terribly meaningful a description by itself, and mortality in DC isn't much better.

Assuming you can gain the required power, it wouldn't necessarily prevent you binding him and selectively rewriting parts of his mind and soul, enslaving him, cutting him into a thousand still-living pieces and stitching them into the souls of newborns, changing his mind with conversation, giving him a more interesting toy to play with, petrifying him and dropping him in the intergalactic void of another dimension, sticking him in a lotus eater machine, sticking him directly in a hell without passing through being dead, throwing him into something beyond reason - such as the Source Wall, or any number of potential solutions.

Hell, you could just punch him in the face every time he shows up.
 
Wait, he's given extra superpowers to the New Gods? How completely pathetic were they canonically?!?
Usually, their portrayals don't exactly impress.

We don't see much of the Universe 16 New Gods, but... Grayven's description of the Forever Children is pretty accurate.

Then you've got Universe 12, where Parademons can be killed quite readily with police side-arms. Or run down by cars. Not exactly galactic conqueror stuff, and that version of Darkseid was actually attempting military conquest. And where Darkseid could be crippled by covering his eyes when he fires an Omega Beam.

Then there's Injustice: Gods Among Us, where Superman took a full strength hit from Kalibak (whose whole narrative purpose is to be big and strong and threatening) without any effect at all.

Now, I can get away with amping them up because we aren't shown much of them in the Young Justice animated series. But Klarion and Nabu are shown, so have to stay in more or less that general area.
 
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The more I learn, the faster and more precisely I can act. The lower the quantity of collateral damage.

There's something not quite right about this sentence, but I can't work out what that word ought to be. To or Then seem to fit best as a replacement, but I'm not 100% sure. Even then, it seems like it should be a single sentence with the previous one (maybe with a semicolon) , so I'm really unsure if my suggestions are correct.
 
Again, that fits a time loop better than immortality. Especially considering that the universe in question itself has a beginning and end.
or it could be that his death makes his past self exist in the first place. if he's going to die at a pre determined date then that means he can't die before that. i think.
 
There's something not quite right about this sentence, but I can't work out what that word ought to be. To or Then seem to fit best as a replacement, but I'm not 100% sure. Even then, it seems like it should be a single sentence with the previous one (maybe with a semicolon) , so I'm really unsure if my suggestions are correct.
No, that's correct. It might be better grammar to have a comma rather than a full stop, but that was how he said it.
 
Seriously? After all this time? Seriously?

Is no-one going to write the Omake where Superboy goes to the park and calls out, "Bitch, come here bitch!" really?
 
Usually, their portrayals don't exactly impress.

We don't see much of the Universe 16 New Gods, but... Grayven's description of teh Forever Children is pretty accurate.

Then you've got Universe 12, where Parademons can be killed quite readily with police side-arms. Or run down by cars. Not exactly galactic conqueror stuff, and that version of Darkseid was actually attempting military conquest. And where Darkseid could be crippled by covering his eyes when he fires an Omega Beam.

Then there's Injustice: Gods Among Us, where Superman took a full strength hit from Kalibak (whose whole narrative purpose is to be big and strong and threatening) without any effect at all.

Now, I can get away with amping them up because we aren't shown much of them in the Young Justice animated series. But Klarion and Nabu are shown, so have to stay in more or less that general area.

Injustice was a big jerk-off fest on the issue of "Thank God Superman is on our side." despite the fact that there are a number of things that can handle that problem that were either pointedly ignored or 'dealt with' in that miniseries.



And whats this about a Superboy omake?
 
Well, I figured someone would write an omake where Kon had actually named his wolf 'Bitch', like he originally wanted to, and was at the park calling his name out, like Paul was worried he would. It'd make for an amusing three thousand words.
 
...Wait. In that comic page he could copy knowledge. Paul has meta-awareness. He knows of the nature of DC universe. I'm fairly sure that if Paragon got access to that, then, coupled with all other mind-altering stuff Paul has going for him (soul tattoos mucking up Paragon's soul; Orange light affecting Paragon's soul, lack of natural soul affecting Paragon's soul, orange enlightenment affecting Paragon's mind, connection to Ophidian completely screwing Paragon over), it would screw Paragon's mind into a pretzel.
huh, I wonder if OL's anti-scry tattoos would prevent Paragon from copying his abilities/knowledge/whatever. Would really make him a hard counter to Paragon. Sneak up, transition Paragon and himself to Antartica to cut him down to his baseline stats. Boom.
 
"Chester, we weren't acting because we lack the information necessary to create a replacement government. Has anything that happened today-"

"The fook is your-"

