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Impulse telling Grayven how his efforts to combat the Reach invasion made everything worse in the long-run would help temper his transhumanist ambitions,
"Huh, so mix lethal nanites in the formula as a remote killswitch?"
"No!"
"How about mass producing anti-speedster weapons and selling them to other countries?"
"Grayven!"
"What about melding a bunch of psychic brains together to create a telepathic weapon with global coverage?"
"Grayven stop!"
"Velocity enhanced mind controlled cheetahs?"
"Ok now you're just screwing with me."
 
It's not that the Speed Force doesn't exist in Earth-16, it's that nobody knows about it.

Eh, that's a slightly biased way to put it. WoG is that Greg doesn't get the Speed Force and considers it a completely unnecessary complication for the setting but "If you want to believe it's there, but they just don't know about it, more power to you."

So, hey, more power to you, but the best you can say that is that there's no proof that the Speed Force (or the Archery Force or Kryptonian Force) doesn't exist, absent whatever Zoat's added.
 
This may be the least dialogue OL has had in a single update in the entire fic. Two lines, eight words in total.
So, hey, more power to you, but the best you can say that is that there's no proof that the Speed Force (or the Archery Force or Kryptonian Force) doesn't exist, absent whatever Zoat's added.
The Danner formula added more force to Artemis' archery, so maybe it counts. And it also added more force to an almost-Kryptonian.
 
Green Lantern came first in the 40's
Specifically, Green Lantern first appeared in All American Comics #16, in July 1940. Triplanetary, the first Lensman novel, was published in 1948. OTOH, the Green Lantern Corps was inspired by both the Golden Age GL ,and the Lensman series, and the Corps was introduced (in a limited fashion) in Showcase #22, in October, 1959, with the Guardians of the Universe (the Arisian/Mentor equivalent) following in July, 1960.
 
So, uh...how exactly did this intruder know that the security system would be down right this moment? Unless it's someone inside the Russian military/government and one of the few people who could possibly have known about this little trip, I can't fathom how.

Plus, how did he even know that the security system would be shut down, as opposed to being programmed to accepting OL and Co. as authorized guests?

(Why did they even shut down the automated defenses to begin with? What, do they shut them down every time they bring in someone new or any kind of visitor/official? Who designed such a moronic and obvious flaw into the security system?)
 
Specifically, Green Lantern first appeared in All American Comics #16, in July 1940. Triplanetary, the first Lensman novel, was published in 1948. OTOH, the Green Lantern Corps was inspired by both the Golden Age GL ,and the Lensman series, and the Corps was introduced (in a limited fashion) in Showcase #22, in October, 1959, with the Guardians of the Universe (the Arisian/Mentor equivalent) following in July, 1960.
Actually in that wikipedia entry, it says Triplanetary was first published as a serial in Amazing Stories magazine in 1934.
 
So obviously the solution is to use the Geo-Force treatment on the falcons.

Superstrong and tough, gravity manipulating, lava spewing attack falcons for the win!
Didn't that only work on members of one tiny nation's royal family? Like, that was a major plot point in the comic where they debuted the Geo-Force (Markovia's Last Stand!): "[the Geo-Force] can be retained only by blood members of the Markovian royal family!" Direct quote from the ruler of Markovia, there.

The read I got was that the whole thing was some "the land recognizes the blood of kings" shit gussied up in technobabble to keep it from literally being a magical geomantic empowerment ritual. My only other guess is that somebody in the lineage fucked an earth elemental, and the scientist lady accidentally figured out how to magnify a person's elemental heritage (which would still be useful, but could lead to things like "Hey, turns out your ancestors were Nurglite cultists! Have fun with your new Ebola powers!")
 
What, do they shut them down every time they bring in someone new or any kind of visitor/official? Who designed such a moronic and obvious flaw into the security system?
Inspectors would probably be added to the system, and basically no one else would have cause to go there without quite a bit of lead time. It wasn't even two hours between when OL and crew decided to go to the place and them arriving. I suppose turning the defenses off and ignoring the alarms is faster than going through the bureaucracy to add another person, especially when orders come from high above that these people have to be accommodated.
 
Didn't that only work on members of one tiny nation's royal family? Like, that was a major plot point in the comic where they debuted the Geo-Force (Markovia's Last Stand!): "[the Geo-Force] can be retained only by blood members of the Markovian royal family!" Direct quote from the ruler of Markovia, there.

The read I got was that the whole thing was some "the land recognizes the blood of kings" shit gussied up in technobabble to keep it from literally being a magical geomantic empowerment ritual. My only other guess is that somebody in the lineage fucked an earth elemental, and the scientist lady accidentally figured out how to magnify a person's elemental heritage (which would still be useful, but could lead to things like "Hey, turns out your ancestors were Nurglite cultists! Have fun with your new Ebola powers!")

My memory, which admittedly can be fuzzy, considering that whole storyline was in the early 80s, is that it was an artificial limit put in as a safeguard- She made that device to give Brion Markov powers, other people need not apply.

To someone with the entire New God database and/or access to the entire Oan catalog of science, that would seem like an easy limit to remove.

