Jamie Roberts
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The snarkier humans kept mentioning it under their breath when he was around, so he wanted to know what all the fuss was about.
Look at the expression on his face; clearly, he is not impressed.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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The snarkier humans kept mentioning it under their breath when he was around, so he wanted to know what all the fuss was about.
Look at the expression on his face; clearly, he is not impressed.
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- Parts Unknown
Does it count as melting if it is vaporized down to its atoms?
SemiSaneAuthor
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- Sol-3, Memetic Quarantined World - For English
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- They/Them
Well it's still atoms of carbon released into the atmosphere, just because it's vaporized instead of melted, doesn't mean it's not thrown up into the air.
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- Australia
Within a single generation? Yes, that's true. But long-term? We (and our descendants) could still do it. Fossil fuels are somewhat like the dark side; quicker, easier, more seductive. But you can still achieve advanced civilization with only renewables - the catch is that the journey is much, much longer if they're your sole energy sources (and if you don't know any anachronistic super-tech shortcuts like at least a few super-scientists on YJ Earth).
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- Argentina
Ever heard of alternative power sources?
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- Earth
The standard of ordinary humans in DC is pretty high.
Zigzag (part 8)
- Location
- Hampden Park
4th May
21:36 GMT +11
The Major in charge of the facility steps aside with a smile. "This is as far as I have clearance to proceed." He holds out his right hand in the direction of the doors to the laboratory as an older man in a suit comes through. "I will hand you over to Doctor Egorov. If you need anything, let me know."
"Thank you, sir." Sergeant Pushkin turns to Doctor Egorov. "Do I need to present my orders again?"
"No." The doctor shakes his head. "The Director informed me that you might be coming." He turns his attention to the rest of us. "And these are the Americans?"
"Actually, I'm Themysciran."
"Ah. I stand corrected." He steps forward and looks Wallace over. "And you are Kid Flash."
"Yeah, that's me. Do you know if you've got Blue Trinity in there, or is there someone else we need to talk to?"
Doctor Egorov turns around and beckons us to follow him. "Not out here. Inside."
He pushes his way back through the double doors, Wallace hot on his heels. Robin, Sergeant Pushkin and I follow on behind. Canis opted to stay outside with Brut rather than 'waste his time on more purposeless debate'. Through the doors there's a short corridor which terminates in a heavily fortified door. Doctor Egorov is leaning over an iris scanner mounted on the wall next to it, his access card pressed against the adjacent reader. There's a clunk and the door unlocks and starts to slide open. On the far side is… Another short corridor with another fortified door.
"This way."
We file on through, and I note that there are several cameras mounted at points on the wall. The door we just passed through clanks shut behind us and the lights around us dim slightly.
"Good. Now I may answer your questions. Yes, the surviving members of Blue Trinity are held here."
Richard cocks his head to the side. "Surviving?"
Doctor Egorov nods. "Doctor Krulik was more concerned with getting a functional result as swiftly as possible than with the subject's long term survival. The three you know as Blue Trinity were simply those who lived the longest. Of the rest, their remains were either cremated or they are stored here."
Wallace starts to smile. "Can I talk to them?"
"No." Doctor Egorov shakes his head. "They are kept in a state of… Biological hibernation, for their own safety."
"You mean suspended animation, right?"
"No, not suspended. But slowed down a great deal." There's a loud buzz from a wall-mounted speaker and the inner door clunks open. "You will not be able to speak with them, but you will be given access to all of our records."
"Why are they in hibernation?"
"One of the symptoms they developed was a constant super speed shaking. They became a danger to themselves and to everyone around them. In a state of hibernation, this is not a problem."
He leads us into the inner laboratory. The first things I see are the stationary gun positions and a group of soldiers. Richard frowns. "What's with all the security?"
"All of this was developed from a few notes passed to us by an informant in America in the forties. With what we have here, a person could create their own super speed soldiers. In the Cold War America and Russia did not dare use such weapons on one another, but today there are hundreds of groups around the world who would not hesitate. And once one person does it, everyone else will need to follow suit." He shakes his head. "I have no desire to live in such a world. We do not have the budget for the more extreme anti-metahuman defences, but we have taken fairly comprehensive steps against the threats we can predict."
