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Mythbusters must be far more exciting in the DC universe. Wallace made a chemical that lets him run at the speed of sound with a high school chemistry set. The amount of crazy things they would need to investigate would make for some really entertaining television.
If Adam-16, Jamie-16, and the Build Team-16 don't have superpowers and mastery of supertech from all their testing by now, it means they probably have some sort of reality-warping or probability-altering superpower.
 
Mythbusters must be far more exciting in the DC universe. Wallace made a chemical that lets him run at the speed of sound with a high school chemistry set. The amount of crazy things they would need to investigate would make for some really entertaining television.
Is it true that you can get superspeed using pickles, broccoli, mercury and titanium?

Huh, yes... Yes it is and we'll be back in 10 with the rest of the season as production suddenly got significantly easier. Besides we weren't sure that society as we know it would still exist next week. Stay tuned to see if it is possible to get super strength from these common household items.
 
"This week, we're testing the myth that the pyramids were built by aliens."

FORTY-FIVE MINUTES, SEVERAL INTERVIEWS, AND WACKY TESTING OF VARIOUS HISTORICAL ALIEN ARTIFACTS LATER

"So, in conclusion, myth BUSTED. As Hawkman attests, and a look at the Thanagarian technology shows, there were aliens in ancient Egypt, but they weren't there at the same time as the pyramids being built, and the builders used purely human-derived techniques and technology." "That's right, the nth metal weaponry is fantastic stuff, and really fun to work with, but they only had stuff viable for demolitions and recreation - transportation and construction were purely Egyptian Human products."

Followed by a revisiting of the myth the next season with Nabu.
 
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If Adam-16, Jamie-16, and the Build Team-16 don't have superpowers and mastery of supertech from all their testing by now, it means they probably have some sort of reality-warping or probability-altering superpower.
In the Undocumented Features stories, Adam is Kryptonian, Jamie is a Jedi Knight, Kari is the same race as Phantom Girl from Legion of Superheroes (natural phasing power), and I believe Tori was supposed to be that reality's equivalent of Ultra Boy (also of the Legion, most of Superman's powers, but only able to use one at a time). Grant didn't have powers, but probably fell into the super-tech slot, I can't recall if it was stated.:)
 
"Myth: Are we alone in the universe? Or is there other life out there?"

"Conclusion: Busted. There are 6 aliens on the League, of five different species. Three League members are casually capable of interstellar travel, and can confirm hundreds more interstellar species."

"How did this question even get on to the show? We answered it in like a minute without even leaving the room."
 
"Myth: Are we alone in the universe? Or is there other life out there?"

"Conclusion: Busted. There are 6 aliens on the League, of five different species. Three League members are casually capable of interstellar travel, and can confirm hundreds more interstellar species."

"How did this question even get on to the show? We answered it in like a minute without even leaving the room."
"Next!"

"Is interdimensional travel possible?"
 
Capitalize 'The' in The Demon Constantine.
Thank you, corrected.
The ring is broken enough as it is in Earth. It would be extremely challenging to write an intelligent speedster who didn't curb stomp almost every opponent, unless the speed had some severe drawbacks.
QFT

Word of Me on the subject is that the SI will never get true super speed. That's a story-ended right there.
 
Word of Me on the subject is that the SI will never get true super speed. That's a story-ended right there.
Hmm. Considering humans are compatible with the Garrick formula, obviously, it would probably be a really good idea to select human candidates for the OLC, then dose them with Garrick formula once they've gotten through basic training. The SI might not be able to take advantage of super speed + power ring, but there's no reason given as of yet that others can't.
 
He's immune. New God unchangeability; his Velocity doses kept lasting a shorter and shorter time until as far as I know it doesn't work at all on him anymore.
That keeps him from using a chemical/potion to achieve super speed, but there could be some other thing to up his speed. Like a localized temporal accelerator or something.
@Mr Zoat how did the Atlantians react to hundreds of surface ships sinking down into their realm during the WW2 Battle for the Atlantic and the German USW?
"Ooh, lots of corrosion resistant high purity steel! It's too bad about the people, but so much metal!"
 
They probably didn't really notice it very much. We're talking about hundreds of ships, scattered across a region bigger than the land surface of the Earth.
Basically. They're used to surface ships sometimes sinking, and the Atlantean population is fairly concentrated in cities. There are huge areas of ocean floor where they're not really aware of things.
 
The ring is broken enough as it is in Earth. It would be extremely challenging to write an intelligent speedster who didn't curb stomp almost every opponent, unless the speed had some severe drawbacks.
Would it be though?

I mean we don't even know if the rings mental interface could even keep up the speed of a true speedsters thoughts.

Add to that that momentum doesn't transfer very well to other objects and the fact that the "Speed Aura" probably doesn't extend very far from a speedsters body. And the limits could be pretty nerfing all on their own.
 
I mean we don't even know if the rings mental interface could even keep up the speed of a true speedsters thoughts.
I realize now that it isn't entirely clear, but I wrote the comment you quoted saying that superspeed alone would be more broken than the ring, at least for fights. Both is just stupid overkill.
Add to that that momentum doesn't transfer very well to other objects and the fact that the "Speed Aura" probably doesn't extend very far from a speedsters body. And the limits could be pretty nerfing all on their own.
Punches still work correct, even if they aren't as strong as they should be? Holding a small knife would make for an incredibly deadly weapon.