If Phantasmo is anything to go by, partially earth elemental humans gain the ability to phase through matter, a power that is not in Brion's thematically linked grab bag powers.

Regardless, having the genes of someone related to the Markov family is hardly a problem, since 2 out of 3 of Terra 2's origin is her not being related to Brion but being given Terra 1's genes.

For those not familiar with the Terras- Terra 1 was Brion's illegitimate half sister, she was either crazy, evil, drugged or a combination thereof, and died.

Terra 2 was either Terra 1 resurrected from the dead, a random girl abducted and given Terra's genes and powers, or a subterrestrial Stratan who volunteered to have her DNA change her species so that she can be a Terra 1 doppelganger who had issues because she had at least two sets of false memories in her brain.

Note- Stratans have an interesting origin. A giant in a spacesuit crashed landed on Earth, killing it (or already dead), buried by time and its landing, the technology in its suit prevented his body from decaying in normal fashion, instead its life support system caused the giant's body to evolve into a self contained ecosystem, and eventually an underground city (Strata) comprised of multiple intelligent species.

The Astronaut God's blood has mutative properties, giving both Terra 2 and Terra 3 their geokinetic powers (Terra 3 being a stratan who was mutated by the blood, then remade into a human to go superhero on the surface, they however never made her look like Terra or make her believe she was Terra) it also gave a human the ability to turn into minerals similar to the Absorbing Man, and his girlfriend a crystaline form that unfortunately for her shattered.

If Zoat was using the New Gods are giants thing from the comics, I'd suggest that the Astronaut God might be a New God with geocentric powers who crash landed on Earth.

However since Zoat hasn't included Terra 1 worrying about Terra 2 and 3 is probably jumping the gun. :)
 
My memory, which admittedly can be fuzzy, considering that whole storyline was in the early 80s, is that it was an artificial limit put in as a safeguard- She made that device to give Brion Markov powers, other people need not apply.
Nope. I've got my DC Showcase of Batman & The Outsiders Vol. 1 in front of me, and as best as can be determined, she had no idea what her invention would even do, she just knew it would work better on Markovs than on anybody else, so she'd risk exploding members of the Markovian royal family in the name of... well, not science. This woman was not doing science. Not even remotely. She was spewing utter bullshit about magical earth resonance and how she can tap the Lifestream or something and that gives people superpowers. I'm fairly sure "Doctor" Jace was operating on Time Cube levels of scientific rigor, and her success can only be attributed to a passing god deciding he'd like to fuck with peoples' expectations that day.
 
Eh, that's a slightly biased way to put it. WoG is that Greg doesn't get the Speed Force and considers it a completely unnecessary complication for the setting but "If you want to believe it's there, but they just don't know about it, more power to you."

So, hey, more power to you, but the best you can say that is that there's no proof that the Speed Force (or the Archery Force or Kryptonian Force) doesn't exist, absent whatever Zoat's added.
True, but unlike the other two, the Speed Force tends to be a pretty major part of the DC Cosmology.
 
Do they not they have slaves for things like this?

Just got caught up on the last few days (Stardew Valley's a hell of a drug) and saw this one.

Paul, you've officially been in Earth 16 too long. You know this is a comic book world run on trope logic; the moment it was mentioned the anti-speedster counter measures had been deactivated you should have known this was coming.
 
Zigzag (part 9)
4th May
21:39:41 GMT +11


:41.4

Super speed attackers protocol. Construct armour begins to manifest around me along with tendrils which in a few relative moments will drop vertigo inducers onto the floor.

Wallace is blurring into motion, fighting… Someone. One of Richard's hands is reaching for a smoke bomb while the other stretches out to arrest his motion. Sergeant Pushkin's armour shudders as the first explosive goes off and at this speed I can see the expansion and compression of the air around the charge. I think that means that it failed to penetrate.

:41.7

The heavy external surface of the hibernation pod cracks and explodes away from where the black blur is standing, small pieces of metal and plastic shrapnel flying outwards in all directions.

Then there's a clear liquid in the air where the blur was standing and the blur is gone, joining in the yellow and white blurs currently making the dull grey painted-concrete walls a little brighter.

:42.0

Another explosive goes off on Sergeant Pushkin, this time on the back of his left knee. To someone unfamiliar with the design of his armour that might look like a vulnerable point, but it's certainly well beyond the capacity of a conventional explosive of that size to pierce. It does manage to make his leg jerk just as the guns on his forearms start to glow in preparation for firing.

:42.2

Doctor Egorov hits the far wall hard enough to cause the concrete immediately under his point of impact to crack and throw out a small cloud of concrete dust. I start sending a filament his way but I very much doubt that it will reach him in time to preserve his life.

:42.5

Sergeant Pushkin is wreathed in explosions as the rest of the charges detonate. I still don't think that those will be enough to actually hurt him through his armour but his sensors will probably take a second or two to adapt to the stimuli.

A cloud of smoke starts radiating outwards from Robin's smoke bomb. He hasn't bothered throwing it, he just set it off as soon as he got hold of it. He's worked out what we're fighting. One of those bombs will briefly fill this room, and this fight will be over before it can disperse. Wallace will have his goggles on, so hopefully it will impede his opponents more than him.