"All of our cameras are ultra high speed, relaying their images to a high speed computer server with advanced pattern recognition programming. That in turn controls explosive shrapnel charges. I know that people with super speed struggle to fight at full speed." We go around another corner and get our first view of a laboratory. "By timing the detonations, we can corral an attacker into an area and kill them even at high speed. Particularly when the gas is taken into account."
"Wouldn't that kill you too?"
He nods. "Probably. When we found out that the current Flash had the ability to vibrate through solid objects we had the walls reinforced with multiple materials of differing density, with a constant high voltage electric current running through wires contained inside it."
"Yikes."
Doctor Egorov smiles faintly. "It would work, then? That is good, because we were working from very limited information."
"Maybe. I'm not trying it to find out."
"We also have more twists and turns than someone like the Flash could navigate at his maximum speed. Even if it is-" The corridor we're in doubles back on itself. "-a little inconvenient."
Richard taps his arm computer. "What about someone with super strength?"
"That would depend on the degree. At lower levels, we have enough conventional anti-armour weapons to cope. And again, gas has often proven to be effective. They still need to breathe, after all. If all else fails we have a nuclear self-destruct-"
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"-system." We all look shocked. "Oh, there is no need to worry. It is a tactical nuclear device only, and both the American and Chinese governments have been informed of its existence. If we are forced to utilise it, it will not be the start of World War Three."
"That's not really the point."
He smiles in a rather creepy way. "Do you want to go and see it?" I shake my head. "Ah, anyway, we had to shut them all down while you are here. They all have to be automated, because normal Humans can't respond quickly enough and we did not have time to program the computers with your particulars. One last corridor."
Wallace looks around us. "So… What's protecting this place now?"
"A platoon of soldiers and four superheroes." He stops just outside another security door. "How long were you planning to stay?"
"I don't know. I need to see everything you've tried to make Blue Trinity better."
Doctor Egorov frowns. "Why? You had access to the pure form of the Garrick Formula, and I am reliably informed that he himself is in good health."
"I had access to his records, sure. But I tried replicating it with a high school chemistry set when I was thirteen."
"Hah!" Doctor Egorov smiles, slapping Wallace on the back with his right hand. "Young man, you would fit in around here very well!" Wallace doesn't look particularly pleased as the door opens and he leads us into the room.
The three pods containing Blue Trinity are raised off the floor on biers displaying their medical information. Heart beat and respiration very slow, brain activity low. Not even dreaming. Inside the pods they're technically naked, but all the equipment plugged into them does a reasonable job of disguising it. Their heads are shaved to allow better access for the brain monitors, their mouths held open by tubes meant either to make sure that their airways remain unobstructed or feed them, I'm not sure. I can see seven different tubes going into their veins at various points.
The three of us just stand in front of them, staring. Sergeant Pushkin actually gasps. Doctor Egorov nods. "A sad way to treat them, but it is the best we can do for now." He points to a computer terminal at the side of the room. "What you want is over-."
Time slows.
Doctor Egorov flying backwards, his chest compressing past the point where his lungs could be intact.
The floor approaching my face, my environmental shield flaring.
Richard falling backwards, arms trailing out in front.
Sergeant Pushkin starting to crouch as the explosive charges appear all over his armour.
And a vague black shape standing in front of the pod containing Ivana Christina Borodin Molotova, hands thrusting forwards as the machinery flies apart.
21:36 GMT +11
The Major in charge of the facility steps aside with a smile. "This is as far as I have clearance to proceed." He holds out his right hand in the direction of the doors to the laboratory as an older man in a suit comes through. "I will hand you over to Doctor Egorov. If you need anything, let me know."
"Thank you, sir." Sergeant Pushkin turns to Doctor Egorov. "Do I need to present my orders again?"
"No." The doctor shakes his head. "The Director informed me that you might be coming." He turns his attention to the rest of us. "And these are the Americans?"
"Actually, I'm Themysciran."
"Ah. I stand corrected." He steps forward and looks Wallace over. "And you are Kid Flash."
"Yeah, that's me. Do you know if you've got Blue Trinity in there, or is there someone else we need to talk to?"
Doctor Egorov turns around and beckons us to follow him. "Not out here. Inside."