"-changed that?"
I like this. Even if Grayven does occasionally go off without being sufficiently prepared, he's still reasonable enough to realize that he's no less prepared now than he was before.
Point is, I realize and understand how Match not being active on OL's side is to prevent character bloat, and for there to be some sort of balance between paragon and renegade sides, but to me, on reread, it still feels like Superman exists in the universe only when he interacts with OL, without any ability to meaningfully affect the universe long-term when not "on scene".
Superman hardly interacted with the team in canon either. And about half of Superman's interaction with the SI was him trying to reconcile the gap between Kon and him.
OL now has access to orichalcum, and the first of the new generation of mythical armors has already been made (for Wonder Woman). With advanced ring-based forging techniques, like cold diffusion welding (ring can apply a lot of pressure) laminated plate armor with thousands of layers (10 micrometer thick gold foil is commercially available, and the ring can make thinner ones with engraved mystical patterns), each with individual enhancement, should be doable. So... I'm wondering when others are getting their armors. I expect the progression to be something like (assuming politics play a role, which they will): Aquaman (king of Atlantis), helmet for Kon, armor for Donna (who is pretty much Diana's sister, which is now a known fact), gloves and boots (I think) for Kaldur, maybe actually swapping inferior Ocean Master's armor to full orichalcum laminate magical armor, then other league members starting with "squishy humans".
OL has said he doesn't want armor he can't maintain for himself. Given how often his armor needs to be repaired, it makes sense why he wouldn't want to use Orichalcum himself. As for everyone, I'd expect them to get their armor after OL has gone off to have space adventures.
Grayven would have more luck with someone either mercenary or at least anti-heroic enough to be a credible bad guy- Like say Enchantress, who is possessed by a demon after all, or maybe Mirabai the tyrant of Sorcerer's World (not a good lady by any means, but I believe she's better than Mordru any day of the week).
Circe has already been mentioned. OL even said she would be a good League candidate if Nabu is acceptably villainous for the League.
Wait, he's given extra superpowers to the New Gods? How completely pathetic were they canonically?!?
The intergalactically feared ruler of the most hostile planet in the galaxy/universe is only barely stronger than a single Kryptonian who in most incarnation has no military training and doesn't carry any non-innate weapons.
huh, I wonder if OL's anti-scry tattoos would prevent Paragon from copying his abilities/knowledge/whatever. Would really make him a hard counter to Paragon. Sneak up, transition Paragon and himself to Antartica to cut him down to his baseline stats. Boom.
During the New Years fight, the Spear of Destiny worked on him because it controlled an area rather than targeting him directly. Kind of doubt his wards would help him here.
And in all these things this administration will be guided by evidence, not by rumour or fear-mongering."
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Mister Doom set down the datapad he was reading from, his mouth turned down in distaste.
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The intergalactically feared ruler of the most hostile planet in the galaxy/universe is only barely stronger than a single Kryptonian who in most incarnation has no military training and doesn't carry any non-innate weapons.

Kryptonians aren't exactly a fair metric to measure against. There's a reason the writers killed most of them off.
 
Superman hardly interacted with the team in canon either. And about half of Superman's interaction with the SI was him trying to reconcile the gap between Kon and him.
Not having watched canon YJ, was the second Kryptonian clone canon and how was it resolved there? Because, as I said, in the story continuity, there should be forces (Lex Luthor doing the research, Kents and Lois applying social pressure, Diana's example) pushing Superman to investigate his database for possible solutions.
OL has said he doesn't want armor he can't maintain for himself. Given how often his armor needs to be repaired, it makes sense why he wouldn't want to use Orichalcum himself. As for everyone, I'd expect them to get their armor after OL has gone off to have space adventures.
That's true for OL, but for others... Well, how long did it take for Wonder Woman's new armor to be made? That should probably be a benchmark.
 
Kryptonians aren't exactly a fair metric to measure against. There's a reason the writers killed most of them off.
I can accept that they're extremely strong. But a single one is as strong as Darkseid? The powerscales just seem off.
Not having watched canon YJ, was the second Kryptonian clone canon and how was it resolved there?
Yep, he was canon. He was put back into his pod similar to the Paragon timeline, although I forget the details.
 
Not having watched canon YJ, was the second Kryptonian clone canon and how was it resolved there? Because, as I said, in the story continuity, there should be forces (Lex Luthor doing the research, Kents and Lois applying social pressure, Diana's example) pushing Superman to investigate his database for possible solutions.
It didn't. Half way through Year Six Bizarro Match broke out of the facility Luthor was holding him in.



The fact that he wasn't treated in canon and wasn't even in a League or neutral facility suggests to me that any treatment would have to come from the SI.
That's true for OL, but for others... Well, how long did it take for Wonder Woman's new armor to be made? That should probably be a benchmark.
I'll stick the hand-over of the Mount Etna forge into the next episode.
Edit: No, I won't. The summer solstice was on the 21st, so it'll have to either be at the end of Titanfall or the beginning of Last Supper.
 
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It didn't. Half way through Year Six Bizarro Match broke out of the facility Luthor was holding him in.



The fact that he wasn't treated in canon and wasn't even in a League or neutral facility suggests to me that any treatment would have to come from the SI.
Interesting. Though some solutions do present themselves to non-SI characters (motivated by SI):
1) Green Lanterns of kryptonian sector should have kryptonian medical data, so they could provide aid as needed. One of the greens could ask them, if only to prove that not only Orange can actually do something
2) Jor El evidently has data required. It's a question of Kal El talking to him.

But ok.
I'll stick the hand-over of the Mount Etna forge into the next episode.
Edit: No, I won't. The summer solstice was on the 21st, so it'll have to either be at the end of Titanfall or the beginning of Last Supper.
Not sure why they would need that. I mean, they were able to make new Wonder Woman's armor without it. I would have thought that other armors would be done in a similar way: Ring-purified and formed metals, Io to do the transmutation into orichalcum, Kord tech + ring if further mechanical manipulation is needed, and Atlantean enchantments for magic. Proof of mortal cooperation rivaling (in some ways) godly artifacts.
 
Not sure why they would need that. I mean, they were able to make new Wonder Woman's armor without it. I would have thought that other armors would be done in a similar way: Ring-purified and formed metals, Io to do the transmutation into orichalcum, Kord tech + ring if further mechanical manipulation is needed, and Atlantean enchantments for magic. Proof of mortal cooperation rivaling (in some ways) godly artifacts.
Because Hephaestus is much better at making arcanomaterials than anyone else the SI knows. It isn't practical at the moment for anyone else to do the work for mass deployment.
 
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