:42.8

The clear liquid strikes the floor and Ms Molotova's pod, whatever it touches steaming into nothingness. Wallace's Essence of Vitriol. Can't tell if it's going to hit her. One of the shapes darting around the room moves in an irregular fashion for a moment. Someone hit them? Can't tell for sure, and whoever it was recovered too quickly for me to identify them.

Sergeant Pushkin fires probably-blind across the room, two waves of purple plasma rapidly expanding outward. Area effect attack, sensible.

Richard jerks in the air, spinning around just before he hits the floor. I think something hit him in the head. Danner should be enough to keep him safe unless they really focus on him.

:43.0

Richard hits the floor, his smoke having spread around enough that the dashing speedsters are making visible air currents. I don't know what effect it's having on them. If they're saying anything it's happening too fast for my ear to make sense of it.

My construct armour is fully formed. A few cracks suddenly appear but like the Flash our assailants aren't able to hit at anything like F=MA. From the specifications the Russians gave me I know that it can take Sergeant Pushkin's shots as well, which is good because his explosion-affected aim means that I'm going to take a good hit from his right arm gun. The filament I'm sending towards Doctor Egorov is about half way across the room. I think I-

:43.1

-can reach him in time.

The white shape pauses just in front of him, right hand vibrating as it strikes out. Doctor Egorov's head bursts, flesh and bone cracking and ripping around the intruding limb as his cranium comes apart. Brains have excellent blood supplies and his is starting to spurt.

:43.2

The white shape is gone, moving back to the pods. Not Miss Molotova's pod, Mister Uminski's. Its hands touch the metal at the head end.

The vertigo inducers appear from subspace and I activate them immediately. White shape staggers visibly, and for a fraction of a second I see him.

:43.3

White body armour, looking unpleasantly like that worn by Truggs' mercenaries last year. Silver lightning bolt covering most of the chest. Flash fan? No, stupid. Given the publicity Mister Garrick's had over the years the lightning bolt is probably the image most strongly associated with super speed, if it wasn't anyway.

:43.6

Sergeant Pushkin corrects his aim at our stalled target and fires a narrow beam directly at them.

:43.9

The White Flash throws themself to the floor, ducking under Sergeant Pushkin's shot which burrows through the concrete wall on the far side of the medical bay.

:44.1

Wallace slams into the wall to my left.

:44.3

The door to the medical bay collapses as the black figure takes advantage of the momentary distraction of the one of us who can actually keep up with him to vibrate a series of holes in the metal. They don't appear to have been affected by my vertigo inducers at all. They're wearing ear plugs while their partner isn't?

:44.6

Wallace and black figure blur into motion once more while White Flash -NO!- shoves their left hand through the metal of Mister Uminski's pod. Their forearm turns red, though I can't tell whether the blood is theirs or his.

:44.8

Richard would survive chlorine gas but I'm not sure that Wallace would. And with the door open I'm not sure I could transmute enough to be disabling anyway.

My eyes glow orange as the smoke becomes too dense to see through conventionally. I try flying towards Mister Gregorovich in the faint hope that I can provide a distraction but I'm too damn slow!

:45.0

Richard rolls as he lands, reaching for a flashbang grenade.

White dashes to Mister Gregorovich's pod while black does something which appears to force Wallace to evade. Black then goes for Miss Molotova's pod.

Energy pulse!

Mental pathway damage limit reached. Acceleration discontinued.

Shit!

There's a gust of wind as Richard completes his roll and throws his flashbang towards the ruined doorway. Too late. Wallace staggers to a halt, his right hand holding his upper left arm as blood seeps through his costume. Outside I hear a series of explosions, then Sergeant Pushkin sprints for the exit.

I take a moment to check Blue Trinity. No, no good. The male members have had their heads shattered in the same fashion as Doctor Egorov while Miss Molotova has been removed, the tubes connecting her to her pod cut through. Orange light surges over Wallace as I repair his arm. It looks like Black Flash threw tiny fragments of metal at him with tremendous force. That done, I transition out to the speed wing's entrance.

"Aaaagh!" / "uuuuuuuUHHHHH."

The soldiers we passed on the way in lie on the ground, either dead or seriously injured. Black charred areas on the walls mark… The explosives. Someone must have reactivated them. But-.

Machine control. Sergeant Pushkin did it. He activated the explosives because stopping our attackers was more important than the lives of the soldiers.

He's just ahead of me in the antechamber, holding the bloody remains of the white attacker in his right arm. Black's… Not here. Must have gotten away. I scan on the off-chance, but I'm not surprised when I find nothing.

The rings glow as I turn my attention to the injured soldiers.
 
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The soldiers we passed on the way in lie on the ground, either dead or seriously injured. Black charred areas on the walls mark… The explosives. Someone must have reactivated them. But-.

Machine control. Sergeant Plushkin did it. He activated the explosives because stopping our attackers was more important than the lives of the soldiers.

Jeez, Sergeant Pushkin. You really know how to end a party.

Brutal, and he actually got one of them, too. Very Russian.
 
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