He pushes his way back through the double doors, Wallace hot on his heels. Robin, Sergeant Pushkin and I follow on behind. Canis opted to stay outside with Brut rather than 'waste his time on more purposeless debate'. Through the doors there's a short corridor which terminates in a heavily fortified door. Doctor Egorov is leaning over an iris scanner mounted on the wall next to it, his access card pressed against the adjacent reader. There's a clunk and the door unlocks and starts to slide open. On the far side is… Another short corridor with another fortified door.
"This way."
We file on through, and I note that there are several cameras mounted at points on the wall. The door we just passed through clanks shut behind us and the lights around us dim slightly.
"Good. Now I may answer your questions. Yes, the surviving members of Blue Trinity are held here."
Richard cocks his head to the side. "Surviving?"
Doctor Egorov nods. "Doctor Krulik was more concerned with getting a functional result as swiftly as possible than with the subject's long term survival. The three you know as Blue Trinity were simply those who lived the longest. Of the rest, their remains were either cremated or they are stored here."
Wallace starts to smile. "Can I talk to them?"
"No." Doctor Egorov shakes his head. "They are kept in a state of… Biological hibernation, for their own safety."
"You mean suspended animation, right?"
"No, not suspended. But slowed down a great deal." There's a loud buzz from a wall-mounted speaker and the inner door clunks open. "You will not be able to speak with them, but you will be given access to all of our records."
"Why are they in hibernation?"
"One of the symptoms they developed was a constant super speed shaking. They became a danger to themselves and to everyone around them. In a state of hibernation, this is not a problem."
He leads us into the inner laboratory. The first things I see are the stationary gun positions and a group of soldiers. Richard frowns. "What's with all the security?"
"All of this was developed from a few notes passed to us by an informant in America in the forties. With what we have here, a person could create their own super speed soldiers. In the Cold War America and Russia did not dare use such weapons on one another, but today there are hundreds of groups around the world who would not hesitate. And once one person does it, everyone else will need to follow suit." He shakes his head. "I have no desire to live in such a world. We do not have the budget for the more extreme anti-metahuman defences, but we have taken fairly comprehensive steps against the threats we can predict."
"All of our cameras are ultra high speed, relaying their images to a high speed computer server with advanced pattern recognition programming. That in turn controls explosive shrapnel charges. I know that people with super speed struggle to fight at full speed." We go around another corner and get our first view of a laboratory. "By timing the detonations, we can corral an attacker into an area and kill them even at high speed. Particularly when the gas is taken into account."
"Wouldn't that kill you too?"
He nods. "Probably. When we found out that the current Flash had the ability to vibrate through solid objects we had the walls reinforced with multiple materials of differing density, with a constant high voltage electric current running through wires contained inside it."
"Yikes."
Doctor Egorov smiles faintly. "It would work, then? That is good, because we were working from very limited information."
"Maybe. I'm not trying it to find out."
"We also have more twists and turns than someone like the Flash could navigate at his maximum speed. Even if it is-" The corridor we're in doubles back on itself. "-a little inconvenient."
Richard taps his arm computer. "What about someone with super strength?"
"That would depend on the degree. At lower levels, we have enough conventional anti-armour weapons to cope. And again, gas has often proven to be effective. They still need to breathe, after all. If all else fails we have a nuclear self-destruct-"
!!!
"-system." We all look shocked. "Oh, there is no need to worry. It is a tactical nuclear device only, and both the American and Chinese governments have been informed of its existence. If we are forced to utilise it, it will not be the start of World War Three."
"That's not really the point."
He smiles in a rather creepy way. "Do you want to go and see it?" I shake my head. "Ah, anyway, we had to shut them all down while you are here. They all have to be automated, because normal Humans can't respond quickly enough and we did not have time to program the computers with your particulars. One last corridor."
Wallace looks around us. "So… What's protecting this place now?"
"A platoon of soldiers and four superheroes." He stops just outside another security door. "How long were you planning to stay?"
"I don't know. I need to see everything you've tried to make Blue Trinity better."
Doctor Egorov frowns. "Why? You had access to the pure form of the Garrick Formula, and I am reliably informed that he himself is in good health."
"I had access to his records, sure. But I tried replicating it with a high school chemistry set when I was thirteen."
