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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Silverias said:
I think this is mostly just going to result in OL locking his subspace.

Grayven, however, will likely not do so, and find out about this little error in a much more dangerous situation.
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thats pretty much my read on the ENTIRE renegade playthrough. or at least, im guessing/hoping that'll be the final punchline, by the time the Credits roll. so far, we've mostly seen the Different Choices that PAID OFF. there's still one ABYSS of a lotta balls in the air, and i Doubt Even BAHAMUT knows where they'll all come down...
*grumbles* at least, i can confirm that Paragade has sub-par results >.> t'was on Insanity. if i EVER have to Peel another Potato again....
the punishment was COMPLETELY disproportionate! i put the cow back together, didnt i?
 
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Silverias said:
Really? You're gonna steal from an orange lantern? Do you KNOW how bad that can go?
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random_npc said:
well good for them it wasn't in the pocket. I don't imagine the ophidan would have been very understanding. Proably something along the lines of "I have ended worlds for lesser offenses." and that would have just made the whole thing terribly awkward.
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Time to start booby trapping your subspace storage, OL.

Next time:

"Hah, He doesnt even bother locking his storage. Time to steal some- OH GOD MY ARM." And out comes a comically oversized bear trap.
 
Silverias said:
Grayven, however, will likely not do so, and find out about this little error in a much more dangerous situation.
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Grayven doesn't even have a Guardian ring. He has an orange ring of unknown origin and a yellow ring of Qwardian origin. Whereas the SI has an orange ring of unknown origin and an orange ring of bobblehead malware origin.

Does his original orange ring also lack any significant security on its subspace pocket, @Mr Zoat, or is the SI a victim of his own success?
 
Yog said:
I am surprised Paul isn't reacting more. He has priceless historical artifacts and weapons of mass destruction in his subspace storage.
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He doesn't carry the worst around with him, because magical artifacts take up too much 'space.' He's just generally been more careful about that since he became enlightened, probably because of the huge mess he left behind during his time possessed. I agree with the idea that this is setting up for a one two punch to the Renegade path.
 
I have to admit Paul's lack of reaction is really bothering me. Considering the contents of his storage that should have been considered a breach of whatever truce they apparently have going on.

Does he still keep the sword of the first(?) in there?
 
Yog said:
I am surprised Paul isn't reacting more. He has priceless historical artifacts and weapons of mass destruction in his subspace storage.
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Very much this. Aside from the sheer anathema that should be stealing the entirety of an Orange Lantern's personal storage, gear, possessions, tools, priceless and unique artifacts, and more, OL has WMDs, god-killing swords, confidential notes, and more in there. Under different circumstances, he could have had his goddamn Lantern in there, too, potentially with a motherfucking Entity, too.

I'm very surprised he didn't lose his shit there. You do not steal from an Orange Lantern unless you are prepared to face their wrath.

Plus, you know, truce zone. Those two just violated that hardcore. They tried to steal his Lantern, for fuck's sake.
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
Very much this. Aside from the sheer anathema that should be stealing the entirety of an Orange Lantern's personal storage, gear, possessions, tools, priceless and unique artifacts, and more, OL has WMDs, god-killing swords, confidential notes, and more in there. Under different circumstances, he could have had his goddamn Lantern in there, too, potentially with a motherfucking Entity, too.

I'm very surprised he didn't lose his shit there. You do not steal from an Orange Lantern unless you are prepared to face their wrath.

Plus, you know, truce zone. Those two just violated that hardcore. They tried to steal his Lantern, for fuck's sake.
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Again, he doesn't actually carry that all around with him anymore, and the truce zone was always one-sided. Or did you miss the possumification?
 
Well, OL will be checking the warehouse, and if anything's missing, I expect bigger reaction.

I'll be honest, if they genuinely stole something from him and tried to get away with it, I'll...actually be genuinely bothered with the story if he doesn't react appropriately.
 
I've got to agree with all the people who are surprised by how chill OL is about nearly everything he has being stolen at once.

I mean geez, if that had been my SI, she would have responded violently. Intensely violently. Outlander would have interpreted a theft of that kind as an immediate threat on her life and she would have used as much force as was possible to end that threat.

These two dolts just gambled that a Greed Lantern would be less protective of their stuff than a third of the people who've responded to this update. And what do they gain here? Nothing that would be worth the potential retaliation, I'm sure.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Plus, you know, truce zone. Those two just violated that hardcore. They tried to steal his Lantern, for fuck's sake.
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Jamie Roberts said:
These two dolts just gambled that a Greed Lantern would be less protective of their stuff than a third of the people who've responded to this update. And what do they gain here? Nothing that would be worth the potential retaliation, I'm sure.
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Essentially this. It looks like Sivana's plan to make them "more resourceful" created a pair of people who compulsively fuck with everyone they encounter and dare the universe to retaliate. It's the kind of attitude that only works as long as everyone they meet is either weaker than them or willing to tolerate their bullshit, and it doesn't make for engaging characters without other traits to balance out the ceaseless fuckery.

I'm not sure we've had a more pure expression of "supervillain stupid" than these chucklefucks, and I'll be happy to see them get ripped to pieces in Belle Reve after they inevitably start messing with OL's interests in ways he can't ignore. I literally cannot see them having any COD other than "hoist by their own petard".
 
Well, that's one stiff upper lip. Though, I'm finding it hard to believe that the mad scientist supervillains found nothing of worth in OL's subspace pocket. I mean, the samples of orichalcum and thorium for one thing ought to be something new and shiny, plus his stock of spell wards and other magical stuff.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"My second thesis is nearly ready for submission."

Thaddeus grins, his posture becoming slightly more upright. "Two."