Kid Flash ran across the country with essentially a backpack in Cold-hearted. Even assuming that's the maximum limit, there's a lot of short ranged weapons you could pack in there. Throw a flashbang to detonate just in front of someone's face, wrap their body in barbed wire, splash capsaicin in their eyes and mouth, stick explosives in their mouth, etc. That's just with being able to move really fast and carry small amounts of equipment. There's also the other crazy stuff like being able to create localized tornados, doing weird spinning flying attacks, phasing through matter, throwing rocks at super speed, sucking the air out of an area, and all that. Although it helps a lot, momentum isn't a necessary component of super speed being stupid OP.

Edit: Kid Flash, even in this story at this time where everyone is much stronger than they used to be, could near permanently incapacitate every member of the Team sans OL, Canis, and MM with $20 of capsaicin, a solvent, and a squirt bottle. He would have some trouble seriously hurting the more durable ones, but he could keep them writhing on the ground in agony for as long as he doesn't run out of capsaicin or a suitably potent hot sauce.
 
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I'm uncertain that's true. One of the reason blades work in super speed is because there aren't any moving parts. Squirt bottles are notorious for breaking if you try to apply force to them too fast. It'd work better to have ampoules that can be cracked open and splashed in an arc -- and given that KF is an alchemist, I'm PRETTY sure this isn't a problem for him. :p

Also I'm not sure if capsaicin to the eyes would incapacitate Kon.

And Kaldur might be able to water-bend himself some relief.
 
I'm uncertain that's true. One of the reason blades work in super speed is because there aren't any moving parts. Squirt bottles are notorious for breaking if you try to apply force to them too fast. It'd work better to have ampoules that can be cracked open and splashed in an arc -- and given that KF is an alchemist, I'm PRETTY sure this isn't a problem for him. :p
Problem with that is that a Superspeedster shouldn't be able to use a blade in the first place.

They would need superstrength to keep the blade from being ripped out of their hands any time they swung it at anything more then a few hundred miles per hour. They may be able to ignore things like air friction but if their speed aura doesn't extend far from their bodies something like a blade wouldn't. And that would heavily limit their potential actions.
 
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I'm uncertain that's true. One of the reason blades work in super speed is because there aren't any moving parts. Squirt bottles are notorious for breaking if you try to apply force to them too fast. It'd work better to have ampoules that can be cracked open and splashed in an arc -- and given that KF is an alchemist, I'm PRETTY sure this isn't a problem for him. :p

Also I'm not sure if capsaicin to the eyes would incapacitate Kon.

And Kaldur might be able to water-bend himself some relief.
He could just stop in front of them to spray. Doesn't need to happen at super speed.

Kon doesn't have any noted poison resistance.

Water itself doesn't help with capsaicin, and I'm assuming anyone in such incredible pain wouldn't be able to cast any complex spells.
They would need superstrength to keep the blade from being ripped out of their hands any time they swung it at anything more then a few hundred miles per hour.
Why does this not apply to the clothes, armor, or food items KF has on him whenever he runs? He ran just fine with that heart in his backpack in Coldhearted, so I don't see why a small knife would operate under completely different principles.
 
Why does this not apply to the clothes, armor, or food items KF has on him whenever he runs? He ran just fine with that heart in his backpack in Coldhearted, so I don't see why a small knife would operate under completely different principles.
He carried those things on his back, so they would have been in the slipstream created by his body.
 
He carried those things on his back, so they would have been in the slipstream created by his body.
Okay, so he just has to Naruto-run while carrying it and develop a fighting style centered around running past people with a knife out. Or put Batman blades on his arms (shame the Wolverine Claws are platform-exclusive) Or aim for the soft spots at a slightly less super speed.

I'd stick to gases, myself.
 
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As I alluded to a few pages back: Super speed functions like a magical effect. I don't know if it actually IS arcane in nature, but it definitely operates conceptually instead of physically.

You aren't really so much moving your body faster than humanly possible as you are taking it, your clothing, and whatever you're carrying that you choose to bring with you into a different time stream. And "choose" is very much an operative word here, because the ground the speedster is standing on doesn't come along, and only the air necessary for breathing does while the rest of it acts like it isn't even there. The slipstream idea isn't really even necessary, and we've got plenty of examples of speedsters carrying objects in their hands instead of on their backs.

The F=ma violations suggest that, from within this alternate time stream, it's more like the rest of the world is moving really slowly than the speedster is moving really fast. Things like punches and pushes only affect objects in normal time with the same force they would have if the speedster was going normal speed.

If this theory is correct, then a knife wielded by a speedster would only be able to cut through the same things that the speedster could cut through at rest, with the super speed not contributing any benefit to the effectiveness.
 
As I alluded to a few pages back: Super speed functions like a magical effect. I don't know if it actually IS arcane in nature, but it definitely operates conceptually instead of physically.

You aren't really so much moving your body faster than humanly possible as you are taking it, your clothing, and whatever you're carrying that you choose to bring with you into a different time stream. And "choose" is very much an operative word here, because the ground the speedster is standing on doesn't come along, and only the air necessary for breathing does while the rest of it acts like it isn't even there. The slipstream idea isn't really even necessary, and we've got plenty of examples of speedsters carrying objects in their hands instead of on their backs.

The F=ma violations suggest that, from within this alternate time stream, it's more like the rest of the world is moving really slowly than the speedster is moving really fast. Things like punches and pushes only affect objects in normal time with the same force they would have if the speedster was going normal speed.

If this theory is correct, then a knife wielded by a speedster would only be able to cut through the same things that the speedster could cut through at rest, with the super speed not contributing any benefit to the effectiveness.
This is also pretty dang valid, though I didn't think anyone intended the knife's effectiveness to be strictly enhanced by the speed so much as for the speedster's effectiveness to be enhanced by the knife, the same way a non-speedster would be, all else being equal. Incidentally, this setting has other ways to enhance a blade (X-ionization being the gold standard, so to speak) and the benefits would stack.
 
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