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judging by the artwork, I'd say that's from the golden or silver age. They came up with a lot of really weird ideas back then.
*looks him up*

The character first appeared in 1967, so Silver Age. The writers may have been on drugs, though that is more likely with 1970s comics.

You know, the more I see Grayven with that yellow ring, the more I think "Man, Batman would have made a fantastic Yellow Lantern in the main DC cosmos".
He did get a yellow ring in canon at least once. He rejected it.
 
That's a damn shame. He could have single-handedly redeemed the entire corps if the writers knew what they were doing.

...And now I want to see a fic about Batman as a Yellow Lantern doing an actually damn good job of what they were supposed to do.

As a green lantern, Bruce Wayne recruited a Clark Kent from Kansas, Princess Diana from Themescyria, and a Barry Allen of Central City.

I figure that resulted in Earth being in a pretty damn safe sector of space.
 
I like that he actually wears armor
Although I think that armor, at least functional armor, is counterproductive for a yellow Lantern. If you think that anything that might gets through your constructs could kill you, you would be more afraid of the things trying to kill you, and your constructs would be stronger.

Yellow rings actually make for some fascinating dynamics, and I hope some are explored more with Grayven.
 
You know, I would not be surprised if either Paul or Grayven actually convinces Batman to wear a yellow ring. I would also be be equally unsurprised if he still rejected it.

...Still, though, I get the feeling that the Sinestro Corps would have had a very different fate if Batman had been a part of it.
 
Although I think that armor, at least functional armor, is counterproductive for a yellow Lantern. If you think that anything that might gets through your constructs could kill you, you would be more afraid of the things trying to kill you, and your constructs would be stronger.
1. Getting through a construct would diminish the attack enough that it might be survivable
2. there is some really really good alientech armor out there
3. power rings can run out of charge. so armor helps as a backup for when it does.
4. you need to see the attack coming to set up a construct
5. some attacks are explicitly and specifically able to bypass power ring's power. Armor defends against such attacks
6. yellow rings are mostly powered by other's fear of the wielder, rather than the wielder's fear of others
 
4. you need to see the attack coming to set up a construct
Unless you're an idiot (comic Lanterns) construct armor is up full time in combat. Out of combat, sure, but a stronger construct is usually better than armor.

Also, stronger constructs also means that attacks are stronger as well.
5. some attacks are explicitly and specifically able to bypass power ring's power. Armor defends against such attacks
6. yellow rings are mostly powered by other's fear of the wielder, rather than the wielder's fear of others
True.
 
Unless you're an idiot (comic Lanterns) construct armor is up full time in combat. Out of combat, sure, but a stronger construct is usually better than armor.
Good point about them for some reason not keeping their construct armor on at all time. I really don't understand why they do that.

I was also thinking more along the lines of erecting a construct barrier to stop an oncoming attack before it even hits the construct armor. requiring the attack to penetrate both. and the wall is massively thicker than the armor from the instances I have seen. Not sure what is up with that.
 
Good point about them for some reason not keeping their construct armor on at all time. I really don't understand why they do that.
I recently read through all of the Tales of the Corps comics, and after reading this story I basically just needed to turn my brain off for it to be enjoyable. There were instances of Lanterns with fully functioning rings punching each other as their attack. Punching isnt a viable combat attack HERE, in the real world, where we don't have power rings that can, as was mentioned, stitch planets back together.

Actually, I just really hate when any sci-fi story makes melee weapons more prominent than ranged weapons. Being able to attack from a large range is just such a stupidly huge advantage over any melee weapon that no one should use them. (Yes, that includes Star Wars) Using a power ring to make a melee weapon is beyond insane.
 
Actually, I just really hate when any sci-fi story makes melee weapons more prominent than ranged weapons. Being able to attack from a large range is just such a stupidly huge advantage over any melee weapon that no one should use them. (Yes, that includes Star Wars) Using a power ring to make a melee weapon is beyond insane.
Melee weapons can carry their own power sources, but projectiles have to have all of the energy they need to cause damage imparted to them upon firing. (Rocket weapons are, in effect, ranged melee weapons instead of projectile weapons.) With real-world physics, this means that melee weapons are for the most part limited to muscle power while ranged attacks get high-density chemical propellants. As a result, melee weapons deal less damage and move way more slowly.

