Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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The weather control drones that Ted Kord is developing are exactly that, minus the OL doing it part.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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You may be giving them too much credit, these are the same guys who lead the green lantern corp to a "charge of the light brigade" style massacre against Darkseid's forces (well okay, not actually that bad, but I think the casualties were like 66 to 75%), because of an artificial weakness to the color yellow.
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This is said way too often, but let's say it again: Not necessarily the case in universe 16.
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I thought they were based on the super science used to make red tornado
Empiricist2
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As GodKiller999 said, not the case on Earth 16.
Yes, but it's explicitly magic. Ted even mentioned that it would work far better if they had a mage working the drones, but wanted it to work without anyone doing something like that.
Has Roy just jinxed us all for a Blackest Night? Or an Orangest Night?
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I already know that, and since your memory seems to be failing you- Zoat gave them fear projectors.
And that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China, as the saying goes. That was an example, the fact that specific example happened differently doesn't mean the Guardians have a different attitude that example illuminated.
Guardians abandoned all other emotive forces other than willpower, which means by definition they're incapable of caring if their cannon fodder dies, beyond how it might inconvenience them.
And since the rings fly off and find new hosts immediately, that inconvenience is virtually nonexistent.
Which is why Abn Sur founded the Indigo Tribe as a counter to the Guardians who have no compassion.
Which is why the Zamarons left to form their own society, one that embraces passion.
Guardians are not sane by human standards, everything is a logic puzzle to them, they make Vulcans look warm and fuzzy.
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Oh, god damnit, I just saw what you did there. You monster.
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That wasn't clear at all in your post.
The way I see it, right before Paul got enlightened he could have taken the same path as the Guardians (but with Avarice rather than will).
But instead of being only that, became enlightened:
Lots of people here think OL should work harder to overcome all the scry wards, or prevent people like Lex Luther from flooding the world with them. If I was in OL's situation, I would purposefully support and assist all my enemies in creating more scry wards, and I would do so for the exact same reason that I support end-to-end internet encryption; because I think privacy is a fundamental human right, and that the world is a better place when law enforcement types, even well meaning ones, are unable to gather information without a warrant. And that's not even getting into how this protects the Earth from extra-dimensional threats and hostile enemy lanterns.
I see this as a net win for OL.
I see this as a net win for OL.
daimahou
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The end result which makes power rings unable to navigate around (and on) Earth.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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OL made that shield bracer thing for Kaldur when he was considering wearing ocean master's armor.
It still required magical energy.
Where are you getting the "They can be powered by earth's magical field" thing?
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I'm assuming that was a joke suggestion, but just in case: using magic to alter a power ring without an expert on power rings standing by is a good way to destroy the ring and kill yourself and anyone standing nearby. With an expert, you'll have someone there to tell you not to try.
I don't think it was. There are anti-ward magics that can cause that, but it isn't an automatic side effect.
On the contrary. The SI explicitly can create construct runes. It came up after the Reds attacked the mountain. The thing is, by themselves they don't do very much. The amount of local magic they shape on their own is tiny. What they're mostly used for is a) making it easier of a mage to cast a related spell and b) bind a spell to an object and keep it running.
Scry wards are a huge problem for the SI because the ring's extremely useful standard scan uses a mechanism that is very vulnerable to arcane disruption. Even the tiny amounts which a runic design not touched by a mage shapes is enough. That's it, though. Rings aren't otherwise more vulnerable to magic than anything else, and are less vulnerable to most things.
I don't remember these. I remember the SI bringing up the possibility of using mana mapping satellites so they could replace the zeta tubes with variable end point Dolmen Gates. Is that what you're thinking of?
The Guardian's anti-magic approach is overwhelming firepower, backed by direct Guardian support of necessary. Someone would have to be twisting the universe into a pretzel before it came to that.
Yes, but it's a really inconvenient Human right.
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Ideals often fall in the face of utility. Especially when you yourself don't care much about said ideals. It's a pretty thought though.
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In other words, a more accurate ring slogan would be 'Power Rings Are Actually Finicky & Specialized, And They Kind Of Shit The Bed When Actually Competent People Decide To Oppose Them.'
Especially given that multiple people whose entire powerset is "goes fast" have managed to completely cockblock all manner of ring mummery, from constructs to transitioning. Hell, back at Belle Reve, a guy with the superpower of ~TWIRLING~ was able to fuck up the ring for an appreciable length of time. When the human version of Top Man can inconvenience an experienced ring-slinger, "awesome" no longer becomes an accurate total summation of their capacities.