"Hah!" Doctor Egorov smiles, slapping Wallace on the back with his right hand. "Young man, you would fit in around here very well!" Wallace doesn't look particularly pleased as the door opens and he leads us into the room.
The three pods containing Blue Trinity are raised off the floor on biers displaying their medical information. Heart beat and respiration very slow, brain activity low. Not even dreaming. Inside the pods they're technically naked, but all the equipment plugged into them does a reasonable job of disguising it. Their heads are shaved to allow better access for the brain monitors, their mouths held open by tubes meant either to make sure that their airways remain unobstructed or feed them, I'm not sure. I can see seven different tubes going into their veins at various points.
The three of us just stand in front of them, staring. Sergeant Pushkin actually gasps. Doctor Egorov nods. "A sad way to treat them, but it is the best we can do for now." He points to a computer terminal at the side of the room. "What you want is over-."
Time slows.
Doctor Egorov flying backwards, his chest compressing past the point where his lungs could be intact.
The floor approaching my face, my environmental shield flaring.
Richard falling backwards, arms trailing out in front.
Sergeant Pushkin starting to crouch as the explosive charges appear all over his armour.
And a vague black shape standing in front of the pod containing Ivana Christina Borodin Molotova, hands thrusting forwards as the machinery flies apart.
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Saw that coming
Holy whiplash, Batman! That took a socking swerve to the deadly serious.
Thanatos757
Captain of the Four Knights
Black Flash?
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- texas
You know, that reminds me, while Zoat doesn't seem to be going with it, pre-Crisis, DC showed repeatedly that normal humans from Earth have Kryptonian style powers on some planets that aren't Earth- Mighty Boy, Power Boy, Vicki Grant from Dial H for Hero, Jimmy Olsen as Steelman (although that was a different dimension, not planet).
Makes me wonder what an alternate Paul who say landed somewhere he didn't have a ring but had Superman's powers would be like.
Possibly, but I suspect it's Rival instead. Or what's left of Rival.
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Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Hm, I wonder if this is Savitar. It seems like the sort of thing he'd pull. The Black Flash is more of a psychopomp than an actual actor, and I can't think of anyone else who'd really be interested in mucking with Blue Trinity. I suppose it could be some Soviet Meta I'm not familiar with, but if I don't know the character I don't know the character.
It might be the Rival of course, especially given his name dropping earlier, and the fact that Johnny Sorrow has already appeared in the story, but he's mostly a speed force entity now, so I don't see where screwing with BT would be something he cared about as opposed to targeting Jay directly.
It might be the Rival of course, especially given his name dropping earlier, and the fact that Johnny Sorrow has already appeared in the story, but he's mostly a speed force entity now, so I don't see where screwing with BT would be something he cared about as opposed to targeting Jay directly.
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- Oblivion
I have the odd feeling this defense is going to quickly become common place in Renegades timeline.
I am going to guess we have a lost love story going on here.
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- Just hanging
I know that the Speed Force doesn't exist in Earth-16, but is there any other speedsters that wear black aside from Black Flash?
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- Oblivion
It's not that the Speed Force doesn't exist in Earth-16, it's that nobody knows about it.
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It's a good thing those four superheroes were there!
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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- The Future
Yup, Speedster (mostly likely rival) was just looking for an opening.
Hope OL can save his life fast enough.
Wally isn't mentioned so maybe he reacted fast enough to avoid what just happened?
Whose duty is to escort those with superspeed to death. An act which this base has been preventing.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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- The Else
Yes, but as far as I'm aware, the Black Flash only appears to Speedsters at their death. Generally, he doesn't care if someone's been kept on life support or not, that's not his business. In some incarnations he's an aspect of Death of the Endless, and she certainly isn't going to be going around killing anyone, that's not her purpose.
The base may have been preventing BT from dying, but that just means it is not their time to die, not that the Black Flash is going to make them get on with it.
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- Just hanging
So if the renegade Kid Flash became a New God of speed then paragon Kid Flash will come into contact with the speed force, or something similar, and fix his problem.
in true comic form. Crossover needs to happen
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- texas
- Location
- USA
that is what they get for turning off all their security instead of taking the time and program the computers to recognize the visitors as friendlies
its almost like their security existed for a reason
Is that really name of single person?
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