In Star Wars, though, lightsabers have an unobtanium power source that can deal so much more damage than blaster bolts that it's nearly overkill. Against an undefended or lightly-defended target, sure, the blaster is going to be the right choice of weapon, but when armor comes into the picture, a lightsaber starts looking like a meaningful choice if you can engineer the encounter to allow you to employ it. (On the other hand, it's foolish for Jedi to eschew sidearms -- just because they're so devastating IF they hit with their lightsaber doesn't mean that there's not valid uses for a blaster...)

Star Wars also has defenses versus ranged attacks being fairly commonplace -- ships and droids have deflectors; Jedi have blaster parry. Defenses versus melee attacks are mostly limited to armor, and the melee weapon in question is specifically designed to overcome armor as mentioned above. This same exception applies to Dune ("the slow blade penetrates the shield"). This is a large part of what allows a Jedi to GET into the aforementioned encounter.

So really, the best weapon in Star Wars OUGHT to be a rocket-propelled lightsaber. Ridiculously expensive, but you can be sure that whatever you hit with it is going to end up with a hole in it.

EDIT: And in some very specific circumstances, melee weapons being better than ranged can actually apply in the real world, too: breaching charges can pack more energy in melee range than any reasonable projectile you might employ for the task.
 
Even on the scale of new god tech something like that makes sense as a first line of defense, ie a powerful force filed with a short battery life that only activates against attacks that might be dangerous to its wielder. If its only the first layer of defense making it slightly easier to bypass for more endurance and performance might make sense. Its not like its wielder isn't wearing armor on top of her natural resilience.
There's also the fact that it's Apokaliptian - the designer may have made it relatively ineffective against anything the user should just fucking dodge.
 
There's also the fact that it's Apokaliptian - the designer may have made it relatively ineffective against anything the user should just fucking dodge.
Thing is, Apokolips being as it is there's no way Barda doesn't maintain her own weapon. And given her former position, I'd be very surprised if someone hasn't tried to kill her with an arrow or similar weapon at some point.
 
There's also the fact that it's Apokaliptian - the designer may have made it relatively ineffective against anything the user should just fucking dodge.
Medical research suggests this may actually be a valid strategy: The use of football helmets correlates with an increase of concussive injuries, and the introduction of seatbelts correlated with an increase in automobile accidents (even though passenger injuries were reduced).

Basically, at least for humans, the perception of safety results in an increase in risky behaviors that can result in injury. Training to defend yourself by avoiding taking the hit is better than thinking you can let your armor protect you. Then when you DO wear armor, it acts as a defensive force multiplier but doesn't leave you with any new weak points. (Obviously, assuming that you do train to move in the armor so that it doesn't weigh you down.)

As Mr. Miyagi says: "Best block, no be there."
 
Huh. Guess the Great Ten and affiliates don't mind working with the Light.

Or still don't; can't recall if they were complicit in the New Year's Eve attack in the Renegade-verse, or mostly duped.

On some things, at least...

...well, if this isn't just Celestial Archer tagging along with Grayven on a mission of global significance.

The great ten and China have a much better working relationship with Grayven, seeing as he hand delivered most of the culprits of Roanoke to them so they could execute them. With Klarion being the only loose end. I doubt China has any qualms or regrets about Grayven Killing Klarion.


The Chinese goverment probably sees the current Grayven/JL feud as nothing more than some 'foolish western world pissing contest/silliness'.
 