Georgia smiles confidently. "Three."
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That is not really something to be proud of. Usually, no one cares about your thesis in academia and only three people will even read it: Yourself, your advisor and your opponent. If anything they should brag about their number of published articles, because having multiple doctorates is just a waste of time. See e.g. this post on stack exchange. Relevant excerpt:

Of course, Charles Xavier and Martha Masters are fictional characters. Moreover I imagine they were written by people who are not so familiar with PhD programs. In real life, having PhDs in Genetics, Biophysics, Psychology and Anthropology is not the hallmark of a super-genius: rather it would mean that the person is pathologically obsessed with graduate study. PhD's are not merit badges -- more of them is not better. Rather a PhD is the necessary and grueling training for a specific type of professional career.
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charysa said:
Well, that's one stiff upper lip. Though, I'm finding it hard to believe that the mad scientist supervillains found nothing of worth in OL's subspace pocket. I mean, the samples of orichalcum and thorium for one thing ought to be something new and shiny, plus his stock of spell wards and other magical stuff.
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He's actively sharing most of that stuff. I mean, it's a scary moment, but the spell wards are mass produced, he's working out how to get the Orichalcum and Thorium mass produced, and so on. He no longer carries irreplaceable unique magical things on himself all the time, because they take too much energy, and he had a bad pack-rat experience after he unpossessed himself of the Orange Entity.

Like, it's a big deal, but it's a big deal in a "Good God that could have been bad" sense. He knew he was taking a big risk coming here, and he did go yellow when he discovered what happened, but throwing a fit wouldn't accomplish anything but burn the good will he's been trying to build up. And now he knows about the problem, and can protect himself from it in the future.

The over the top snap-back and hit reactions belong to the Renegade timeline. That is in fact literally what it's based on, the timeline where he hit the renegade interrupt button.
 
Maping said:
What's a sound induction wand?
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A wand. Which induces sound.
*our
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Thank you, corrected.
Sceptic said:
Does his original orange ring also lack any significant security on its subspace pocket, @Mr Zoat, or is the SI a victim of his own success?
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He's a victim of not getting basic training.
Bgbg said:
That is not really something to be proud of. Usually, no one cares about your thesis in academia and only three people will even read it: Yourself, your advisor and your opponent. If anything they should brag about their number of published articles, because having multiple doctorates is just a waste of time.
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Most places won't publish articles from known supervillains. And the Sivanas didn't exactly grow up in a normal home environment.
 
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shepsquared said:
So this is DC aping Marvel Zombies right?
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Actually that universe showed up in 1969, so way before marvel apes or zombies.

If memory serves though, Marvel comics already aped marvel zombies by having Ash (as in this is my boomstick Ash) escape a marvel zombies world only to discover that in the new world he's in it's marvel werewolves chowing down on Galactus.

The closest DC has come to aping Marvel Zombies would probably the Blood League, the universe in which the Justice League became vampires and tried to eat their way across the multiverse. They attacked the universe of Superdemon and his league of shadows (including such people as Swamp Thing, Hellblazer, Klarion, and Deadman if memory serves), until the local Zatanna used her magic to switch their bloodlust with a coffee addiction.

Probably a take that against marvel zombies, perhaps they weren't amused that the zombie Sentry that started the whole thing was obviously supposed to be a zombie Superman with the minimum done to avoid getting sued.

Mental note- Paul should totally take on that project with Zatanna and open up a coffee chain, what could be better than repeat costumers for all eternity? :)

Prince Charon said:
Yeah, but fanfiction (and With This Ring in particular) often makes more sense that a lot of stuff that came out of the Silver Age. From a certain point of view, it needs to, though not always.
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Werewolf world is pre-crisis, Batman serial killer utopia showed up in 2008.

While Earth-51 is hardly silly, it's still amazingly simplistic even for a comic book.


Sceptic said:
Grayven doesn't even have a Guardian ring. He has an orange ring of unknown origin and a yellow ring of Qwardian origin. Whereas the SI has an orange ring of unknown origin and an orange ring of bobblehead malware origin.
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Considering that Larfleeze found the orange battery on Okaara with a map that was Krona's, the guy who kept the emotional entities as his pets and invented the power gauntlet which was the basis for the green lantern rings, Krona is the obvious suspect as to who built the orange rings.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
Most places won't publish articles from known supervillains. And the Sivanas didn't exactly grow up in a normal home environment.
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Why would whether they are or are not a supervillain have any bearing on the validity or lack thereof inherent in the science?
Denying the science because you dislike the person is some literal Nazi bullshit.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Most places won't publish articles from known supervillains.
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"Check out my new study published in this month's Abominations of Science! I finally managed to round up those orphans I needed for a Control Group."

"You actually used a control group? That's unusual for a supervillain."

"Mind control."

"Ah."


stsword said:
If memory serves though, Marvel comics already aped marvel zombies by having Ash (as in this is my boomstick Ash) escape a marvel zombies world only to discover that in the new world he's in it's marvel werewolves chowing down on Galactus.
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Jamie Roberts said:
I've got to agree with all the people who are surprised by how chill OL is about nearly everything he has being stolen at once.

I mean geez, if that had been my SI, she would have responded violently. Intensely violently. Outlander would have interpreted a theft of that kind as an immediate threat on her life and she would have used as much force as was possible to end that threat.

These two dolts just gambled that a Greed Lantern would be less protective of their stuff than a third of the people who've responded to this update. And what do they gain here? Nothing that would be worth the potential retaliation, I'm sure.
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i have to agree. from a viewpoint STRICTLY involving the sheer DAMAGE some of those items can do, id say that a VIOLENT, or at least extremely aggressive, response would be JUSTIFIED, or at least understandable >.>
 
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