Especially given that multiple people whose entire powerset is "goes fast" have managed to completely cockblock all manner of ring mummery, from constructs to transitioning. Hell, back at Belle Reve, a guy with the superpower of ~TWIRLING~ was able to fuck up the ring for an appreciable length of time. When the human version of Top Man can inconvenience an experienced ring-slinger, "awesome" no longer becomes an accurate total summation of their capacities.
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Okay, just read the SS rules. Remember when I appealed my warn points because the image I posted didn't meet the dictionary definition of pornography, in that it wasn't 'an image intended to elicit arousal'? Well, the thing I wanted to post in SS eventually would have contained content that had the purpose of eliciting arousal and the rules say that pornography is still not allowed on SS.
So, no-go there, then. Maybe I'll have a look at QQ or something.
So, no-go there, then. Maybe I'll have a look at QQ or something.
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I don't think you get just how nuts earth is. Saying people like the flash go fast is like saying the hulk's power is to be strong, technically accurate but misleading. It's also worth noting the issue isn't really the ring, the issue is the guy using it can't track the target.
as for the Top, as lame as his power sounds, I'd give him good odds against mid-weight new gods.
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Yes, it was a joke...
Why does he need the standard scan mechanisms to find people on Earth though?
As long as there is any unwarded access point the ring can access the internet. And from there just supertech processor it's way through pretty much any digital network security on the planet. At which point his ring should have access to pretty much every camera and microphone on the planet using the systems own hardline and wifi connections. Turn them on in hidden mode and all the Ring needs to do is parse the data for facial and voice print matches for whoever he's looking for.
Once he get's a match he can just FTL to the location grab the person and FTL out.
Empiricist2
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I'm not sure the analogy fully applies though. Scry wards are good at blocking magical scrying and the song's standard scan. If a Lantern wants some information and doesn't care about being detected getting that information, scry wards do jack shit. It inconveniences them, but that's all.
For magical espionage, I agree, scry wards should be implemented wherever avilable, as mages are more common on Earth than Lanterns. Although I do wonder if a mage would be able to make sense of a hard drive's data even ignoring warding.
There are currently only two Lanterns in the galaxy who could be considered hostile to Earth, and if Larfleeze is coming then protecting your financial records is the least of your worries.
Paulphidian warded the mountain by forming scry runes in the walls. No mage required.
Actually, that makes a lot of sense. You could sum up magical runes as "Shape any ambient mana, including Earth's diffuse arcane field." Mages then are just very concentrated sources of mana.
... Yeah, I guess that does work. When you have the option of overwhelming firepower, it's not worth your time to develop specific countermeasures against such a rare phenomenon.
Hardly. Scarab warriors would struggle to beat an individual Lantern, and Scarabs are just about the best human-portable general purpose weapons in the galaxy. One of a ring's basic functions is easily countered by magic, but magic is generally pretty potent.
I just read that fight scene again. The first two attacks didn't work, but that's it. He got through a cage of filaments, which are explicitly not as strong as thicker tethers, and gas didn't work. Donna then broke his hip and OL shocked him and shock crowned him. He mildly incovenienced OL for a few subjective seconds, thats all. When OL was simultaneously defending every hostage in the room, and taking out most of the Kobra cultists, being slightly delayed by a guy with really weird powers is hardly a black mark on his record.
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Not everything is online and not everywhere is monitored. For stuff that is, yes, that's pretty much how it goes.
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Yes, I was assuming that those would have more benefits than just dolmen gates
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Don't forget cellphones.
You would pretty much have to be living in a cave 24/7 to avoid being picked up by a search accessing the video's and mics on those.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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Well, we've seen that, apparently, call traces can also be scry-blocked.
Truggs called and then warded a phone junction box or whatever.
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OL did mention during his speach about technology in the universe that most species never reach the necessary technology to became spacefaring and most get stuck in the medieval ages.
Earth is a insane world by pretty much any standard in the universe and shouldn't be used for comparassions. Neither the technology or superpowers make much sense.
Even the green lanterns thought so when they come to Earth.
Earth is a insane world by pretty much any standard in the universe and shouldn't be used for comparassions. Neither the technology or superpowers make much sense.
Even the green lanterns thought so when they come to Earth.
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