Against an undefended or lightly-defended target, sure, the blaster is going to be the right choice of weapon, but when armor comes into the picture, a lightsaber starts looking like a meaningful choice if you can engineer the encounter to allow you to employ it.
Problem is, how many times were lightsabers actually used against heavily armored targets as opposed to regular ground troops? Not much. Maybe a few tanks and doors, but for the large part Jedi in the movies act as elite ground troops that fight against infantry, or stealth insertion troops. Giving them a sniper rifle would probably give them more kills if they can be given the range, and if they need to be on the front lines/behind the lines a shield made from hull material plus a strong pistol blaster would be better. While lightsaber deflection is nice in that it can reflect blaster bolts back, it leaves them vulnerable to mass fire, as seen in episode 3 with order 66. A shield is a much better defense, and leaves the Jedi much more attention space to focus on shooting.

Side note: if Star Wars actually followed logic, killing a Jedi with blasters is actually really easy if you can prepare. The super battle droids had a weapon called a triblaster, which fired 3 simultaneous shots in a triangle. By all rights this should be impossible for a Jedi armed with a near 1 dimensional defense to block fully.

Part of the problem is that it takes extremely exacting circumstances for lightsabers to be useful at all. Jedi need to have both super speed, and a very precise form of precog that only gives them enough time to move the blade but not move out of the way. Enhanced stamina is the only way they can actually use a lightsaber as their sole weapon, because otherwise they would tire out too fast. Against other force users, some form of plot contrivance is needed so that the fight isn't solely telekinesis.

All of this, years of training, custom made weapons, can occasionally outcompeted some dude that picks up a gun and can aim, something that needs vastly less training.
Star Wars also has defenses versus ranged attacks being fairly commonplace -- ships and droids have deflectors; Jedi have blaster parry.
Aside from droidekas, I don't remember any type of deflectors for infantry, and I don't think lightsabers could get through the droideka shields either. And as mentioned above, lightsabers aren't even a great defense if the enemy actually is aware of how lightsabers work, and their limitations.
Defenses versus melee attacks are mostly limited to armor, and the melee weapon in question is specifically designed to overcome armor as mentioned above.
If the need is to get through a reinforced door, then yes a lightsaber is a decent method. For taking out heavy machinery like tanks or AA guns, grenades and various explosives are much better, partially because they can be deployed at range. But then a lightsaber is merely a tool, not a good weapon.
So really, the best weapon in Star Wars OUGHT to be a rocket-propelled lightsaber. Ridiculously expensive, but you can be sure that whatever you hit
Lightsabers encounter resistance, as seen in one of the prequels where they go through a door, so angled armor almost completely negates that.

To summarize and put back more on topic, I'm not saying that melee weapons are always inferior to ranged weapons and have no place in any setting above a certain tech level. They have their uses, even in WTR. If you need something that doesn't run out of charge or bullets, a sword is good. OL used x-ionised swords against Sabbac because they're good at piercing defenses, the sword of the fallen can kill anything it can hit, Grayven has a sword because it can apply exotic effects, and Nth metal weapons are great against energy barriers. This all makes sense. But for the vast majority of cases, a simple gun is going to be a better choice. Melee weapons should be fringe case tools, stuff brought out to counter something specific, not a general use weapon that is used as someone's sole source of damage dealing. Grayven saw far more trouble from massed gunfire than from some guys with maces that he could simply fly away from.
 
Why would they even think that? The team has no official standing and Grayven has been painfully polite about the League in public.
Celestial Archer talking about someone who is no longer allied with the League or Team? I think I remember when CA arrived he wouldn't give confidential info about anyone in the League or Team, but Grayven is not part of either.
 
Wait so the Starro tech is self replicating now?
Starros are living beings. Either this was a Starro and not the tech that escaped, or it reverted.

Zoat levt SpaceBattles after getting an infraction that triggered a cumulative infraction for saying something about Star Wars: The Force Awakens, when it was forbidden to do so anywhere but one forum due to spreading spoilers. Except, what he talked about was something either in the Movie Previews, or the Movie Poster, and so was known before the movie was ever released, and not something the studio considered secret. But the Mods stuck by their ruling, so he left.

I did not see the unaltered pic. If there was nipples, he is probably joking. It it was PG style "blank mound of flesh" or "Fur covered boobs" he maybe he should be serious.
 
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